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dp just blew up at me again and im terrified.

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tyedye · 31/05/2006 09:44

Im in trouble again and i want to leave but i cant,i cant protect myself or my kids from it,all verbal so far,feel so bad ive stated cutting myself again.

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blueteddy · 31/05/2006 11:39

I know how it is. Don't beat yourself up.
Emotinal abuse is very hard to see for yourself, as you tend to connect abuse with being physically hurt, but emotional abuse can be just as damaging.
Please talk to someone & get some help for yourself & your children.xx

fattiemumma · 31/05/2006 11:40

OOPS i gave you the wrong number for womens aid (thast the welsh one!)

the correct number is 0808 2000247

i also found this -

What is domestic violence?

In Women's Aid's view domestic violence is physical, sexual, psychological or financial violence that takes place within an intimate or family-type relationship and that forms a pattern of coercive and controlling behaviour. This can include forced marriage and so-called 'honour crimes'. Domestic violence may, and often does, include a range of abusive behaviours, not all of which are, in themselves, inherently 'violent'. Crime statistics and research both show that domestic violence is gender specific (i.e. most commonly experienced by women and perpetrated by men) and that any woman can experience domestic violence regardless of race, ethnic or religious group, class, disability or lifestyle. Domestic violence is repetitive, life-threatening, and can destroy the lives of women and children.

The Government defines domestic violence as "Any incident of threatening behaviour, violence or abuse (psychological, physical, sexual, financial or emotional) between adults who are or have been intimate partners or family members, regardless of gender or sexuality." This includes issues of concern to black and minority ethnic (BME) communities such as so called 'honour killings'. (See www.crimereduction.gov.uk/dv01.htm.)

Domestic violence can also take place in lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender relationships, and can involve other family members, including children.

Domestic violence is very common. Research shows that it can affect one in four women in their lifetimes, regardless of age, social class, race, disability or lifestyle.

All forms of domestic violence - psychological, economic, emotional and physical - come from the abuser's desire for power and control over other family members or intimate partners.

Although every situation is unique, there are common factors that link the experience of an abusive relationship. Acknowledging these factors is an important step in preventing and stopping the abuse.

This list can help you to recognise if you, or someone you know, are in an abusive relationship.

Destructive criticism and verbal abuse: shouting/mocking/accusing/name calling/verbally threatening.
Pressure tactics: sulking; threatening to withhold money, disconnect the telephone, take the car away, commit suicide, take the children away, report you to welfare agencies unless you comply with his demands regarding bringing up the children; lying to your friends and family about you; telling you that you have no choice in any decisions.
Disrespect: persistently putting you down in front of other people; not listening or responding when you talk; interrupting your telephone calls; taking money from your purse without asking; refusing to help with childcare or housework.
Breaking trust: lying to you; withholding information from you; being jealous; having other relationships; breaking promises and shared agreements.
Isolation: monitoring or blocking your telephone calls; telling you where you can and cannot go; preventing you from seeing friends and relatives.
Harassment: following you; checking up on you; opening your mail; repeatedly checking to see who has telephoned you; embarrassing you in public.
Threats: making angry gestures; using physical size to intimidate; shouting you down; destroying your possessions; breaking things; punching walls; wielding a knife or a gun; threatening to kill or harm you and the children.
Sexual violence: using force, threats or intimidation to make you perform sexual acts; having sex with you when you don't want to have sex; any degrading treatment based on your sexual orientation.
Physical violence: punching; slapping; hitting; biting; pinching; kicking; pulling hair out; pushing; shoving; burning; strangling.
Denial: saying the abuse doesn't happen; saying you caused the abusive behaviour; being publicly gentle and patient; crying and begging for forgiveness; saying it will never happen again.
Repeat victimisation is common. 44% of victims of domestic violence are involved in more than one incident. No other type of crime has a rate of repeat victimisation as high (Dodd et al, July 2004).
British Crime Survey research found that "women are most commonly sexually assaulted by men they know". When the researchers asked women about the last incident of rape experienced since the age of 16, they found that 45% were raped by current partners, 11% by former partners, 11% were raped on "dates", 16% by acquaintances and 10% by "other intimates". 8% were raped by strangers (Myhill & Allen, 2002).

Of women who had experienced domestic violence, 25% had never lived with the partner who had committed the worst act of violence against them. (Walby & Allen, 2004).

In a study of 200 women's experiences of domestic violence it was found that 60% of the women had left because they feared that they or their children would be killed by the perpetrator (Humphreys & Thiara, 2002).

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Who are the victims?

Domestic violence can occur regardless of ethnicity, religion, class, age, sexuality, disability or lifestyle. It can also occur in a range of relationships including heterosexual, gay, lesbian, bi-sexual and transgender relationships.

However, whilst both men and women may experience incidents of inter-personal violence, women are considerably more likely to experience repeated and severe forms of violence, including sexual violence. The violence they experience is also more likely to have a sustained psychological/emotional impact or result in injury or death.

3% of women living in refuges were disabled during the year 1997/98, according to a research report detailing a Women's Aid survey of that period (Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, 2002).
Findings from the British Crime Survey (Walby & Allen, 2004) show that:

  • There was little variation in the experience of inter-personal violence by ethnicity.
  • Gender is described as a "significant risk factor" as women are more likely than men to experience interpersonal violence, especially sexual violence.
  • "Women are the overwhelming majority of the most heavily abused group. Among people subject to four or more incident of domestic violence from the perpetrator of the worst incident (singe age 16) 89 per cent were women" (p vii).
  • "…of those women who have been subject to domestic force half (48%) have also been subject to frightening threats and nearly half (41%) to emotional or financial abuse. However, men's experiences are much less nested, that is, of those subject to domestic force, only 9 per cent had also experienced frightening threats and 28 per cent emotional or financial abuse" (p18).
  • 11% of women compared to 1% of men reported frightening threats (since 16 years of age). The researchers commented that "the context of fear is an important element in the understanding of domestic violence as a pattern of coercive control" (p19).
    Intimate violence is one of the principle factors resulting in health inequalities across gender specifically, and forms a significant barrier to women receiving effective and equal health care, as acknowledged in national and international documents throughout the world (World Health Organisation, 2000).
    Research conducted with male respondents to the Scottish Crime Survey 2000 found that men were less likely to have been repeat victims of domestic assault, less likely to be seriously injured and less likely to report feeling fearful in their own homes. The survey retraced men who were counted as victims in the Scottish Crime Survey and found that a majority of the men who said that they were victims of domestic violence, were also perpetrators of violence (13 of 22). A significant number of the men re-interviewed (13 out of 46) later said they had actually never experienced any form of domestic abuse (Scottish Executive Central Research Unit, 2002).

I know its a lot of info to take in but if you have a minute PLEASE read it! as it will help you to see that you are most certainly not alone. yor definatly not some weak victim and that you will absolutly get the help and suport you need

holliec · 31/05/2006 11:51

i know exactly how you feel i am in a similar situation but do not have the drink or self harm problems you have,but i do understand how you can turn to things for emotional numbness.the police came yesterday after another incident and they gave me this number,it is a london centre but if you could talk to them,even cry to them you may feel a bit better inside.my husband is wonderful to the outsidw world and like you i just pray for his mr nice days.
08709220704,this is the domestic violence centre,they offer practical advice and also a shoulder to cry on,24 hours a day.i have still not left my poor excuse of a husband but i hope that maybe not today or this week but one day i will have the strength to do so.all the best.

tyedye · 31/05/2006 12:26

Thank you,and good luck to you too HC,F-mumma,as you posted that i was reading it on the womensaid site!thank you,on one hand i feel sick,reading it was like reading a breakdown of my relationship!on the other i feel a sense of relief,i knew it was abuse,but didnt realise it was recognised like that.I will get in touch with them today,DP just came in and hugged me,bastard,but i know that it will blow again,its several times a week at the moment.

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tyedye · 31/05/2006 12:27

I also now realise that my x was abusive,tho not so extree,AND my stepfather,talk about bloody patterns of behaviour!!!!!!!

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tyedye · 31/05/2006 12:28

So that could mean my sons will abuse,and my daughters will choose abusive partners?!........

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fattiemumma · 31/05/2006 12:30

I have very confidence you will be able to break free.
you already recognise what is happening is wrong and you can see that even though he reverts back to happy smily freindly self soon after, this will continue to happen.

good luck with speaking to WA ( not that you'll need it as tehy are brilliant) and do keep us informed of how your doing.

if you want to chat off board im more than happy to give you my email addy

fattiemumma · 31/05/2006 12:32

NO! because you see teh cycle and will do everythign in your power to break it!

what they say is that when abuse is left to continue children grow up thinking its normal and ok.

by making steps to remove yoursefl and your children from that risk you are telling them that its worng, and taht its not acceptable.

trust me your kids will remember your strength before his weakness!

tyedye · 31/05/2006 12:37

This thread has been very cathartic,incredibly so,i have felt trapped and nervous for years,im 2 stone overweight thru booze and comfort eating,grey-haired,im an artist but do nothing as im not allowed to,any freetime means i could be decorating,weeding or preferably shagging(sorry!)
Ive lost touch with no end of friends etc.....Its given me hope,collective cyber hug to all of you.Thank you.x

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 31/05/2006 12:45

So that could mean my sons will abuse,and my daughters will choose abusive partners?!

They are more likely to do so if you stay.

If you leave him there will be less damage done to your children. You have shown them that it is okay to leave someone who is being abusive to them.

Longer term as well it may well be useful to have some counselling for your own self to break the destructive relationship patterns you have found yourself to be in.

glitterfairy · 31/05/2006 14:44

Womens Aid give free counselling I have a brilliant counsellor who ahs changed my life and stopped me always feeling guilty for things I cannot control.

Part of the problem is that many women are rescuers and tend to try and help people whenever they can. This can lead to the feeling that it is us not trying rather than them being abusive which is the problem.

Glad you like my name tyedye. I got tons of support on here and although I cannot post much at the moment due to court battles I still lurk to get strength.

In the end it is support you need whatever your decision. Take time to make any decisions and do not feel pressured by everyone elses condemnation of your partner it has to be up to you. Recognising his problems will help but dont try to solve them for him. You must put yourself and the kids first now. That for me was the hardest thing to do.

tyedye · 31/05/2006 14:46

Thanks glitterfairy,im in touch with WA now.x

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blueteddy · 31/05/2006 14:57

Wow! Well done, tyedye.xx

tribpot · 31/05/2006 18:33

Well done tyedye, hope you can get some support. I know it's hard for a person with chronic pain to act rationally all the time, I would be a lousy patient myself (my dh is stoic about the pain but often very depressed and withdrawn). It doesn't excuse your dp's behaviour, you have rights too.

Hope the GP visit is useful, pain medication alone is not the answer (I have discovered to my bitter cost) and it sounds like it's essential he get some psychological support if he is going to learn to adapt.

glitterfairy · 01/06/2006 17:24

Well done tyedye how did it go?

tyedye · 02/06/2006 13:16

I need to talk to them properly next week when all kids back to school,Still getting very regular grief from ex-dp too,maybe i will do a Reggie Perrin?!

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tyedye · 02/06/2006 13:58

Ive e-mailed womensaid.

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blueteddy · 02/06/2006 14:07

How are things, tyedye?

tyedye · 02/06/2006 14:11

Hi BT,the usual,shouting at me cos someone left honey on the chopping boardwasinthebathroomwhenhewantedtowashhishandsleftshoesuntidyANDHAVEYOUSEENHISROOM!!!!!!

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blueteddy · 02/06/2006 14:13

Oh dear, things aren't much better then?Sad
Is he like this a lot?
Poor you.

tyedye · 02/06/2006 14:15

Its becoming virtually constant,but gp gave him some stronger painkillers today,so im hoping that will give all of us some respite.Sad

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blueteddy · 02/06/2006 14:18

Oh dear. How horrible. Is his temper all related to his illness?
It really sounds hard for you. It is no way to have to live.Sad
Glad you have contacted WA though. Were they helpful?

kokeshi · 02/06/2006 14:24

Hi tyedye,
just wanted to check in and let you know I'm thinking of you...I'm so glad you've found the courage and strength to take steps for yourself. You deserve so much better than this, you are an amazing person and shouldn't be made to feel small by a bully. I haven't been on the alcohol thread for a couple of weeks, but I've been having a look now and again. We buried my uncle last week and I think it's just taking time to sink in. You've received some fantastic advice in here from those who've made those changes. Mumsnet is a fantastic source of support.

Much love xxxx

tyedye · 02/06/2006 14:25

To be honest,having read WA website,i think the behaviour is there anyway,as he can "pretend"to be normal socially,i am still reeling from losing the only excuse i have been able to hang onto all these years for how he behaves.Hes not mentally ill,as he can function socially,he chooses to treat us like this.He CAN help himself,he just doesnt want to.I feel thoroughly heartsick.

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tyedye · 02/06/2006 14:27

Oh Hi kokeshi!Thank you honey,hope you are ok,i was going to email you today if i get a chance,hes at the osteopaths at the moment.Much love to you.xx

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