DH said no more tattoos

[ICanSeeTheSun]

My vision is to turn my back into a canvas, I believe tattoo are art, so far I have 4 on my back.

I love them and it is a part of me.

No offense deep but you don't seem to know anything about tattoos at all! A few years to fade?! Uhm... it takes a LOT longer, especially nowadays, the ink and techniques used are completely different and also, people are much more aware of looking after tattoos in regards to when it is healing, having touch ups if required etc. You seem to comment a lot on something you don't know about? Also, please upload one of your drawings, seeing as you are so qualified to comment on a badly drawn picture, I'd like to see the improvements you make :)

The picture of the tattoo was posted for all to see, presumably with an understanding that many will have views.

I'm not an artist, but then I'm not the one posting picture on a public web site.

What she meant is that the tattoo isn't badly drawn/tattoo - most tattoos are transfers not frew hand, and if you think it is then why don't you show us what you classify as well drawn/tattooed.

You'll find more often than not that, those who don't looK after their tattoos well (i.e tattoo aftercare, sun exposure, even certain creams etc.), fade more easily and quicker. Yes, certain colours fade more than others but you make that concious desicion knowing that one day in future it may need touching up. Just like you groom yourself, you look after your tattoos.

DH has coloured tattoos, his oldest (blue,green, red, orange) tattoo is 14 years old and hasn't needed a touch up yet.

Thanks for the art critique, I take it you are an expert?

I am going to get my tattoo artist to actually draw it herself based on the picture not just trace it. Because a) she is a damn good artist, and b) even if this picture were perfect, i dont want a tattoo that means a lot to me to just be a carbon-copy of someone elses.

If it fades, I'll get it coloured again. Never understand why fading is given as a reason, most things require maintenance. And tbh, if I'm alive long enough for it to need recolouring, I'll be to busy being happy about that.

Too right multiple and beyond i just think deep doesn't have a clue about tattoos at all! DP's Grandad has tattoos from over 50 years ago and they are faded a) because they were badly done anyway and b) he never did any after care c) never had any touch ups and d) spends every waking minute outside in the sunshine when it pops out with no sun screen or anything! One of my tattoos is 10 years old and colourful, not faded one bit! I expect parts of my sleeve will need touching up in particular in the future as some of it has really intricate detail but that's part of having tattoos. So far it is lasting well !

"Thanks for the art critique, I take it you are an expert? " You don't have to know anything about art to recognise a piece of mediocre commercially drawn artwork.

The picture is already a copy and it will be copied again- whether by freehand or stencil. hardly a piece of original artwork.

The picture of the tattoo was posted for all to see, presumably with an understanding that many will have views

Yes, of course. It's just that most people are able to put a different view across without sounding so rude about it at the same time.

"badly drawn and the face has no character" how is that rude?

Ah, i see, you are trying to create an argument. That is known as goading and mnhq take a very dim view of it.

No I'm nor trying to create an argument- I thought this was a discussion.
Neither am I "goading"- although there are no MNs rules about that!!

I have not personally attacked anyone here. If you don't like debate then you don't need to contribute.

Many people grow to hate tattoos- that is what happens when we change and out tattoos don't.

Laser tattoo removal is a booming business, it is expensive and not always successful. The British Dermatologist Association's figures show that one in three regret tattoos in later life. many say that they will never regret them, but with such high numbers why would you want to take the chance. You don;t know who you will be in 20 years time.

I watched my late husband trying to scrub medically necessary tattoos from his skin with wire wool. Not nice.

I can understand that argument with someone having a "tramp stamp" (hate that phrase) illegally at 14 and regretting it when they are 30. And not just women either, i know my dad regrets his tattoos from when he was a teenager, and then the larger cover ups he had to have.

But the people posting here are grown ups, and it is damn patronising to assume you know better than them that they will regret it.

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But the people posting here are grown ups, and it is damn patronising to assume you know better than them that they will regret it."

But you don't have the evidence that the 30% of regretters had their Tats done at 14.

Show me evidence to back that up.

I dont need to piss about googling for evidence, even your 30% stat leaves 70% that dont regret it. The odds are still in my favour, using your evidence.

That picture was not badly drawn at all!

I don't think you stats really back up your argument as Beyond says that leaves 70% of people not regretting their tattoos.

You really like goading people don't you?

"mediocre commercially drawn artwork." Wow those are big words. Just because the imagine has been used over and over doesn't mean it looses personal meaning or that the details and design of it cannot be changed.

The tattoo on my back is copied - the basic outline anyway, the only difference is the details put into it and the personal meaning behind it.

I'm done. I had enough of it on the larger family thread, I've already said enough.

Anyone willing to debate/discuss tattoos can do so without being rude. There's been some good debates on here and some genuinely nice posters who replied to OP :)

Anyone planning their next one? Or have it booked? I'd like another but not sure where I'd have one!

I have my next few planned. Not booked yet, going to have a chat with my artist next week.

My Mum is going on about a football tattoo if her team wins the play-offs on Saturday. Blimey imagine a managing director having another tattoo!

Multiple, the point of my phoenix is to egg me on, cheesy as it sounds. I'm pretty much in the ashes right now, in the space of two years I have gone from a yummy mummy (ha) pushing around a pram to hobbling around on crutches (mobility scooter has just been delivered) and needing help to shower, unable to cook for myself or do much at all. I plan for it to be the making of me, am studying having never really been bothered before, and hopefully rising like a phoenix from the ashes.

And i dont give half a fuck if some judgemental twat thinks its "mediocre" or "commercially drawn". Live my life in my shoes and I'll listen to your opinion.

Thing is, Beyond, it wouldn't matter what you'd put up, deepinthewoods would have sneered at it. As you say, your phoenix means a lot to you and that's what matters.

Incidentally none of my tattoos have any symbolic or personal meaning to me at all! They reflect my interests and aesthetic tastes, but that's it. I do want to correct something deepinthewoods says - lots of tattoos are custom drawn, one off pieces, and all mine are. I haven't seen any like them anywhere, which is one reason I won't put them up online much because they might get copied (this happens a lot). Others are from 'flash' - pre-drawn designs you can choose beforehand from a selection. Both types of tattoo have their place.

There are themes in tattooing - you quite often see them coming up again and again, and the old school favourites - skulls, daggers, sparrows etc, are as popular now as they ever were. And of course certain styles of tattooing, like Japanese, have particular set motifs that people rework in different ways - koi, tigers, flowers like peonies/chrysanthemums/cherry blossom, warriors, dragons, etc.

I love tattoos, love pictures of tattoos, love hearing people talking about their tattoos and what they mean/don't mean to them. I guess it is a hobby for me but I don't see anything wrong with that! I'm not hurting anyone. My children love my work and I think having a mum that looks different has helped them be more accepting of difference in others, in whatever form it takes.

Beyond, well spoken and you don't have to justify anything. The reasons of your tattoo are personal and despite what people think of the tattoo it's what matters to you and what it means to you, that counts. I'm sure you haven't gone into this blindly and choosen an image you like. I hope that your tattoo brings you strength and sense of regeneration :)

Anyone planning their next one? Or have it booked? I'd like another but not sure where I'd have one!

I'm halfway through one at the moment, next session in a couple of weeks. I'd love to share pics with some people on here but don't want my work ripped to shreds by the antis. We need a tattooed splinter group :)

:) only problem i have with my boys is them drawing tattoos on each other!

I'm currently trying to decide whether to get my cherry blossom done before my sisters wedding or not. Wouldnt bother her, except she has been "told" by my dad to leave her back piece til after the wedding (even though both tattooed arms are on display in her dress)

Findo - DH is just like you, he gets tattoos because he loves them and because he loves a certain design. Some have meaning, most don't! He has a zombified Audrey Hepburn on his foot because he loved the gore aspect of it - he's never seen one of her films! He also has a few blank outline ones on his wrist that are left with no detail on purpose so the DC can colour them in :)

I love skulls, and bones and integrate them into tattoo where I can!

Multiple that is so cool that you DC are able to colour your DH tattoos in.

"He also has a few blank outline ones on his wrist that are left with no detail on purpose so the DC can colour them in"

That is too cute! What a sweet idea.

Beyond, my 7 year old drew an eagle chest piece with purple felt-tip on her cuddly polar bear a couple of years ago. We had to wash it due to general grot quite recently and she was gutted when it came off!