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Huffy, illiterate men, scared of peas, it's a weird, weird dating world (No22)

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ChaoticismyLife · 11/09/2012 15:10

Oh, watch...you mentioned flowers Grin

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snapespeare · 27/09/2012 15:06

yoga! good luck! :)

doingit you seem to have your head screwed on :)

thank you as ever, for lovely notebook comments - I'm finding it hard to think of another 17 pages (is it 16 now?) I have some vague plans, but I'll need to start googling frantically...

Movingforward123 · 27/09/2012 15:39

yoga good luck Smile

Well I defiantly wouldn't fall apart if i didn't see him again! So I will see how it goes!! My 2 long term bf I slept with first time I met them Blush if the passion is there might as well go for it!!

I'm slightly worried about wobbly bits Confused

OhWesternWind · 27/09/2012 15:49

Yoga loads of luck, knock 'em dead!

Snape any way you could do a kind of "to be continued" thing and fill in the rest of the pages once the book has done its work and you are in total loved up bliss later?

Dinner date tonight - having huge clothes crisis. Boils down to either boho type black dress or dark jeans and pretty top. Restaurants quite expensive but not formal so don't want to get it wrong either way! Clothes huh.

OhWesternWind · 27/09/2012 15:56

Sorry, Moving, I was going to say don't sweat the wobbly bits, but that doesn't sound quite right. You know what i mean though and he will be so chuffed that he's got you in his bed the last thing anyone will be thinking of is a bit of wobble. I used to have a lot of hang ups about my body - got it down to one now (feet) so that's not too bad, and I've realised that worrying about things isn't going to change them and all that happens is I look the same physically and have a worse time mentally. I never heard of anyone chucking someone because of a bit of wobble or bad feet btw! If you feel like doing it, then go on and do it good and proper Grin

NicholasTeakozy · 27/09/2012 16:47

Hope the interview went ok Yoga.

Moving, honestly don't worry about wobbly bits. He won't care.

Western, good luck tonight. Jeans and a nice top is lovely.

DoingItForMyself · 27/09/2012 18:14

I'm going jeans and a nice(ish!) top, Western, although its a fairly casual restaurant for me - I would feel out of place anywhere posh! I might be tempted to go for the dress if I were you though.

Have had to borrow a coat from my friend as mine are all really scruffy - next thing on the shopping list! Costing me a bloody fortune this dating lark.

Let us know how it went then Yoga!

I will be off in a while, but will update you with my POF tale of disaster later! unless I'm too busy shagging him

Movingforward123 · 27/09/2012 18:39

western I would go with the jeans and top Wink

And I hope you are both right about wobbly bits! Although no one has ever complained I just don't like it myself!!

Movingforward123 · 27/09/2012 18:39

doingit good luck!! Smile

OhWesternWind · 27/09/2012 18:50

Jeans and top it is then, with knee boots. I am just so damned gorgeous he will swoon at my feet whoever I'm wearing (or something). Children are having their tea and in starving!!!

My house is a building site -literally - so no chance we'll end up back here. May have to have a little cwch in his car or on the corner. I am just sooooo teenage!!

hatesponge · 27/09/2012 19:12

Good luck on tonight's dates western and doing :) will await a full update later!

I agree about wobbly bits, honestly don't worry. I take the view a man should be so bloody grateful to have got me into bed that he wouldn't care if I am not supermodel perfect :)

Yogagirlscaredofpeas · 27/09/2012 19:27

Good luck to all those on dates!!! They definitely won't care about what top your wearing or about wobbly bits. Just have fun.

Interview was great. I was awesome. (If it was a date there definitely would have been some serious snogging.Grin) Lasted an hour and a half, got a tour and an invitation to come back and spend a few hours in the offices next week but don't know anything for sure yet. Keeping everything crossed though as its the first thing I've come across for months and months that I actually want as opposed to something that would just pay the bills.

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/09/2012 20:43

yoga - thats great, sounds really promomising :)

doing - have a good time...

western - you too.

pah to wobbly bits, men love them :)

Heard from beard again today, he does seem nice, and like we have lots in common, quite looking forward to sat, do feel a little bit guilty over mr puppy l.
Essentially im doing what i despise, but its just tea, right? or am i going to burn in the depths of hell?

i do know the answer to this, i do know its wrong

Yogagirlscaredofpeas · 27/09/2012 21:25

Thanks for your help watch. Smile

You are not going to burn in hell - it's just tea! But that doesn't mean you shouldn't stop teasing the puppy.

Message from someone new on GS who hasn't figured out you can't just send someone your email address. Oh well.

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/09/2012 21:44

im not teasing him as such, i DO like him, and i DO enjoy spending time with him ( just not more than twice a week) I just know that for lots of reasons, its not going to work for me long term.
Like, this happened tuesday and it bugged the shit out of me, please feel free to tell me im impossible to please;
he has a pay as you go phone, hes always topping up so i have been saying he should get a contract. Needless to say he hasnt actually done anything about it. So, tuesday, after talking about my upgrade etc, i said he should just phone them, see what they can do for him. I had to dial it and put it in his hand. He spoke to them and told them he topped up £10 a month, they laughed and said from his account they can see its £15 a week. But he truely believed it was only £10 a month. He decided a contract with a phone was too expensive, even though its cheaper than what he is currently paying, so decided to go with sim only for 10.50 a month. And because he had some save for your new phone fund with them, he is getting 9 months of it for free. He has had pay as you go for 11 years. said he never even considered looking at a contract as he had decided it was cheaper on pay as you go.
insane.
and then i feel like his mother.
like i explained to my friend, it makes me feel like the grown up and him the child. Obviously hes not Always so crap, but it does do my head in. And i know long term i cant comitt and have no desire to compromise that much. If that makes any sense?

hatesponge · 27/09/2012 21:45

Yoga well done on the interview, fingers crossed :)

Watch it's only tea. and I'm sorry but I think MrL rather deserves it for all his past misdemeanours. You probably should try and get rid of him though, even if things with the Beard don't pan out.

I gave some (I think) very good advice to a friend earlier, you would all be proud of me :) - she is v down about dating, and feels she is doing something wrong. So this is what I said to her : 'It isn't you. Honestly it isn't. Trust me on that. I have done the whole if only I was thinner or prettier or funnier or better company, or if I played harder to get or whatever. But truly it makes sod all difference. There are a lot of crappy men out there who would make shitty useless boyfriends. Think of it as a lucky escape. You are fab and one day the right man will see and appreciate that I promise'

Just hoping it made her feel better!

snapespeare · 27/09/2012 22:17

Fargggh of a day. I'm currently working in London, but have a house in Scotland that my ex lives in since he broke up with his gf. he doesn't pay rent at the moment. It's on the market, but not selling. Work pays my London rent. Work is going to stop paying my London rent in mid October. This is all very complicated, but basically my lodger just moved out, so I'm losing £400 a month, so gym membership is going at end October. Sad now, even with getting rent from the ex and housing benefit (& how fucked up is that? High-flying civil servant getting housing benefit...) I'm still about £300 a month down. That's my wine bill. (joke) Next job is dream job. Can't move back to Scotland. DD is halfway through A levels, we moved halfway through her GCSEs & that was difficult... And there aren't any jobs for me in Scotland.

So I told PM. Lots of 'we'll get through it' type texts, had to pick up DD & DS 2 from school, he tagged along, came to school... All the kids were 'your mum is SO cool... Is that your dad?' Hmm drove back, PM told DD that because flatmate had left, he was moving in (shreik!!!) then we went around the garage, talking in deep south accents, dropped him off, Ds2 was dancing with him in the street... (sigh)

Then went to the chip shop and someone threw an egg at (still) dancing Ds2 (fuck of a day) texted PM, eventually said, 'thank you for this, because it's been a shit of a day & for all I whine on about being independent, it would be so nice to come home to someone & be soothed and this is the next best thing'

PM: sleep tight, you. All will be fine, we'll make sure of it.

Christ. I'm married or something. This is so confusing. Sad

watch go for tea. Fucksake. One life. Will you be old and grey with mrL? Will you be sitting in your rocking chairs, wearing slackers on the porch and drinking rum when you're 60? No. You won't. Live your life. Drown the puppy.

(sorry. Long. Weird day.)

snapespeare · 27/09/2012 22:25

*slackers- slanket.

watchoutforthatsnail · 27/09/2012 22:47

:)

lol.

snape, fuck of a day. how come they are going to stop paying your rent? thats rather unfair....its easy to be in a high flying job ( or indeed any job) and still be on hb, its the situation of only having one wage and its a fuck. Makes you feel like you arent doing well enough, or, at least, it makes me feel that way. ( because i get topped up with HB) Have no advice, only :( and sorry you had such a shit day. he loves you you know

Sponge - so, the same advice we give you then :) its becuse its bloody right. she wont belive you though.........

no, wont be growning old with mrl. in no possible universe. He just called because he lost something in the cinema, yesterday he lost something at work, the day before he lost something at home... hours spent searching for crap that if he looked after, or was even aware of, instead of wandering about in a dream like state, he would find, instantly, see, childlike. Scrap that, DD doesnt lose stuff that frequently.

snapespeare · 27/09/2012 22:49

sponge excellent advice. Truly. I went through a period of looking at couples and thinking 'ohmygodlookathim! Look at her! Eww!' (am nowhere near as nice as my online persona) and you know what?, the kind of man that only wants a woman because of how she looks, will probably move on. Everything unimportant fades. Tits sag. Bellys flop. Cellulite creeps in and marks you like an archeological dig. If someone 'gets you' they just get you. Nothing you do or don't do has anything to do with who you are. We are all magnificent, complicated, alluring. Everyone has that amazing thing that makes them different and loveable and worth being with. It just takes someone equally different and loveable to be worth being with.

Yoga! Go yoga! :-)

hatesponge · 27/09/2012 22:53

Watch you see, I do pay attention to the stuff you all tell me! And I do believe it though I didnt for a long time hence me saying it to others :)

snape that is rubbish re the financial stuff.

And yay for PM, but also at the same time, this kind of is when rather than supportive texts, he actually needs to be sweeping you into his arms, brushing your hair out of your eyes, and telling you that it's always been you, and it will all be ok...

Sorry, I watch (and read) far too much crappy romance Grin

hatesponge · 27/09/2012 23:04

Snape I truly heart your last post, it's completely true. It's not about being better than other people (which I struggle with because I am absurdly competitive and have to always think I am the best at everything), just finding the one you are right for and who is right for you.

I know on the one occasion I was truly in love, I knew that he loved me just as I was, good or bad. I once said to him about losing weight and that he might fancy me more (I was much fatter then) and he said 'it isn't about that' and it truly wasn't, not for him. Everything I did, everything I was, impressed and interested him - I felt exactly the same way. And when I was sad or in a strop he was the first and only person who has ever known properly how to deal with me.

And one day I will find that with someone else. We all will :)

snapespeare · 27/09/2012 23:09

watch seriously. Bin. Bin properly. Do not listen to your foof, it's only thinking of itself. If you want to have a sibling for Dd, that might happen. Don't date one. Could you have kids with mr L. No. Thought not. Bin! Bin!!!

:) at losing things. pM lost his ring. I turned the house upside down as its special to him. No ring. He eventually found it and my heart danced, this is maybe a bit different to you and mrL... Hmm

sponge. I think he's scared. Maybe. I'm a bit scared, meh.

OhWesternWind · 27/09/2012 23:13

Lovely date, lovely man, a really good laugh and nice food too. Date 3 next week ... Said I will go over to his village as he's come to my town this time so I wonder what that will involve??!! Honestly it was so frustrating tonight not to have a place to go, all the neighbours were probably curtain twitching as well cos we parked outside my house for a while. Ho hum.

Yogagirlscaredofpeas · 27/09/2012 23:15

Aw, snape, sorry such a messed up day.

Yay sponge - great advice!

Watch - bin mr l and get an actual puppy.

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