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I'm a fucking mug

309 replies

ReallySadFace · 18/05/2014 22:02

Dh, who I have posted about before (name changed) has just fucking grabbed me again and bruised my neck and given me a fat lip. This is after hitting me around the face with cushions after I warned him about touching me and throwing my keys at me hard.

All he has done all day is argue with me and scream at me and ruined my plans with my children. One min he's all apologetic and then he's a nasty cunt when he realises it doesn't wash with me anymore.

I have asked him to leave, so many times I've lost count but he won't go. He refuses. I'm going to have to leave tomorrow with my children :(

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wasuup2014 · 20/05/2014 20:28

RE SS and what happens next. You will be contacted by an IDVA who will ask you, your views and chat to you hopefully giving you support. She will meet with other professionals including social services at what is called a MARAC meeting and they will come up with a safety plan to support you. SS will visit and do an initial assessment and will maybe assign a SW. Your DH will get a date to attend court and you will find out from there what will happen next in regard to that.

cestlavielife · 20/05/2014 22:18

Ss can help by referring for local support etc.
stop covering for your ex,
You need to cut contact and report if he texts you.

Let ss liaise with him eg to set up supervised contact with the dc.

Ss won't tell you to leave him..but you need to be telling them that is what' you have done.

Fontella · 20/05/2014 22:34

They are all very shocked as they believe my H worships me (which tbh most of the time he does)

He doesn't 'worship' you. You can't 'worship' people part-time. You don't 'worship' them one minute and beat the crap out of them the next.

You don't physically assault people you worship, smash up their property, verbally and emotionally abuse them and then afterwards, tell them that it's their own fault all that happened.

If your family are under any illusions that this man 'worships' you then you need to put them straight. Although I have to say, reading what you wrote above, it seems you still aren't too clear about it yourself.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/05/2014 22:57

Ss will come out this time I'm sure.

I don't share this, ever, but I think maybe it will help you x

I had a ss interview when stbxh hit me, and I confided in my gp. The gp decided that the nature of the injury - neck, like yours, but punched in the throat, not strangled. I had no proof, it had healed by the time I told her. But the neck area, and the lack of remorse, and the fact that Ds was in the house when it happened, all signaled real danger.

So on top of dealing with all that, I had to deal with ss coming round to judge me. That's how I felt at the time, and it was such am awful time, I really feel for you.

So a 2.5 hr interview at my house, with Ds present. Then they phoned the hv and gp to get their viewpoints, and closed the file, satisfied that I would put my baby ahead of the partner.

She did alot of observing me with Ds, to get a sense of how well I looked after him and prioritied him. She said he was lovely and it was obvious I'd walk into hell and back for him... Which was relieving that shone through

And it's true, I would, I'd die for him - but better to choose to live for him instead :)

Going through everything in detail was horrible, but also kind of healthy to admit all this stuff, to a stranger who not only believed me, but saw more clearly the abuse and risks than I did.

Some of it was almost nice (or would have been in a different situation!), talking about Ds development, and how well he was doing, and the things we did together that we loved to do, and I showed her his cot, and his toys, and his favourite books, and the things I had made for him (appliquéd blanket and clothes)... Like a really weird high pressure show and tell. Surreal stuff!

She did ask some odd questions though, which felt a bit odd against the backdrop of horror I was going through at the time! But I answered everything honestly and very seriously, as humour, even gallows humour, wasn't what she was looking for, & it could have been very misinterpreted.

She also asked alot of hypothetical questions, like, what would you do if he broke in and put a knife to your neck (no weapon history at all, bit random). And i answered first, well he wouldnt, and she pushed me on it (obviously!) so I said 'well, I wouldn't be able to do anything, he'd have a knife to my neck' and she pushed again so I said 'look, in this scenario, I'd be dead, so I'm not sure I could do anything'.

Always puzzled me that line of questioning, but I think now it was to do with making sure I understood how powerless I was to defend myself in that situation, let alone a baby. And that's really the main thing... If you let him back into your life, you are powerless as physically, you cannot protect yourself or your dc. So that's why you have to protect yourselves Before it gets to that.

Basically, it was intense, but necessary, as children's lives are ruined by seeing abuse, let alone getting caught in the crossfire, or the abuse moving on to them too. It made me realise that I was one of them, those abused women, those other people I never thought I would be.

And ss need to know if that child has someone who will fight for them, and do anything to keep them safe and happy and innocent. But if you can't be that person, they will step in.

And that was the scary part. She told me that she personally had had to take children into care when an abused mother couldn't see the danger and harm to her children and herself. She made her power very clear.

And at the time, being brutally honest, I felt scared and freaked out by it, it sounded almost threatening - though of course she wasn't in any way threatening me. She was telling me the truth. The unpalatable truth.

Someone needs to be there for those kids, and the sw will have seem such horrible things, so they don't take your motherly bond and priorities as read, they can't, they don't know you.

In the end, it was a beneficial experience for me to go through. Fucking hated it, but I came out the other side with no confusion or muddled thinking, and no
Intention of ever going through it again. Ds first, dh err, not on the list. That's what his actions did.

That's how I had to change, no room for sympatheses and pity, no softening or being bullied back, no fear in the face of changing my life. It just was the way it had to be.

I never saw children's services again.

Hope that helped Flowers.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/05/2014 23:04

Oh and a last thought:

The sw will be looking for hidden damage to the dc, so not that their happy now (although that's good), but about what's going on under the surface.

How much have they been exposed to, and how much you know about what witnessing violence and shouting and terror / aggression. Especially seeing or hearing the person who is their Rock and anchor in life scared and in danger.

ReallySadFace · 20/05/2014 23:37

misc thankyou so much for posting that. It has helped tremendously.

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MiscellaneousAssortment · 20/05/2014 23:49

Good :)

I find it sometimes helps just to know someone else has been through it too... It's filled with such stigma, and fear, and silence. Just normal, everyday people get in these situations too. And that's ok

Flowers
Inertia · 21/05/2014 00:38

Misc, that's a really honest and moving post.

Really , it might be helpful to explain what's happened to someone senior at your DD's school - as it's likely that SS will contact them , it might be helpful to give them time to put together a plan to support your DD as best they can. Some schools employ trained counsellors who support children with difficult home lives or anxiety.

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 21/05/2014 06:45

Miscellaneous that's a fantastic post. Thank you.

ReallySadFace · 21/05/2014 07:51

So H just came round with a police officer to get some of his things. Wow that was awkward. We didn't speak at all (obviously) but he looked awful. Youngest DD was really happy to see him but then she is a daddies girl anyway. DS said to me "daddy smashed your phone didn't he? I don't like him doing that" :(

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oldiebutnctoday · 21/05/2014 08:12

Well that's that out of the way, don't feel sorry for him really, he did this not you! Can you focus today on getting some practical help and advice from women's aid, citizens advice, a solicitor? I second talking to dds teacher if you can. The dc will be fine, better in fact without him, they will still love him and you, but they will be happier and safer without him in the house. Keep strong, it will be worth it.

ILoveCoreyHaim · 21/05/2014 08:21

I'm separated and my vex spends more time with the kids now than he did when we were together . The youngest is a daddy's girls and asks to sleep at his all the time. She slept last night

ReallySadFace · 21/05/2014 09:30

I'm phoning tax credits today and also a solicitor. I'm not sure what will happen with regards to the house as we have a joint mortgage but I'm 99.9% certain he would let me stay here with the kids and pay some of the mortgage and bills too. I have just moved DD1 to a new school in February and DS is due to start there in Sept so I don't really want any upheaval tbh. I live in an area where social housing is very sparse and it can take more than a year to get a permanent home, and then it's not in a guaranteed area it could be miles from here :( luckily I do drive and I have a car but still, all my family and friends live here.

On another note DD2 is poorly today. She has a sore throat and can barely talk, along with a runny nose and nasty cough. Poor baby. We are snuggled up in bed watching Peppa Pig. Oh the joy.

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oldiebutnctoday · 21/05/2014 10:20

Good stuff re solicitor etc! Poor dd! Still there are worse ways to spend a day than snuggling with your babies, enjoy the cuddles.

cestlavielife · 21/05/2014 10:21

great post by misc.

livingzuid · 21/05/2014 10:51

You're doing so well really. It's a lot to take in and try to sort out finances, legal advice, etc whilst making sure the DCs are ok so good for you for making those calls. Information is power - once you know where you stand you will feel much better.

Cake for your poorly DD.

ReallySadFace · 21/05/2014 12:18

Thanks for the cake living although she is much more a savoury kinda gal, she loves cheese with a passion. She is asleep now so I can crack on with these phonecalls.

Speaking of which I have just had one from the domestic violence officer who just went over everything with me and clarified that I still wish to proceed. I'm guessing a lot of women turn around and take it all back :(

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oldiebutnctoday · 21/05/2014 13:00

You're probably right really, but you aren't other women, you are strong and you are doing the right and best thing for your and your dc. Good luck with the phone calls.

oldiebutnctoday · 22/05/2014 13:25

Hi really, how are you today? Any luck yesterday with your phonecalls? And is dd a bit better today? Thanks

Chocaholicmonster · 23/05/2014 23:53

Hey Really, It'd be great to know that you're well x

ReallSadFace · 11/06/2014 13:07

Hi all just thought I would update. I have name changed since and participated on MN as normal.

Well H was in court yesterday for the hearing. He pleaded not guilty so it's going to trial on the 18/08. I will have to go as a witness.

I have stayed in our home with the children and he has continued to pay the bills as usual. I have had contact with him even though I shouldn't and although I have felt pressures to drop it I haven't.

We were meant to be going on holiday on Monday, only in the uk but it has been booked for months and was paid with out of money my dad had given to me before he moved to Spain. I don't know whether to cancel or try and go on my own with the dc.

I have a social worker coming round on Friday to talk to me about an assessment :(

Granville72 · 11/06/2014 13:35

Go and take the children, no need to waste a holiday when it's booked and paid for. It will do you and the kids the world of good.

Why do you feel pressure to drop charges? Is he pressuring you?

ParadoxicalUndressing · 11/06/2014 17:51

God OP, the least he could do is face up to the charges. He's disgusting.

I hope you feel able to go on holiday with your children. I bet it would help to have some space from this. And if it doesn't, you can always come home.

I've been following your threads. You've showed such strength and resilience. Don't let that bastard win, no matter what he spits at you.

oikopolis · 11/06/2014 18:16

Go on the holiday OP.

Try to stop talking to him. The more you talk to him, the more he can pretend that what he did was OK.

JsOtherHalf · 11/06/2014 20:09

Is the holiday with your ex? If so don't go with him, any court action could be seriously undermined.