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It's about to hit the fan

191 replies

Gogglepox · 26/06/2014 07:17

My H works away during the week and comes home Fri-Sun. I have posted before about him being EA.

To keep the family together we agreed to move (we have two girls 2, 5) to the city of his work (still in the UK). I got a new job there (a better job than previously actually!) and start at the end of July. We've rented out our London house and I am taking our girls on holiday back to my country for a week whilst the house move happens (H and his parents are organising move whilst we're away).

We are in the middle if buying a "home for life " in the new city. It is gorgeous ( but a large mortgage) and would be idyllic for the kids. Proper family home.

The catch? Through issues with my H , me seeing a counsellor and feedback from my friends about my H (I posted before about this), I'm about to tell my H on Saturday that I don't want to buy the dream house because that will not solve our problems and it would just lock us in financially . My H will be angry, scared, sad and more angry. I'm smashing to pieces his perfect family, but it's far from perfect for me.

I am also telling him that the girls and I are still moving to the new city (for my new job, they're in a good school and to be nearer their F ) but we're renting a house just for me and the girls. I'm seeing some places on Monday to hopefully choose before we go on hols so we have somewhere to come back to because otherwise we're homeless! (My H has been put up in a one bed flat for his job).

Everyone is going to be in shock (his parents - who I love ) and H and our friends. But I can't see another way. I'm not in love with him anymore, he's isolated us from our friends ( they don't want to be around him and he embarrasses me with his arrogance ) and he speaks to me and the children awfully but he doesn't even realise it. We already had a chat about how unhappy I am but he hasn't changed to make things better. A friend staying with us said she thought he had actually regressed and she confessed that she wanted to tell him to get off his fat ass and be a father...but she but her tongue.

I'm scared about the impact on our girls and moving from a large house to a tiny rental and without daddy.

Thank god I work FT to be able to afford it but it will be tight to begin with.

I feel like I wake up to a nightmare every day and think it will work out in the end but similarly to other posts here , I feel guilty that I am turning everyone's lives upside down. H also has told me I am selfish to consider splitting up the family when we spoke about it before.

I have only told a couple of friends about my plans, the rest will be in shock. I'm juggling so much : house move, job move and now relationship break up. Originally I thought I would plod along in the relationship because there was only so much I could juggle but the house move pressure has forced my hand to make a drastic call on that too.

I'm trying to be pragmatic and organise everything but I'm shit scared moving away from my friends and what I know but on one hand it's also a fresh start for me.

I will need my PIL to have our girls for a bit over the summer whilst I sort out childcare. They love the girls so should be fine but they'll be devastated that I am doing this.

I'm nervous about the chat on Saturday because he always out argues me and turns things around and makes it my fault. My counsellor said I should put a time limit on the talk and go out with a friend after to decompress.

I guess I am posting to get this off my chest and to see if there is anything else I should be thinking about?

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Gogglepox · 26/06/2014 09:17

Groovedaddy if you knew me you would know that I have the "moral fibre" not do do such a thing and that my life is too bloody busy to be able to fit it in even if I wanted to so stop talking rubbish and projecting on me.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 26/06/2014 09:18

Groove daddy yes she is looking forward to her freedom and bloody good on her. Life without a miserable, lazy, selfish fucker perhaps like you as a husband is a million times better than life with one.

VitoCorleone · 26/06/2014 09:20

I'm speechless, so people should stay in unhappy relationships? As long as he's not knocking ten bells out of her then she should be grateful and put up with anything else??

She isn't happy, so she's leaving, good on her.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 26/06/2014 09:23

Of course vito! Otherwise you might risk denting your poor hubby's ego Hmm

LisaMed · 26/06/2014 09:24

It's interesting, I know of at least two relationships where there is general agreement that the man is in an abusive relationship and should get out - that is the opinion of both men and women. It's harder to find resources that you can accidentally leave around and it seems to be a deep set thing that you don't leave a relationship except for someone else.

In both cases it is verbal abuse and some financial abuse but nothing physical and in one case it is so bad I swear that the man's lost years off his life. In both cases the men are too nice to go chasing other ladies and it looks like they are stuck in these awful relationships.

Why won't men realise that it is okay to leave a relationship just because it isn't working? Instead they either go chasing other women, with the horrific fall out that comes with that, or they blame the woman for being unfaithful when really she has just had enough?

OP - I haven't anything to add but keep the evidence and be careful.

MorrisZapp · 26/06/2014 09:26

None of your friends will be shocked. And if they are, they'll be unshocked after the two minutes it takes to tell them what's been happening.

You have a great plan in place, that's the main thing. Prepare for emotional carnage, and be strong.

MorrisZapp · 26/06/2014 09:30

Isn't there a film or book called 'Men Don't Leave'?

I have a male friend who is so uttterly spineless in his relationships, his default setting is to 'act like a c*nt' and let the women do the hard emotional work in binning him off.

It's not all of them, but enough to make groovydads theory look like a load of self serving crapola.

TheBrokenDreamsIDream · 26/06/2014 09:39

Op have you seriously considered staying where you are?

Aussiebean · 26/06/2014 09:49

Well done op.

I think he is being selfish when you ask for changes in the marriage because you are so unhappy. But he won't change because he is happy with how the marriage is going.

Gogglepox · 26/06/2014 09:50

Thebroken, yes I have but we've already rented out our house, given notice on schools and I've resigned my job. I want to take the new job because it's a promotion and it would allow easier access for H to see the children if we are in the same city.

It will be more expensive for me as I will now have to pay rent but I think the move is the right thing to do.

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hellsbellsmelons · 26/06/2014 09:53

Just wanted to add my support.
Well done on getting away from an EA man.

It's not easy and it is certainly the MUCH HARDER (yes Groove it really is) to actually get the courage up to finally leave.

You and your DC will be so much happier away from him.

Good luck with your new life. You'll do just great.

Keepithidden · 26/06/2014 10:01

Well done OP, sounds like you're getting out of a nasty stuation as quickly and efficiently as possible.

Why won't men realise that it is okay to leave a relationship just because it isn't working?

In my case if I upped and left: it would be me leaving, DW is primary carer and SAHP. I would end up becoming a 'Disney Dad' at the weekends, spending my weeknights sitting in a bedsit eating cold beans out of the tin (TM AnyFucker for that one!).

Having said that it is looking like an option in the future...

Jux · 26/06/2014 10:13

Gogglepox, good on you. Good luck with the move. As for taking the children to see your parents, ask the Embassy.

Gogglepox · 28/06/2014 12:13

Ok so I am telling my H today that I'm moving out with our children. Can I get some advise on best time to do it?

Options:

  1. Today before his parents arrive to stay for the weekend but with kids in the house
  2. Today after his parents arrive with kids in the house
  3. Today after his parents arrive but ask parents to take kids out so we can talk (however they will be tired upon arrival and will find it odd I am asking them to leave shortly after)
  4. Tomorrow when his parents are here and before he leaves as he works away during the week with/out kids in the house

I guess what I didn't factor in is after I tell him, it doesn't make sense for us to sleep in the same bed because of the tension so I may have to sleep with the children. Since I am causing this I do not expect him to vacate our room.

Also how can we have dinner together as a family tonight after I dropped that atom bomb? I could go to a friends for dinner to stay out of the house.

Maybe I tell him right before his parents arrive and then leave when they do arrive so he can talk to them (he has no friends but is close to his parents who are lovely). I can then have dinner out but come back in the evening once things have hopefully calmed down and so I can sleep in my own house.

Advice needed please!!!!

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Hissy · 28/06/2014 12:28

Sheesh, does it have to be with his parents there?

Mind you, they might be able to offer support if he needs it I suppose.

No good time for that kind of conversation is there? :(

You are doing the right thing though.

Gogglepox · 28/06/2014 12:31

I wanted his parents there for support for him. He will have no one else to talk to. And I think they know we've been having problems.

I love them and they love me but it will be interesting how they play sides.

I have to do it this weekend before we buy a house.

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Hissy · 28/06/2014 12:37

You're right, you know you are. What time are they coming, do you have time to tell him now?

Gogglepox · 28/06/2014 12:38

They're coming at 4pm so that is the only timings I have to work with

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Hissy · 28/06/2014 12:38

Would you be able to give his parents a heads up? About having to have a conversation with him, and him potentially needing their support?

I'm as 'at sea' on this as you might feel you are, I don't really know what to suggest, but as I say, you're doing the right thing.

Hissy · 28/06/2014 12:39

I feel for you, you must be feeling sick over this. I know I would be! :)

Hissy · 28/06/2014 12:40

I think if you allow enough time to tell him, AND for him to regain composure before they arrive, that'd be the least bad thing.

Telling him as they are imminently due to arrive doesn't seem a good idea.

TwoPerfectGifts · 28/06/2014 12:42

Since you'll be asking for their help over the summer I think it makes sense for it to be while they are there.

Also, I think it will make it 100% clear that you mean business and aren't just testing the waters.

Lastly, I'd hope the presence of other people would limit any EA behaviour from him.

For what it's worth, OP, I think you're doing the right thing and being very brave.

CookieMonsterIsHot · 28/06/2014 12:44

The sooner the better.

Gogglepox · 28/06/2014 13:00

Thanks for the support. My chest is so tight I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack! Trying to be brave and know I'm doing the right thing but not looking forward to the fallout and I have no idea how he will react.

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VodkaJelly · 28/06/2014 13:03

Do it now, before his parent arrive. That way he will have had some time to digest the news and might be over the shock abit more.

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