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'D'P has stolen all the DC's money

293 replies

thatwasprettylow · 09/02/2014 21:10

Namechanged for this - I'd appreciate some advice, please. I'll try not to dripfeed but it's a long story so I'll have to annotate.

Basically, DP has a long history of being utterly hopeless with money. He seems totally incapable of spending money on things like bills, and squanders it on I know not what, to the extent that I've wondered if he's got a gambling addiction or something that I don't know about. This hasn't been helped by the fact that his work over the last few years has been really erratic. We've been really struggling money-wise for a few years now.

Last week I went to the bank to pay in some money that the children were given for Christmas and DS's January birthday and was told that DS's account had been closed. I assumed that the bank had just screwed up somehow, as the DC's accounts are Trust accounts and are supposed to require 3 signatures (DP's mine and my DMum's) for any withdrawals. The woman from the bank poked about a bit and said she'd ring me back, but didn't, so I asked my DMum to pop in when she was passing and see if they had sorted it.

A few days later, last Thursday, 'D'P 'confessed' to me that he somehow linked his account online to the DS's account and has, over a period of time, drained DS's account and spent all the money (about 10k). The bank had contacted him and warned him that we were inquiring about it. I told him to leave the house and called the bank, who confirmed that he has also drained DD's account.

I can't believe he's done this - I have no idea what to say to him or to the DCs, who are still quite little (6 and 2). Apart from that, I need to sort out logistics, as DP usually does the childcare while I'm at work.

He has sent me a text saying 'please can we resolve this?', as if a quick chat will sort it out. I don't want to see him - I just don't think there's anything he can say to excuse this.

OP posts:
PissesGlitter · 09/02/2014 21:34

Phone the police
Fucking scumbag!

Please tell us you are never taking him back

cfc · 09/02/2014 21:35

When a family member was doing this (can't say much more) but it was for drink and cocaine.

What the actual FUCK is this shady little tit spending the babies' money on?

I'm sorry you're going through this OP.

This would be the end of the road for me and my husband, if he or I did such a thing. Trust is all, isn't it?

JumpingJackSprat · 09/02/2014 21:35

What a total arsehole. Call the police and report the bank to the financial regulator.

BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 09/02/2014 21:36

Yes yes - the bank will waffle and say they will investigate - tell them straight that you'll be going straight to the police and to the financial regulators. Make it clear that you will be describing exactly how they warned your P that you were onto him- that is incredible.

I think you should be able to recover this money if you absolutely go in all guns blazing and do NOT allow the bank to set the pace.

He probably gambles.

FannyBazaar · 09/02/2014 21:36

Oh, just had a thought! My ex was ignoring his credit card bills once, so the bank wrote to him to say that if he didn't pay they would use any other accounts held with them to take the money. They then took a large sum of money I had just deposited in our joint account. When I asked where the money was gone, it was not an easy thing for the bank to answer and explain. I was furious. They would put me through on the phone from one place to the next and say things like maybe I had and outstanding debt and then when it was discovered it was then DH's, they wouldn't talk to me about it because the credit card was not in my name.

In the small print for the cards it does say they can take money from other accounts, including joint accounts. Not sure if they are supposed to write a letter to both account holders. Certainly in my case I never found a letter addressed to me or to both of us but then if ex had got hold of it first he would not have shared.

haveyourselfashandy · 09/02/2014 21:36

He is fucking scum stealing from his own children.Please get in tough with the police,it will show both him and the bank you mean business.

VelmaD · 09/02/2014 21:36

If you explicitly set up the account needing three signatures the bank have lots of questions to answer.

Yes, change all passwords and ask for your credit report. Especially if you own your house outright.

he's done this twice now, you need to involve the police. Even if nothing comes of it, you need to make a formal complaint to them and the bank.

And start making this separation permenant. You and your children deserve more. Especially more than someone who would steal from you, live a lovely lifestyle yet watch you scramble and save and work two jobs.

redundantandbitter · 09/02/2014 21:36

So sorry OP. you must be frantic . I really hope the bank have fuckedup and there is a way of getting it back .

Just before my Dc's father moved out I gave him permission stupid stupid stupid to use my Dc's savings to clear 'our' debt. He took £7k . The proviso being he a) put a plan into place to pay it back and b) he sorted the finances so that it didn't happen again.

Yeah.. No. He moved out. The money's gone.

When I pinned him down and asked demanded he put in writing where exactly it had gone . Which card, when etc. he flounced out of the house but I managed to get him back indoors but still no 'explanation'.

Also the last £5k of my redundancy disappeared on 'our' debt. Now , I had no cash and no credit card during this period.

I could kick myself. I have saved as much as I can . He maintains he has a savings plan in place but I have no proof.

All the while he presents a sensible professional persona. Married and living in a 'naice' house in the country. Twat

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/02/2014 21:37

Can I just suggest it may be worth getting advice from the police/solicitor before you say much more to the bank?

Please don't kid yourself the bank will prioritise helping you - they'll be much keener to protect themselves, so personally I'd want to know exactly what my rights were in order to avoid saying anything which might give them a "get out"

Tiredemma · 09/02/2014 21:37

What a shit.
What's to resolve? Is he for real?

FannyBazaar · 09/02/2014 21:37

Do you have access to his bank statements, credit card bills left in the home?

BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 09/02/2014 21:37

Remember too that going to the police will be helpful if you do find he has taken out credit in your name, etc. you might really need a paper trail showing that you have reported him for this.

Funnyfoot · 09/02/2014 21:39

I have no words.....Oh wait yes I do What a fucking lowest of the low scumbag!

I am sorry for you and your DC's. You need to contact the police OP because he clearly thought he could get away with it again. You and your children deserve better than this.
I hope that you can get something back from the bank.

hoobypickypicky · 09/02/2014 21:40

You need to do four things.

  1. Report the theft to the police.
  2. Lodge an official complaint with the bank, with a view to recovering the money which should have taken three signatures to access. If that fails you contact the Financial Ombudsman.
  3. Change all passwords and access details to all other accounts and financial documents.
  4. Change the locks.

If you don't do all of these things you're not only failing yourself, you're failing your children too.

TeamEdward · 09/02/2014 21:41

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makemineapinot · 09/02/2014 21:42

My exH did this too to the tune of £3k from each child. The court ordered him to repay it, get didn't then went bankrupt a few years later and the court couldn't/didn't enforce it. Call the police x

thatwasprettylow · 09/02/2014 21:43

Fuck. OK going to have to check everything, Experian etc - no point in opening more accounts for the DC at the mo as I have nothing to put in them!

I don't know if the police will treat it as theft if his name was on the accounts? Although both accounts were 'In Trust For DC', so maybe it counts.

As for the relationship - we haven't had a real relationship in ages - we just live together and share logistics. He is like a man-child, perennially unable to sort his shit out in terms of work etc. I don't really care what he spent the money on, tbh. It is gone and I won't get it back unless I can recover it from the bank.

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expatinscotland · 09/02/2014 21:46

As he needed three signatures, he must have forged.

Funnyfoot · 09/02/2014 21:46

I would get together anything he has of value. Laptop, i-pad phone, watch etc and tell him that you are selling it. It won't recover all the money but it is a start. Despicable man. How the hell could he look at his children everyday knowing he was spending their future!!!

starfishmummy · 09/02/2014 21:46

If I was in your shoes, tomorrow.I would be busy opening new accounts at a completely different bank to make sure that he can't get hold of any more.money and that the bank can't just dip into it like Fanny's did.
I would also.want to check that he hasn't used the house to guarantee any loans.

Then I would change the locks

LEMmingaround · 09/02/2014 21:47

I am so very sorry OP :( I think this has to be the worst thing i have ever read on here

BrunoBrookesDinedAlone · 09/02/2014 21:47

You should be able to recover it from the bank, really.

If it was held in trust and required three signatures - they have fucked up. Don't let them tell you different. If you don't get a positive response then come back here and post in legal.

Do you jointly own the house?

haveyourselfashandy · 09/02/2014 21:48

It will count as theft,those accounts were for your children and required 3 signatures to access so some fraudulent behaviour has occured somewhere.Call the non emergency police number and ask for advice.

SavoyCabbage · 09/02/2014 21:48

Wow, how awful. For you I mean. What an utter bastard stealing from his children.

I would get some advice before speaking to the bank again. You must prioritise getting that money back.

ChasedByBees · 09/02/2014 21:49

Shock totally unforgivable.