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Birthday....

249 replies

theendishere · 10/10/2012 07:26

I've been seeing someone for about 4 months. It's my birthday in a few weeks and a month or so ago he suggested going away to a nice hotel overnight near the date to celebrate it. Since he first mentioned it he's not said any more about it and he can't ne planning a surprise as i have to plan in advance and my son will be with me on the actual day, so he can't be planning it for then.
last night i mentioned by texr that my son would be away with his dad the weekend before my birthday plus another couple of days and it would be good to arranged to see eachother more (didn't mention bday at this point). His text in reply said he was going to watch his beloved team palying football on the saturday but would be good to do things the rest of the time (the sunday and monday morning are out as he'll have his kids then). So i appears that the hotel stay isn't happeneing! I'd really hoped i'd see him on the sat before my birthday, regardless of what we were doing. I send a text ust saying "footbal on my birthday weekend!!! I think i'll forgive you"x" he hasn't replied. Due to see him later but worried i shouldn't have sent the text or mentioned my birthday...

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TicketToHull · 28/10/2012 14:35

I agree with stuffit, he isn't a distraction because you seem really emotionally involved and it's not coming across as a fun, easy good-time situation at all.

I remember having this conversation about a boyfriend when I was 17 with my friends. I tried to convince them that they didn't know the whole picture and couldn't imagine how well suited we were to each other despite me not being able to give them concrete reasons of why he was good for me or think up any good qualities for him when asked.

He turned out to be a colossal waste of time, and I look back and can't see how I hung on for so long when it was so obvious that he wasn't even remotely interested, and more importantly, interesting. He had nothing to offer me other than something to focus on, but even then it only caused more angst and anxiety.

theendishere · 28/10/2012 21:26

Yes, you're proabably all right about him - other than swallowedafly who thinks i love the drama.
i just want normal, even what might seem 'boring ' for a while..

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NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 28/10/2012 21:42

Maybe you just dont know what normal is any more, obsessing this much over a birthday and a man.

Really, you need to get a grip. Sorry, but you do.

stuffitunderthebed · 28/10/2012 21:45

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theendishere · 28/10/2012 22:10

You could be right that i have no idea anymore what "normal" is. It's such a long time since i've experienced anything approaching "normal"
Would love to be able to have a quiet calm day with my boy in out won house, with none of ex's stuff, presence around us. Im happy for ds to see ex but just can't bear to share the same living space as us. And i know the guy i;m seeing is a total waste of time. Had a few domestic maintenance issues today (ex away) - no offeer of helpt from supposed bf and when i said "wft are we texting" he said he was half way thru a fil he'd paid £4.99 for, Nevr mind i'm freezing my arse off, havent seen eachother for a week. Also STILL no idea what/if he has planned for my bday - should i just leave it for tell him i hav other people to see...

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CuriousMama · 28/10/2012 22:27

You sound so like an ex friend of mine. She was 50 and went on like you. I was so exhausted by it all. You are obsessed and it isn't healthy.

I just hope you put your dcs first as she didn't.

Helltotheno · 28/10/2012 23:07

Also STILL no idea what/if he has planned for my bday

You're STILL waiting for him to do something for your birthday?? Lordy Lord but you don't take hints easily do you? I think you've got lots of advice and basically not listened to any of it.
You can't be paying too much attention to your kid when you're obsessing like about an obvious non-starter...

FlatCapAndAWhippet · 29/10/2012 04:37

I have honestly never heard a grown woman obsess so much over her birthday and a man who treats her like dirt.

Will you please stop whingeing on about your birthday.

Wise up and focus on the important one, your child.

swallowedAfly · 29/10/2012 08:00

i didn't say you loved the drama i said 'if' you love it. continuing on and on and on with it and constantly feeding the fire with obsessing and texting and ra ra ra would seem to suggest you do though.

if you didn't you'd end it.

NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 29/10/2012 08:12

I bet he loves the feeling of control. Having you like a quivering questioning, second guessing wreck, wondering what WILL he do for my birthday. Will he don ANYTHING for my birthday.

Please make plans with somebody else. This man is all words and no action. He just isnt really keen on you.

MorrisZapp · 29/10/2012 09:33

All words and no action is one thing. This guy is very few words and no action.
I've seen my friend go through this stuff over and over again. You set some imaginary test or deadline, in this case your birthday, and then stick your fingers in your ears and go LA LA LA so you don't have to face reality until test day arrives.

When it does, he fails. But then you set him a new imaginary test deadline and it's back to business as usual, until one of you meets somebody more promising.
Op, there are no mixed messages here. He wants to have no strings sex. That is the message. You'll hear it when you're ready, which may be a while yet. Good luck.

QuickLookBusy · 29/10/2012 10:57

You've had some fantastic advice but you seem to be ignoring it all.

I agree with others that you need to STOP obsessing with this man. He isn't right for you, forget all the ins and outs of the situation, he's just not right. End the relationship and give yourself some space to get over your divorce.

I also think you need counselling, it really is not normal for a grown women to be so fixated on a birthday like this. Honestly my own teenage DDs dont get so obsessed. You're fixating on that one day to the detriment of your whole life and that of your DCs.

Please get some help on rl so your can talk through everything.

theendishere · 01/11/2012 22:21

Yep most of you are right. He's told me he doesn't think he can give any more than he is - regardless of when im finally living alone. Think my "situation" suited him. He even had the nerve to say we didn't see eachother more "because i didn't mention it and we didn't talk about it!!!

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Doha · 01/11/2012 22:30

So what you going to do about it?
Have you dumped him?

theendishere · 01/11/2012 22:35

not yet - think i should though, unless i can see him in a "detached" way like he seems to see me

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Doha · 01/11/2012 22:40

I am really surprised that you haven't dumped him yet, Are you happy to settle for a part time relationship with someone who blows hot and cold, doesn't follow through with his plans and has told you that the wee part that you have of him is all you are ever going to get.

Are you that desperate that you will settle for so little,

Surely you can see that you deserve so much better.

ErikNorseman · 02/11/2012 06:54

You clearly can't be detached about him though can you?

FermezLaBouche · 02/11/2012 08:25

If you don't mind trawling through, I'd like to share my experiences.

I have a history of picking fuckwits, quite frankly. From the age of 18 to about 25 I was literally desperate. Every man I met I decided I fancied, and the more loserish ones would prey upon that. Usually men a lot older who were still single. I went for these emotional losers every time, including ones who treated me like your chap. One man I met online had blatantly lied about his age and used a VERY old picture, but when he realised I was desperate (and men DO spot desperation in a woman a mile off,) he initiated a relationship on the most ludicrous terms, knowing I would do anything to keep it going.

These included only coming round friday and saturday nights for food, wine and sex, never letting me meet his friends, never going to his house, never letting us go out - everything that should have been normal in a relationship, he vetoed. Now, I am a fairly intelligent woman - but the brain is very good at convincing you that this is fine, it's fine, it's fine.... and in rare moments of honesty it tries to deceive you that even if he's not right, you can keep him just for now until someone better comes along. This is not possible - it just teaches you to put up with shit, walk on eggshells, worry about idiotic things like what to text to avoid pissing him off and finally be dumped when he's had enough.

I have been single for about 3 years now and can honestly say I love it. Men have come into my life, but I am now a lot quicker at spotting the red flags. "Let's keep this secret, shall we?" - RED FLAG. "My nutty bitch ex keeps texting me" - RED FLAG. "I can't commit to a proper relationship but I'd love to come over now and again" .... you get the picture. ALL things I have heard men say in my desperate years and still would have thought "I just need to keep it going."

You are not happy with yourself and for want of a better word, you are damaged. You don't think enough of yourself to expect the very highest standards in a man. It was so telling when you mentioned the other bloke possibly interested in you. Why do you have to have male interest in your life?

I think posters have got frustrated because the thing you've said most frequently on this thread is, "I know you're right." But you don't act on any advice given. I know you won't follow this suggestion, but the strongest thing I can say to you is be single for a while, build up an interesting life for yourself.... any man you then choose to be with should fit in with YOU and enhance your life. No eggshells, no desperately clinging, no putting up with bullshit.

Hope you see sense and dump this idiot. Well done if you trawled through these ramblings.

ScarahScreams · 02/11/2012 08:33

He is just using you for regular sex.
You are his beck and call girl and he doesn't give a crap about you beyond that. Worst thing is he doesn't even have to try to be nice to you to get what he wants. He treats you mean and keeps you do keen as your threads prove.
Please get some councelling for the sale of your son. You should be focussing on him at this time as you say he is happy but he will be picking up on this crap.

stuffitunderthebed · 03/11/2012 00:21

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theendishere · 03/11/2012 12:28

Birthday has been and gone now

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TheSilverPussycat · 03/11/2012 13:35

teih I lived with my stbx and then ex for a year getting divorced and doing the settlement -it was extremely stressful but better than when I was trying to keep the marriage going. My distractions were my friends and MN.

I find myself wondering whether you are unconsciously trying to prove something to your ex - that you are still an attractive woman who other blokes want.

I hope you had a good birthday. As others have said, the way forward is to bin your current bloke and take time to reconnect with the real you. She is the person who needs to re-emerge before you can have a real relationship with a nice man.

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theendishere · 03/11/2012 15:50

SilverPussey - it;s awful isn't it, living with stbx while divore, etc sorted
Guess his birthday card to me kind of shows how he sees me too - fun jokey sort of card, no hint of romance to it and not even a "love from"

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