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BBC3 programme; wake up call

240 replies

PerfectlyPosed · 26/06/2014 16:47

I'm sure there have been numerous threads about 'Murdered by my boyfriend' which was on Monday evening. I have watched it twice, once with my DP of 6 years and once with my two best friends.

The scene in it that made me really sit up and re-evaluate my relationship was at the end when it all came to a head and he, eventually, beat her to death. He got home very drunk and climbed onto the bed with her as she pretended to sleep. Then when she wouldn't wake up he started being a bit more aggressive and pushing her until eventually she snapped in his face.

This is exactly what my DP does to me. He comes in from a drunken night out telling me he loves me and I am his world, etc. etc. Then gradually gets more and more irritating (purposely stealing the covers or knowingly sitting too close, etc.) until I am forced to retaliate. He has never hit me and I really don't think he would but it really frightened me to see the similarities. I even said, when I was watching last night with friends, "this is exactly the way DP behaves" and they were shocked. I have recently found out I am pregnant.

I don't know why I've posted really, just to get it off my chest I suppose. In many ways, he is incredible and I am so happy that we are having a baby together but that programme really frightened me. The guy on there was charming and treated her like a princess at the beginning but flipped when he became paranoid about her behaviour. DP has never been possessive and we very much have our own lives but he does like a drink and can sometimes often get quite aggressive with it although I must reiterate never violent.

OP posts:
PerfectlyPosed · 26/06/2014 22:31

OK I just need to quickly say that he has just got home from a friends house. Asked what we were doing tonight and said that he wants to chill out, have a curry and a few beers. This is absolutely fine with me. THEN he said that he only had 2 beers tonight and he did that for me. I didn't even answer because I'm baffled by it!

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CurtWild · 26/06/2014 22:35

My stbxh did this perfectly, he shook me awake when when I was pregnant and exhausted, waking DD1 who was only 14 months at the time and had taken ages to settle. He said I should be awake if he was and I was a dull bitch..it was gone 3am...I was heavily pregnant with twins. I'd been up and down for hours settling a snuffly baby and just managed to drop off. He didn't care. It was his right as my husband to wake me up and demand attention. It only got worse. He never hit me. He took a strong, successful, outspoken, confident woman and he did what AF said..he took her down a peg or two. Infact he ground me down to nothing.

So I gathered up my babies one day and I left.

I wish you well, OP x

PerfectlyPosed · 26/06/2014 22:36

Doing tomorrow night I mean sorry

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AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 22:37

he just got in at 10:30 on a "school night" and asked what your plans were for the evening ? A curry and a few beers ? At 10:30 ?

Do both of you do shift work ?

And you are binning us off to go entertain him ? Why ?

AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 22:39

ok, cross post thank fuck

PerfectlyPosed · 26/06/2014 22:39

Wow Curt your post really made me catch my breath. Every experience shared tonight has been incredibly harrowing and you are all so brave but yours seemed a lot closer to home.

Well done for getting yourself and your babies out of that situation.

Slightly off point but at what stage did you find out you were having twins? Did you wait until your 12 week scan?

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PerfectlyPosed · 26/06/2014 22:41

Sorry,AF, I really should learn to proof read!

I genuinely am going to bed, nothing to do with entertaining him

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AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 22:45

then why are you scuttling off as soon as he walks through the door ?

if you can't be honest with us, be honest with yourself

how do you think he would react to you getting some support from other women who don't even know you ?

we were talking

CurtWild · 26/06/2014 22:53

I had a dating scan that showed I was 9 weeks pregnant with DD2 and DS Smile

I didn't want to frighten you, perfectly, I just wanted to share my experience and say if you do decide to go it alone (and believe me I know how huge a step that is) you and your baby will be absolutely fine.

unrealhousewife · 26/06/2014 22:53

Garlic has kindly explained what I meant when I said 'what makes this kind of man attracted to you'. You are just a genuinely nice ordinary person, a person who has no reason to assume that anyone would deliberately want to hurt or control you. You wouldn't do that to anyone else, so why would they do that to you? But as Garlic said you have that extra tolerance level, hoping for the best etc. possibly learned from your parents. these men can't function without power in a relationship in the same way that you can't function without trust.

So now you have got to the point where you are engaging with him on that basis, the controller and controlled. But it can't be so obvious so drama is created. He knows that you need to make something happen to forget the nasty part, the thing that started the row, the thing that a decent man would make a joke about, or reassure you about. You remember your own weakness instead, your own faults, you lose control, feel guilty, and forget that his response to what happened is what was wrong. He creates this confusion for the smoke bomb effect that it has. He is doing this because he doesn't want to lose you and this is a way to hide the real problem.

That's my take on it, I'm not a professional in this field but I've read a few books and done a few courses.

CurtWild · 26/06/2014 22:56

^ I second what unreal said.

GarlicJunoWho · 26/06/2014 22:57

Blimey, Unreal, I wish someone had written your second paragraph to me ... a very long time ago!

AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 23:01

The BBC3 recording has just ended in my house

stunned silence

lacktoastandtolerance · 26/06/2014 23:04

AnyFucker - I don't think I've ever been affected more by any other story / film / documentary /drama.

lacktoastandtolerance · 26/06/2014 23:06

OP, please keep rereading and then start acting upon the vast amount of good advice you've had on this thread. I can't add anything else but that. Do the right thing, please.

AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 23:08

I know lack

but this was a true story about an ordinary girl in an ordinary relationship

the kind of situation we occasionally get a terrible glimpse of (if we are lucky)

how it happens...it creeps up on us

we think we love him, we think he acts out of only love

we are wrong, so wrong

unrealhousewife · 26/06/2014 23:08

Brilliant wasn't it AF. Excellent acting and direction.

AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 23:10

if that programme helps one woman recognise the danger she is in, and get out, it will have been a force for good

I think it will also raise awareness that these abusing men function quite well on a day to day basis

they have relationships, they love their children, they are good looking and have charm

they are not monsters on the surface

but an ironing board ? There are no words.

lacktoastandtolerance · 26/06/2014 23:12

Sorry, did realise it was true - 'story' wasn't the right word. Anyway.

If it makes one person (OP!) understand their situation and get out and save themselves then as far as I'm concerned it's worth everyone's licence fee. I believe they're intending to show selected scenes in schools too.

AnyFucker · 26/06/2014 23:14

I am glad about that, lack if they show it in schools

bring it on

unrealhousewife · 26/06/2014 23:18

Garlic I've been stumbling through those smoke bombs for a long time. When alcohol gets involved as in OPs case the smoke gets even thicker. But Once you understand the behaviour patterns you can douse the bomb with a pail of water and watch it fizz out on the floor and see it for what it really is.

But that's my experience, OP you are in a different situation.

lacktoastandtolerance · 26/06/2014 23:24

"That's the truly frightening thing about domestic violence; the person you know and love, trust and depend on - whether financially, emotionally or because you are parenting a child - is the one intent on causing you harm."

www.voice-online.co.uk/article/review-murdered-my-boyfriend

alacarte · 26/06/2014 23:42

OP, I've PMd you. I know the fear. And I'm still here. Getting to crunch time now for me. Don't wait years down the line. Never been hit, but can't bear any more. I really wish I'd known back then what I know now. At the very least get yourself on the Freedom Programme, contact your local sure start centre to find out where you can attend it. It's very helpful.

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2014 01:53

OP, I used to think I had a short fuse. About six months after my marriage finally ended I was chatting with a male friend of mine at a party. We were talking about me getting divorced and all that. He sighed, looked at me and said, "you were so ANGRY all the time". I was, you know. So angry at so many things. Actually I was unhappy but it came out as anger.

I'm still not what you would call a shrinking violet but I'm certainly not angry all the time, because I'm not in a shit relationship now.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 27/06/2014 07:06

I've just watched it and I'm speechless. OP, if this was a wake up call for you I'm so glad, but also so sad for you.