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The Dating Thread - episode 61

999 replies

lurkinglorna · 09/08/2013 21:44

BOOM!

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Flojobunny · 20/08/2013 10:15

He didnt suggest 'meeting my kids' he suggested I bring them to the beach at the weekend, where I'm guessing he'll be.
Maybe he just takes people at face value?

So MrTalks-alot has text to say he over slept and would be 15 mins late, now he's rang to say his car won't start and to give him 10 mins to see if he can get it started. I've been waiting in a car park for 20 mins already.
If I hadn't paid for childcare already then I'd tell him where to stick it.

KinNora · 20/08/2013 10:20

Wagon it's taking me a while to get used to your new name, how's it going with your footballer ?

Gin I must admit that I don't tend to ask loads of questions, I've tended to find out whatever I've wanted to know about a man during the course of conversation, maybe your prospective datees are doing this.

Kirstywirsty · 20/08/2013 10:43

Happy birthday 49 CakeThanksWine

Ginocchio · 20/08/2013 10:59

Nora Neither seemed particularly self-absorbed, so I'm assuming for now that it's just a messaging thing. Of course, if we do meet & it turns into an episode of university challenge, I'll maybe reconsider...

Wagonwheels · 20/08/2013 11:12

Hope Mr T turns up Flo, and that you have a fab date :).

Kin daily chat with the footballer, but no second date yet... Playing it cool and not chasing... he's not long separated, doesn't have a car at the moment, and I'm not at all convinced he's ready to date, but he certainly seems quite keen and I quite fancy a dalliance with him...

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:17

dalliance is a good word, Wag Smile

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JulietteMontague · 20/08/2013 11:30

Happy happy birthday 49 today Cake. Have a lovely day, and night, and afternoon and morning Grin

Kitty it's natural to miss having that feeling that someone likes you but it's good to remind yourself everyday that you are the prize here

Wagon arf at 'you need your oven cleaned'

Bant agree you can do what you like. Of course it's weird Skyping if you've just had sex with someone else but that is the deal at the moment. What do you think Derby wants out of this?

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:31

gin yeah I don't ask loads of question either, even if i am very interested in meeting? i AM interested in people and after leaving a meet could tell you a LOT about them, just seems a bit vulgar and over familiar (also like I'm scoping out whether or not their a good prospect or looking for a reason to reject them).

i know internet dating is well.....dating.....but i still think when getting to know someone you should just chat to them in a low key way and let them reveal themselves at a natural pace. big fan of starting conversation with venue/weather/low key stuff like talk about the cafe you're in or current affairs or something, don't run a sales session (for you) or an interviewing session (for them).

also i think a lot of communication (that leads up to attraction) ISN'T verbal. i tend to pick guys up (i mean as in "is there a mutual attraction?") on mannerisms and stuff more than actually what they're telling me?

sounds exciting anyway! Smile

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AWarmFuzzyFuture · 20/08/2013 11:32

Happy Birthday 48/9!!!![cheering] Great to hear that mum is doing well Smile. And EnvyEnvyEnvy (yes three) re:Mr R&R. Have an absolutely lovely day. x

CC (aka Crusty Cuthbert thanks Kin) has been quiet this morning, but has been visiting my profile twice since last night.

Having had a night's sleep, and having summoned the right attitude, I am feeling calmer...OD Thread breathes a sigh of relief

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:37

Quick etiquette question:

dr pashing has texted me saying he's got two tickets to concert tonight? (no 3rd date sex it seems Hmm) we're meeting there its miles from pash alley Sad

does one offer to pay back cost of ticket (not sure how to phrase it) or shall i just get a drink? (he's basically wined and dined me and paid for taxi home two previous meets and don't forget the free gynaecological examination ) its something i want to go to, but we didn't discuss going to it, he just texted me saying he's "had these tickets for ages".

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kittykat10 · 20/08/2013 11:43

I don't think I'm much of a prize lol

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:45

OR SHOULD I GO ROUND AND CLEAN HIS FLAT? Confused

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hostesswithleastest · 20/08/2013 11:45

Lorna I think if you are studying and can't afford that kind of thing and he bought them without asking you can probably accept as a gift. Little does he know you'd prefer an evening down pash alley eh?

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:46

happy birthday 49 Grin

hostess EnvyEnvy

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AWarmFuzzyFuture · 20/08/2013 11:48

Yes you are Kitty in the sense that he should be wanting to impress you and treat you nicely. None of this half arsed can't be bothered rudeness that makes me Angry

Talk to him about it Lorna

lurkinglorna · 20/08/2013 11:49

thanks hostess, i'm not studying full time, i just don't seem to have any money spare Smile i want a grown up job with responsibility more than i do a fellah i think!

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hostesswithleastest · 20/08/2013 11:50

Don't worry lorna it'll be a while til any more pash is coming my way. He's up north every weekend with kids so it could only really be an fwb thing as we have jobs!!

I like what bant says about mermaids picture freezing on Skype and looking at it... Ah I recall the days of crazy love like that... Long ago!! Hehehe :)

OhWesternWind · 20/08/2013 11:50

Bloody hell I was just going to have a quick catch up whilst I'm having a coffee - what's happened this morning? Turbo charged thread on speed!

First of all though happy birthday 49 Wine Flowers Cake A night to remember eh!!

Talking of nights to remember, sounds good for you too Hostess. Did the sussies do the trick then?

Yoga so glad things went well with Foodie. It's the whole thing of you can't tell til you meet them. Really Grin for you. Lots of successful first dates around at the moment, it's lovely.

Beagle must admit that I've found that when people are interested, they show they are interested. But the telephoning thing has thrown me a bit, not sure what etiquette is here! I think I'd be tempted to send him a quick text (if I liked him) and see what the response was. One thing I will say is that it really shouldn't be hard work like this second guessing what's going on by the timing of texts and calls. I had a relationship with someone who kept me on edge like this and it was awful. Game playing isn't attractive, playing it cool isn't attractive (although neither is coming across like an over-excited puppy).

Woo hoo WFF getting very warm and fuzzy over your way!

Kitty don't feel bad about kissing him. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Why do you feel bad by the way? If you both enjoyed it, surely it's a good thing? Like Nora says, I wasn't sure for a while if Alpha fancied me - he was lovely and attentive, but no action (and things are still going slowly but we are getting there Grin). I think a lot of it was him wanting to be polite and respectful and treat me properly - he seems to have been in it for a proper relationship from the start, and it's lovely to have the emotional side of things keeping pace with the physical. But there were signs there like holding hands, putting his arm round me etc, just not the sexy stuff. If there was no contact at all, it might be a different thing.

Bant way hey for clean loos but you know I am with Nora on this one (also being a soppy and incurably romantic cah). I so want you to be able to find a way for things to work out with Mermaid. Is it fair to keep on seeing Derby when you are pretty much Mr Emotionally Unavailable because of the Mermaid thang?

Gin well, well, well, things are looking up! Just meet up with both of them, and see how they are in the flesh. I really wouldn't read too much in to whether or not they message you questions. They could be worried about not being intrusive or something, very difficult to judge via message. I very rarely ask outright questions as steering the conversation in a particular direction usually gets you the information you're after without looking nosy! Great stuff, though. You can have a Grin too.

Wag sounds good - are you waiting for him to suggest another meeting?

Flo does MrFlash have kids? I think that sometimes people who don't, don't realise what's a good idea or not. Could just be he thought he was being helpful suggesting a child-friendly meet up. Hope the late bloke turned up . . .

Nora was that on the bottom with a Woman's Weekly then? (The results take so long because it's two weeks or so to get them through back to the hospital, then they have a team conference to decide on a treatment plan/options if these are needed so they can discuss everything at the appointment, which they are allowing a fortnight for being holiday season. . . I thought you'd be able to ring up and get your results but no - bit of a bummer to have all that extra waiting if you've got the all-clear).

All good here. I am very happy and excited about this whole Alpha thing, but it also feels, a bit paradoxically, very calm and easy and like things are unfolding exactly how they should. I know he likes me (well, more than likes me I think) and I'm sure he knows how I feel about him. It's fantastic. I am worried about getting in too deep and it all going wrong, but I don't really think it's going to at least not yet

hostesswithleastest · 20/08/2013 11:51

wff is right kitty he's a waste of energy type. There seem to be so many of them...

hostesswithleastest · 20/08/2013 11:55

oww yes a damn good night! Emotionally won't be going anywhere tho. Something tells me I should be looking properly for an Alpha but don't think I'm ready yet altho I do like the abstract idea of being in love again...later maybe!

Made up for all on this thread- I lurked under another name (mn messed up and had to change it) last year and so many great ladies and gents on here have found love since. It's inspiring for the future.

Flipper934 · 20/08/2013 12:04

Happy birthday, 49!!! Sounds like you are getting the Good Things you deserve Smile.

Lorna, I'd offer to pay for the ticket, but back down graciously if he insisted (and probably feel a bit miffed if he didn't, though that would be unreasonable of me).

Bant, I told you so. There may be no contractual reason to feel guilty, but in your mind you're in a relationship with Mermaid.

Hi, Nora, yep, all good still, getting to know each other. I'm a rubbish judge of character and need to take the emotional side of things slowly as a result, but child care issues make seeing each other a bit tricky, so that suits me.

WFF, well done on the insouciance.

OhWesternWind · 20/08/2013 12:07

Kitty, love, you need to learn to value yourself more. Of course you are the prize. Re-read what Bant said about starting off whittling about whether other people will like you, and ending up wondering whether you will like them. Reading in between the lines, it sounds like you have had a bit of a time of it lately, and it can be so easy for your self-confidence and self-esteem to be knocked and dented. We've all been there. I didn't even think about dating for eighteen months after I split up with my ex, he had done such a number on me and I couldn't believe anyone would ever want me again or that I could have a relationship.

The important thing, though, is to make sure you are happy with and in yourself before you start dating, otherwise you just make yourself a target for people who will sense that you have a low self-esteem and will put up with stuff that other people wouldn't. When I first started dating, I had quite a long relationship with someone who treated me badly, and it took me a while to realise this and to realise I was worth more and not put up with it any more. I wouldn't tolerate anything like that now.

It's worth thinking about what you want from a man and from a relationship - even the simple things like being treated kindly, someone who is reliable and does what he says he'll do, someone who treats you with respect, and making sure that you don't compromise on these things when you're dating. Don't settle for the crumbs off a man's table. You are worth far, far more than that - as are we all.

KinNora · 20/08/2013 12:11

OWW no it wasn't but I wouldn't say no to being bent over backwards on the hostess trolley.

I did just type a longish comment about Apha's results but will probably send it via pm.

Lorna - 'vulgar and over-familiar' really made me laugh, if I didn't know you better I'd think you were a dowager duchess. If Dr Pash has already bought the tickets, I'd accept and just offer him a drink or two.

MsApprehension · 20/08/2013 12:12

Too right OWW

beaglesaresweet · 20/08/2013 12:13

thank you, Wagon!
OhWestern, thanks for reading my post, so in your experience how long do they leave to call you if there is a follow up? The thing is, he asked me to call him if I wanted to (see him again, I assumed) or text because he didn't have my number but I had his. I felt a bit mean that I didn't give him my number at the end of neeting, so instead of calling myself, I e-mailed on the site next day with my number - to which he said he will call, and also that he enjoyedhte meeting too.
Ime if they are not interested at all, they make excuses in the follow up email or just go silent (rare). I felt it was genuine that he intended to call. I just wonder - for someone who possibly haven't done a lot of OD (he may not have done much) - whether it's normal to wait a few days like in olden days, before emails, after a good first meeting? Just goes against the grian of his keenness before the date and on it, with nearly daily emails. Hmm, maybe he does want to meet a few women before jumping into anything - but I wasn't planning to jump, just to have a few social type dates first.

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