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Upset :(

274 replies

thekidsmum218 · 21/09/2012 16:48

Hi all.
I'm new to mumsnet so i hope i'm posting in the right place. Here goes..
In August i was 30, normally i dread birthdays but i was really excited about this one. I had been going on about it to my OH all year lol.
He had promised to take me away for the weekend and he said he was going to spoil me. Instead he went on his mates stag weekend a few days before and then on my birthday he seen me for maybe 5 minutes, in his car!
He got me nothing, just a card because he said he had no money. Even though he could afford to go abroad with his mates and he's at the pub every weekend.

He said he was going to make it up to me and he was going to take me out last week, instead he went white water rafting with his mates. He thinks i'm making a big deal out of it but he has really hurt me. His mums birthday is a week after mine and he managed to get her a gift. Am i being daft?

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Jux · 22/09/2012 14:46

Did you get Women's Aid? Hope you're OK.

I don't know if this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1486120-Normal-relationships might help you see how far off normal your relationship is.

MrsMeow · 22/09/2012 15:59

OP,I don't often post on r'ships as don't know the right things to say, but I've just read your thread with tears in my eyes. You poor poor love to have put up with this for so many years :(

I've just read where you live. I live not far from Chester and am from there originally. I also come from a place where the life you're living is absolutely "the norm" and most of the men were/are cavemen (it begins with B - im sure you'll know it) so I have some idea of how you're feeling. Luckily I seem to have broken the cycle and met a decent man. There ARE decent men out there.

Please PM me if you want to chat. Although I'm afraid I can't match UAs lovely offer of rock pooling, I can offer wine and choc and a shoulder to cry on. And I'm sure we can all budge up and make room if you need to get away from home for a while :)

Stay strong. You can do so much better than this.

AnyFucker · 22/09/2012 18:04

how lovely, MrsM

I have come back to see if OP has been back on. She mentioned a friends wedding was today. I really hope she hasn't gone with him, as a couple but expect that she has

I think that is why she has gone quiet, and I really hope she can come back to her thread and tell us she is ok

MrsMeow · 22/09/2012 18:29

I hope not either AF :( let us know that you're ok, OP?

HissyByName · 22/09/2012 19:13

Thanks for the nudge AF! I did see this thread when it was first written, and with hindsight ought to have known it was one of these threads, the one that start out as one thing and end up another.

I can't better any of the advice given to you here, but I will tell you that 2 years ago I was in a similar situation, terrified that I'd be left alone by someone who was just so unpredictably vile and or fairly nice to me. I felt at times as if I'd gone mad, I took ADs early on, but realised my panic wasn't irrational and something I could medicate, as there was real fear. In the end I gave up my life as An independent person, so he calmed down and I managed life.

There was the 3yrs in his country, a sentence imposed upon me by him, in almost complete isolation, but constant nasty/nice cycle. I was surrounded by the locals, all abusing their wives/kids, so it was normal, and there was no support.

2 years ago, through MINUTE I knew that what was happening to me was wrong, was not my fault, and that I had to do something about it.

Ex at the same time was threatening to leave, I was petrified, but somehow knew he had to go.

His leaving was physically excruciating, but rapidly, as you are seeing, the benefits of him going are becoming apparent to you.

After a few non-months, where I just put my one foot in front of the other, clinging to the only support in my life (MN), the fog and the darkness really began to lift. Many of those I owe so much to are here on this thread btw, I'll be forever grateful to them for their kindness.

My family all threw me under the bus, couldn't get away from me fast enough. I had no-one in RL.

With MN cheering me on, I read Why Does He Do That, I called WA, but just to give me the strength to call up and book myself onto The Freedom Programme, and eventually I've done counselling.

18m after he left, my life is unrecognisable, I'm no longer agoraphobic, I now have a FT job, am getting by, and actually started to think about dating again at the end of last year. I'm now 5m in to a superbly wonderful and loving relationship with the nicest man I've ever met.

I have days where I pinch myself. It's a far cry from being locked up in a flat with no phone, telly, internet or anything for 10wks, or being hit for asking for my own money back. That was the old me. It'll never happen again.

You're not mad, you're not depressed. You're life is being subjected to emotional terrorism.

You got him out of your home, now all you have to do is keep him out and in a year or so, you could feel like I do. I wish this happiness and freedom for everyone. Living a life of normal is the most wonderful thing there is! I'm like a toddler sometimes, wide-eyed with wonder at how good life CAN really be! I wouldn't be here without MN,of this I'm certain.

I"m not superwoman, I'm just like you, and I'll be here for you, whenever you need to be heard, as will all the others. You've got MN in your corner now love, you can't lose!

((((hugs))))

HissyByName · 22/09/2012 19:15

MINUTE is MN on my phone btw!

garlicnutty · 22/09/2012 20:21

Hi, TKM. I've got nothing to add to your already excellent replies, just wanted to let you know I'm reading and hoping you will talk to Womens Aid. Another number to try is Respect. They are the support agency for abusive men, and can't offer any practical help to women, but can be very illuminating on the subject of 'difficult' men.

Napsalot · 22/09/2012 20:44

I am no expert in this field but from an outsiders perspective, the abnormal seems to have become the normal for you.

The fake wedding proposal is so incredibly mean spirited -my jaw dropped too -and that's not the worst thing you have endured. People in loving relationships don't do these things. You are not to blame and it may take time and perspective for you to realize this.

I am sure if it were easy for you to move on you would have done it already. I really feel for you.

Please know that there are many people on here willing you to succeed in making this step forward. (I don't live in the UK so I can literally say people all around the world are wishing you well).

AnyFucker · 22/09/2012 21:19

OP, please come back, if only to read the messages you have missed this evening x

RiaOverTheRainbow · 22/09/2012 21:26

This is the most disturbing thread I've ever read :(

Hope you're doing ok OP, I've PMed you x

AnyFucker · 22/09/2012 21:36

I am hoping Op is just at her friends wedding and will check back in when she can

CinnamonPreztel · 22/09/2012 22:19

Another long time lurker here- I live in Chester, if you ever want a friendly ear would be more than happy to be there. Your thread has really moved me, as have the responses by all other MNetters. For every twat, I like to think there's a handful of amazing people. People care- strangers care- you do not need him.

CinnamonPreztel · 22/09/2012 22:24

If there are enough of us around Chester... I think we could find this fucker and see how brave he is then. You in, MrsMeow? ;)

Really hope you're ok OP...

GhouliaYelps · 22/09/2012 22:30

You poor girl. I don't know what to say other than there is hope and a way out of this for you sweetheart.

UnlikelyAmazonian · 22/09/2012 23:15

Thinking of you thekidsmum and really hoping you're alright.

You've been brave to come here and start reaching out. This should be the beginning of a new and happier life for you.

There are many wise MNtters are on here who can offer advice - emotional and practical - based on experience.

Do post again when you can.

whethergirl · 22/09/2012 23:20

How did the wedding go OP? Please come back and let us know.

memorylapse · 22/09/2012 23:41

I have only just read this thread and am in total shock..In May I finally got out of what had been a long term emotionally abusive marraige, very much with the help of mumsnetters on here, my H had been having an emotional affair for two years yet refused to move out, I moved with the help of my local WA who were amazing and I am still being supported by them and currently waiting to attend the freedom problem. I did not realise that I was being abused, it is only now that I realise. Like your partner, mine still tries to manipulate and upset me from a difference. I am 8 miles from Chester on the N Wales side, if you want any advice, please do pm me..

MrsMeow · 23/09/2012 10:21

CinnamonPretzel, I'm in if you are!

I bet he would shit himself when confronted by women that he hasn't been able to crush over the years though. He's a coward.

OP, I hope you're ok this morning? How was the wedding?

dysfunctionalme · 23/09/2012 12:32

I feel a bit worried about some of the advice posted on here such as change the locks, tell him where to go etc. We're talking about a very cruel and violent thug who is likely to exact revenge for any perceived slight, nevermind outright rejection.

And we know that the most dangerous time for a battered woman is the few weeks after she leaves the relationship.

OP do keep trying women's aid for practical advice; we really want you to be safe. x

HissyByName · 23/09/2012 16:25

Battered woman?

What? Is it 1975?

dysfunctionalme · 23/09/2012 23:04

*Battered woman?

What? Is it 1975?*

Sadly it is in some women's lives. Maybe you need to read the thread before posting stupid remarks.

DixieD · 23/09/2012 23:20

If you have read the thread dysfunctionalme you would see that Hissy has indeed read the thread and posted a lengthy reply to OP. if you had read her earlier reply you would know she has a lot of personal experience about what these women's lives are like.
I can't speak for her but I suspect her problem is with the phrase 'battered women' to describe women in abusive relationships.
Maybe you should go back and read the thread properly?

SlightlyJaded · 24/09/2012 00:30

OP. Have been following your thread and really hope you are ok and that the day at at the wedding didn't escalate into something ugly.

Someone upthread said something along the lines of "leaving him probably feels like 'pie in the sky' for you" and I have a feeling that's the truest thing that's been said here. I think sometimes you get so worn down, so entrenched in the cycle of abuse, that just keeping your head above water feels
like a victory. Any more than that feels
like the kind of steps 'other people' might be able to take but not you.

The fact that you have a job and are raising three DC against the odds
tells me that you are stronger than you realise and you need to use this momentum that you've found to keep propelling yourself forward. You don't have to do it with guns blazing, you don't have to even do it with any confidence, switch onto autopilot if you have to, but force yourself
to call WA (if you haven't already) tomorrow and just keep taking small steps to end this forever.

Your friends mean well but if they are in a similar situation, I'm afraid their judgement is clouded. Like you, they have been conditioned into thinking this is normal.

We're all telling you it isn't.

It's far from normal

And as well as making a better life for you and your DC, your bravery might pave the way for som of your friends. So, OP, whilst I think a 'different' life does probably feel like a pipe dream, if you keep being brave, it can be yours.

Listen to the wise women on here and don't be shy/afraid to accept an offer of RL support. God knows you need it.

I wish you so much luck. I feel utterly helpless and desperate on your behalf.

AnyFucker · 24/09/2012 09:57

OP, you still around ?

thekidsmum218 · 24/09/2012 13:01

Sorry it's took awhile for me to get back and comment.
The wedding went brilliantly really, my oh was really nice most of the day.
I got a bit emotional seeing all the other couples loved up and they all seemed happy. It's just a very confusing time for me :(
I tried to ring womans aid but i put the phone down because i just don't know what to say x

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