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Dating thread 77

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neiljames77 · 20/07/2014 03:26

Just got in from my holiday and saw that 76 was full. Smile

OP posts:
BeforeAndAfter · 03/08/2014 09:56

Don't I'd get rid of the 'very much' but otherwise it's good to go.

dontcallmehon22 · 03/08/2014 10:01

Oh bless him. He sent back 'I wish you wouldn't think. All the best to you, dont xx'

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Why am I such a cold hearted bitch who never has feelings for anyone?

BeforeAndAfter · 03/08/2014 10:13

Good for you Don't - you're not a cold hearted bitch. You have standards and won't settle just for the sake of having a man in your life which a lot of women do. They grab the first man that looks twice at them and then become increasingly miserable as they cling on for dear life with their self-esteem ebbing away.

You're making sure that when the right one shows up you're not embroiled in a bad relationship and you're ready to make a go of things.

dontcallmehon22 · 03/08/2014 10:27

Thanks Before. I think coming out of a marriage made me determined to choose carefully next time. Also, after the very strong feelings I had for Geeky, I can't accept anything substandard. The might not be the same feelings, but they need to be equally strong. I'd rather be single forever than with a man I don't really want to be with.

mariposaazul · 03/08/2014 10:40

I think if he can send that response so quickly Don't he is not as heartbroken as we anticipated & has hopefully learnt something about coming on too keen too quickly...yr not a notch - he's just not for you :)

mariposaazul · 03/08/2014 10:42

Bitch not notch - b*** kindle autocorrect :)

dontcallmehon22 · 03/08/2014 10:46

Yes, I'm glad I sent it. He seems a nice guy. I do have issues with finding nice guys attractive though. They have to have a dash of arrogant bastard.

FolkGirl · 03/08/2014 10:55

I think numbness has gone.

We had a lengthy email exchange the other morning. He clarified some of the things he had said. The bottom line, though, was that the message wasn't much different. But not quite as bad. He said he didn't want to talk on email. That he still loved me. That he still wanted a future with me. Stuff and blah... Would I still go over for the weekend. I spoke with my friends. They were fine and said I ought to go and sort it out.

On Friday night I had a lovely night away with 'the girls'. He went out with some of his colleagues after work.

He texted me yesterday morning to ask if I still wanted to go away for the night and that he did. I said I would and that I'd grab some stuff.

Then he texted again about half an hour later that I should probably leave it and go over Sunday (today) instead. I asked if he was sure, he said, yes, he had something he wanted to do and insisted.

I said I didn't want to do the journey twice in one day, and he said in that case, I could go over later last night and I agreed.

So I got there about 10. It was rather awkward. I asked how his day had been. He said he went into town and met 'a friend' in a nice pub for a drink. Then they spent the afternoon in the park. Then they went out for dinner. I asked if it was someone from work. He said yes, but didn't elaborate. I didn't ask.

He kept his phone with him all evening and kept checking it - he's never done that before. He barely spoke to me last night. Slept on the sofa that's in his bedroom rather than getting into bed with me. He didn't speak to me, kiss me, or touch me, or hug me, even look at me!... Nothing.

THis morning, he again said nothing to me, went to the bathroom and took his phone with him.

I got dressed and when he came back in I just stood up and told him I was going home. He shrugged. I picked up my bags and said "bye". He said nothing.

By the time I got home, I'd had a text and an email from him telling me not to contact him and that he wouldn't read or reply. Hmm

Bottom line is. He either went on a date (wtih someone from work) yesterday, or he wanted to make me think that he went on a date (wtih someone from work) yesterday.

Either way, I can't be doing with that.

I've blocked him. It's over.

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dontcallmehon22 · 03/08/2014 10:57

Oh no folk I can't believe it. I'm so angry on your behalf. I'm so so sorry.

FolkGirl · 03/08/2014 11:02

Bant I read your message last night whilst lying in bed trying not to cry and failing miserably

It was so lovely to read what you said about your date. I really hope it works out for you. Good luck x

Hissy · 03/08/2014 11:02

Wow, I actually feel sick. I am Shock

Got this just now:

Hi. MyName I am sorry but I won't be able to meet you tonight. Not tonight and not ever. I don't know what was wrong with me last night or quite what I was thinking.
I just don't know where my head is at sometimes. Let's just leave it there. Please don't contact me or try to ring me as I won't respond. I don't have any other reason other than I just don't want to. You will be fine.

Blocked me on phone, WhatsApp. That's it.

What, I say, what the actual fuck?

I feel sick. Sick sick. He seemed such a lovely guy, really interesting, attractive and fun. I was myself with him.
I was really disappointed when date 1 didn't go as i'd hoped, but felt that it was the location that screwed it up, so I wanted him and me to have another shot, given our rapport.

Ho hum.

Better cancel the sitter.

mariposaazul · 03/08/2014 11:07

Folk he behaved horribly! How mean of him....That man doesn't understand what love is - how could he be so unkind to you....and cowardly... :(
I once drove all the way to Brum (130 miles!) to meet a man who was too cowardly to stop me....and then didn't answer his phone when I got there...

dontcallmehon22 · 03/08/2014 11:08

WTF, Hissy?

What the hell is wrong with these men? So sorry.

lottieandmia · 03/08/2014 11:17

Oh Hissy how horrible for you, I'm so sorry :( I hope you're ok xxx

FolkGirl · 03/08/2014 11:17

Hissy That's awful Sad

I probably over stated the didn't talk to me. I mean he said, hello. And he offered me wine and then a top up. And asked me if I wanted to watch a film. Then this morning he asked if I slept well... but no more.

But there was no tenderness there, no softness in his eyes. There was no love. He didn't smile once.

I desperately wanted to post on here from bed last night, but I couldn't remember my password to login on my phone.

I just don't understand why asked me to go over. I don't understand why he just ignored me when I was there. I don't understand why he was so blatant about what he'd done yesterday...

In his email this morning, he told me I'd had the opportunity to talk to him last night and I hadn't taken it. What? I was suppposed to start a conversation with him about our future after he'd just described the date he'd been on! I don't think so.

Just feel like all the things I thought about myself are true. The women at it work are, almost exclusively (largely due to age and nationality) his type.

lottieandmia · 03/08/2014 11:18

By the way, I don't think we should be the ones to do the driving if we're meeting up with someone.

minmooch · 03/08/2014 11:24

Oh Hissy what a horrible text. Was that MrRockGod? Seriously, what is it with these men?

Folk What a mean and cowardly thing for him to do. The least you deserved was an actual grown up discussion not this childish, selfish behaviour. You are well rid.

BeforeAndAfter · 03/08/2014 11:25

Folk that was very cruel of him. I am so so sorry for how this relationship ended and non-plussed with his mixed messages. It's as though he didn't like you being in control on Friday so he had to switch the power-play just so that he could be the one in control of ending the relationship. What a pointless and wicked thing to do to you.

AndCatMakesThree · 03/08/2014 11:27

I've got my first date for 2 years later today, but after reading the posts from Folk and Hissy I feel like giving up before I've even started.

Folk, I'm so sorry. I can hardly believe what I'm reading. He seemed so great ... and now this total turn-around. I simply cannot fathom what would make him behave like that. I'm so angry on your behalf.

Hissy, I was already angry after reading the post from Folk, and got even angrier after reading yours. What on earth is wrong with these men? You must be so shocked to have got a text like that.

Both of you, please look after yourselves today. I know it's a cliche, but in these cases it's totally clear that it's not you, it's them. I'll be thinking of you both today.

Hissy · 03/08/2014 11:29

Thanks. I feel just a little bit shit, and quite a lot confused.

Looks like cold feet to me, but Wtf. Doesn't matter now.

I shall stick to the original plan, and go and see MrKeenTexter. Ok I sorta asked him out, but he's made the effort to call, chats lots, great family, (which given lack of mine is important)

One thing that is bugging me about RockGod is that when I contacted him again after a week, and we spoke, he apologised for a ranty email.

But I never got one. I did have the impression he confused me with someone else. Perhaps he has form for this?

FolkGirl · 03/08/2014 11:34

Since my marriage ended, and all the other shit happened, 18-26 months ago, I've lived with that sense of hope. That maybe things would get better. Maybe I could be loved. Maybe there was someone out there for me...

I just feel like hope has fluttered its wings and, after a faltering start, has also left the shadows of the box.

I always believed this wouldn't be forever, but this hasn't ended for any reason other than I'm not good enough. And there was a point over the past few months when I really started to believe I might be... Sad

Minime85 · 03/08/2014 11:35

Oh my god folk I'm so sorry. I can't believe how he has behaved. That's all about boosting his ego and trying to make u feel bad. That's so cruel. Oh I'm so sorry and hope you are doing ok this morning.

Hissy that's also not a very nice message you had either. What is happening this weekend? Confused

lottieandmia · 03/08/2014 11:36

Oh Hissy, it does sound like there is more going on in that man's life than you knew.

Hissy · 03/08/2014 11:42

Andthecat thanks love! That helps

On paper it was all wrong, I was worried about a lot of the makeup of him and me as an item, there were lots of flags, but I couldn't see the colour. The fact I felt what I felt was a worry to me, but I wanted to see him again on his turf to see him for who he was.

I know i'm a good person, I didn't want to write someone off so soon, not when I felt the rapport, the ability to natter and chat through all sorts of subjects.

I thought I had read him, I thought then i'd read him wrong, if not for the rapport i'd nt have bothered. But I did like him, he is attractive, and I did want him in my life because he's one of those people (I thought) that make a real difference.

If he'd have said not now or whatever, if it was a change of heart, if he was scared of getting hurt, then a pause now would be fine, i'm going away for a couple of weeks anyway. Now however we can't ever get back from what's done now. No matter what he'd say, i'd struggle to trust him again.

Whatever it is that's caused it, i'm worth more than that, anyone would be.

Don't give up And, it's a bit of a numbers game, and you need them numbers to toughen up your hide, it gets easier.

Just don't expect too much until you've been out with them a few times.

Try not to take it personally.

louby44 · 03/08/2014 11:42

hissy and folk these men are just pitiful! They don't deserve women like you.

Be gentle with yourselves today and do something nice for yourselves.

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