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Update on EA

865 replies

faulkernegger · 26/06/2013 13:53

I posted some weeks ago about DP's suspicious friendship, and even though we have talked about it (I've said I feel uncomfortable, children have noticed etc) it's still going on.
He has been attentive and loving, and when I asked if we were ok he looked me in the eye and said 'yes'. However, a few evenings ago about 11pm he took his phone into the loo. When he came out I challenged him - why on earth do you need to take your phone into the loo at 11 o'clock at night? to which he replied - I had it in my pocket on the way upstairs. Well he didn't - it had been on the bedside table. So I said - you;re not telling me the truth and I want you to think about why you're not telling the truth.
A couple of days later he took me aside and said he'd made a decision to step back from this woman, because I clearly thought that 'something' was going on. I felt so relieved.
But, having a gnawing feeling still, I did some checking on his mobile phone bill online ( about the only thing he's forgotten to change his password for) and he seems to have called her more often and for longer, since that conversation!

What do I do now? confront again and ask exactly HOW this is stepping back? or, as my sister says, back off, be sweetness and light and give him more time to end it.
I have been for an initial assessment at Relate to see of there's anything I can do about 'me' that will help the relationship, but I feel there's no point if his mind is elsewhere.
Help!

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 26/09/2013 19:38

Still with you, dusk.

MadAboutHotChoc · 26/09/2013 19:46

Ditto.

Fairenuff · 26/09/2013 19:49

Keep up the cold shoulder at home too. He should stay in the spare room permanently. Don't cook for him or buy food for him. Don't wash his clothes or do anything for him until he stops those lessons.

In the meantime carry on getting all the information you need to eventually make that break, if it's what you decide to do.

YouStayClassySanDiego · 26/09/2013 20:28

Yes, under no circumstances do you and the children leave the family home.

There are posters here worth their weight in gold for advice and happy to help.

Take their advice and don't let him be a prick to you any longer!

BigFellaThanks · 26/09/2013 20:59

The arrogance is breathtaking. I'm sorry he's letting you down again.

I'm sorry you had to endure another week where he's walked out of the door to her house, trampling on your feelings on the way. I don't understand how he can possibly justify this to you or even to himself.

CupOCoffee · 26/09/2013 21:10

What a horrible man! Sorry if I've missed it but has he actually admitted to an emotional affair? Or that it was inappropriate?

He is treating you with such little respect. Personally i think you should tell him to go and stay somewhere else.

lazarusb · 26/09/2013 21:38

I'm glad that you're being more pro-active now too. You do deserve better. I really don't know what it would take to make him see sense, or what you are worth. He really is ensconced in his own little bubble.

We know you are so much better than him! All power to you. Take time off if you need to, put yourself first, because he won't.

(I'm not a violent or aggressive person but I would love to give him a bloody good shake).

ProphetOfDoom · 26/09/2013 22:46

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Tonandfeather · 26/09/2013 22:48

Is this the same counsellor you wre seeing in the summer, or someone different? I'm a bit confused about that.

intheduskwiththelightbehindher · 27/09/2013 07:22

Hi Tone. No, it's a different counsellor; they have a policy that if you've seen someone as an individual, you wouldn't see the same person as a couple for reasons of objectivity and fairness. I think that's right. It just means you have to explain everything again at the start of the session. If I make an appt for both of us and he chooses not to go, that's different.
Am feeling much more chipper today - thanks again for the support! ( I also have some more interesting and challenging students today)

onefewernow · 27/09/2013 08:21

Ah good, so it isn't an issue for you to go back to the same counsellor you saw last week, who will also have met him.

You know it wouldn't surprise me if he decided to go, because he may not like the idea of you going alone to discuss your marriage.

I think it would really accelerate the process of your thinking to do some reading to back up the counselling. Do let me know if you want a list of anything my counsellor recommended.

It could be worse Faulk, although it sounds odd. You have a job, which adds options. Also, you can think of this as a Great Leap Forward in your personal development. For me, despite the pain, I wouldn't lose that.

Loopytiles · 27/09/2013 08:26

Glad you're looking into practicalities. Olgaga on here has posted a lot of links before on preparing for free 30 mins with solicitors, might be useful. Think continuing with the counselling whether or not he joins you could be helpful (as long as the counsellor is good of course!).

Your P really wants this brushed under the carpet, doesn't he!

MissScatterbrain · 27/09/2013 08:35

Google Olgaga for her blog.

captainmummy · 27/09/2013 08:38

I thought things were better now - Why? What's changed? Oh that's right... nothing. Faulk I'm not surprised you're bored with it all, you've been doing the same things, day in day out, trying to get through to him.
Why on earth would he think things are better? Have you shut up about the lessons/her? Is he still in the spare room?

Indifference is deadly.

Glad you are now being practical. At some stage, with all the information available, you may be ready to give this man a dose of reality - a reality where other people exist for more than his ego.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 27/09/2013 09:31

He just wants you to shut up, doesn't he?

God, he barely seems to register you as a person.

clam · 27/09/2013 17:11

Your objections are just background noise to him. He wants you to STFU.

intheduskwiththelightbehindher · 27/09/2013 17:49

onefewer - a list of reading material would be appreciated. I have a few books, but it's worth exploring all viewpoints.
Did a quiz on boundaries - apparently I have 'thin' boundaries. i always thought of myself as easygoing, quite sanguine etc. It seems I just don't say 'no' enough ( and have never done according to the quiz)
Am ready to start on the GLF!!

onefewernow · 27/09/2013 23:39

Cloud and Townsend on Boundaries- when to say yes, how to say no ( a not Christian in tone. ( I'm not) but best book on boundaries.

Frank Pittman - Man Enough and Private Lies.

The John Cleese book with a psychiatrist on Families and how to survive them.

One more, will just look up.

onefewernow · 27/09/2013 23:44

Getting past your break up - Susan Elliott.

Do read this, even if you doubt it will happen . It's like looking over the fence, seeing why you are scared and why you don't need to be . And then, if you decide not to split, you can reassure yourself it wasn't through fear alone.

I think the thin boundaries thing is obvious. He sees it too, sadly.

Don't whip yourself; I've been there too , and better late than never!

onefewernow · 27/09/2013 23:45

" a bit ", rather than. "A not".

intheduskwiththelightbehindher · 28/09/2013 07:16

Cheers.

intheduskwiththelightbehindher · 28/09/2013 07:35

Anyone believe in Karma? Since 'showdown' lots of things have gone wrong, entailing DP having to spend a lot of money/time fixing them. We've had to replace the TV, fridge, car battery, motorbike clutch; there's a wasps nest in the loft and this morning a suspicious gushing from the overflow pipe. Or am I being fanciful?

needasilverlining · 28/09/2013 09:07

Possibly, but I do hope you're doing as little about them as you can get away with Grin

Fairenuff · 28/09/2013 09:13

Everything has a shelf life. Things wear out. Anything else you need to replace while you're at it? Grin

< whistles innocently >

AnyFucker · 28/09/2013 10:13

Good 'un Fair Grin

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