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Help me, please

185 replies

lionsgorawr · 04/09/2012 13:15

I'm considering leaving my partner as I am so unhappy with our life. He hardly helps out, wont look for a job and is now being MADE to by the JC and I feel like everything is left to me...Especially taking care of our 14mo DD. Also he can be the most horrible person I've ever met by saying things he knows hurts me like how my own brother probably crashed his car and died to get away from me and my mother.
What terrifies me is I have history of PND and I hold my hands up and admit I have raised my voice on more than one occasion to my DD. He has already told me if I ever tried to leave him he would tell any lie possible to get custody of our child. I actually contacted Womans Aid today and they said if I wanted to do it tomorrow, their offices shut at 3. The dilemma I'm facing is the fact that he has an interview at 3.45 and I wouldn't be able to do it then. I just don't know if I'd be able to wait around much longer and I'm scared I might just cave and put up with it.
I just dont know what to do really! My mum has told me I can come to hers (which is over the other end of the country) but I know SS would have issues with that as my mum had a drug problem (not herion or anything. More hash and valium) she is clean now and is willing to prove it but I don't want to risk doing anything that would cause me to lose DD So I know I have to do it through womans aid.
Please, any advice would be really appreciated!

OP posts:
AllOverIt · 07/09/2012 05:29

So pleased that you're feeling more like your old self FF.

Are you still going to the refuge?

springydaffs · 07/09/2012 07:16

second what izzy says about him making lavish promises, tears etc. he has got it bad and it is very unlikely he will change. If you went back to him... well, God help you is all I can say Sad

yes, how's the refuge idea going?

glad you're getting back to your old self Smile . It happened quickly for me too - you get out from under their control/spell and the release is practically immediate.

Well done sweetie. Keep us updated when you can xx

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 00:13

Hey guys, that's the ball rolling now. Got a meeting with a lawyer on the 20th and thats DD and myself all registered at doctors etc, all claims have been transferred and even remembered to cancel my Virgin Media subscription! They were so helpful and understanding on the phone when I explained the situation...The guy I spoke to even gave me his direct number and said once I had my own place, give him a call and he'll come set everything up free of charge :D
I've decided to not go into refuge, I'm still rather emotional and think it would be best to stay with my parents right now, still working with WA though and getting counselling.
The police have advised me that they will treat any call from my mums house as urgent.
I have only been here three days and all my friends from here have all rallied around me and have been amazing.
He has been in contact through email and even on here! He found my thread and has messaged me a few times but I am not replying any more as have been advised not to. From what I have read from him, his mother is shouting the odds and saying I'm an unfit mother and god knows how many horrible things. Have DD booked in for general check up at doctors next week so if SS come knocking they'll be getting hit with a report from my GP that my DD is in very good health :)

solidgoldbrass · 08/09/2012 00:34

Well done! Remember that abusive arseholes often play the 'She's mad, she's an unfit mother!' card to try to force obedience from you. It doesn't work. HCPs and the police are used to seeing through abusive men's unfounded accusations and there is no way that the police would force you to return to him; you are not a naughty dog or a runaway slave and have every right to end your marriage; you don't need his permission to leave him.

ladyWordy · 08/09/2012 00:50

Hello ff :) disregard and detach, and keep your guard up. No response is the best response.
Do name change again if you want to, and start a new thread if you want to - it's probably a good idea anyway, as no-one needs to know who and where you are and what you're doing.

Don't worry about Social Services... That unfit mother thing is a very old chestnut. Even if anyone tried to bring it up I imagine SS would drop asleep from the sheer predictability of it.

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 01:04

I'm not going to bother name changing, I have nothing to hide. I'm going to do things right, for the sake of my daughter. I'm not going to fight dirty or keep him from seeing her, it's not fair on DD. SO IF YOU'RE READING THIS, PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE!

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 01:10

Oh, I best mention the bold writing is aimed at ex-p! hope no one got offended!

solidgoldbrass · 08/09/2012 01:15

Don't worry FF. And if your XP is reading this - Oi, loser! YOu are an inadequate bullying prick and your own failures as a human being will destroy you. Now fuck off and see if you can learn some sense.

izzyizin · 08/09/2012 01:41

As a postscript to sgb's message to your odious knuckle-dragging throwback of an ex twunt, I would advise him to take his moronic dear mama with him to the far side of fuck and, when they get there, FUCK OFF SOME MORE.

If he wants to see your dd, Free, he can do so in the supervised enivronment of your nearest contact centre until such time as he has demonstrated that he's cut his apron strings and is capable of standing on his own two feet being a worthy role model for her.

It's to be hoped that the Job Centre gets their claws in him working at something other than being a cunt so that you can set the CSA on him he can join the human race and financially support his child.

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 01:56

izzy that actually made me laugh so much!
Have been in contact with his father who has been incredibly helpful and understanding, he has informed me that exp has actually just been offered a job, but is only 20 hrs/pw and no doubt minimum wage. Starts work on Monday.
Anyways, best be off to bed. Seems DD is finally going to sleep through tonight so best make the most of the sleep! Taking DD down to see a good friend of mine tomorrow and got my very first play date on Sunday and then!! on Monday I have another play date with my childhood best friend (there's only a day between us)

izzyizin · 08/09/2012 02:06

What a difference the freedom to be yourself without fear makes!

It sounds as if your life is going to be immensely enjoyable again, honey, and you deserve it.

StuntGirl · 08/09/2012 03:21

Aww free everything sounds like it's going so well for you right now. I bet you didn't imagine all this could be happening when you posted 4 days ago!

Enjoy your play date with your friend, you deserve it!

AllOverIt · 08/09/2012 07:05

Your posts have made me smile FF. Grin Enjoy your new life. You deserve it Smile

searching4serenity · 08/09/2012 07:27

So happy you got away free! Life will be so much better now, even the small signs of freedom & the ability to choose things for yourself...! Enjoy them & don't look back. You've been very courageous & one day your DD will realise & think you're amazing!

springydaffs · 08/09/2012 20:06

Can you see your PMs from your phone lion? xx

Houseofplain · 08/09/2012 20:13

Well done you op. xx

*Knob jockey. The police are well versed on the stunts you are pulling. So jog on.

izzyizin · 08/09/2012 20:54

Knob jockey, House?

This particular jockey's only got balls when he's controlling a woman and I suspect a magnifying glass would be needed to see his knob.

From what you've said, Free, your ex twunt's dear father sounds as if he's cut from a very different piece of cloth a gentleman.

As the saying has it, it's a wise child that knows it's own father and as your ex hasn't got the brains he was born with, perhaps he should be having a word with his dear mama on the subject of his sperm donor lineage - that's if he can get a word in edgeways while she's mouthing the odds.

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 23:22

Is anyone around? Really need some advice right now!

izzyizin · 08/09/2012 23:40

What's the problem?

Jellykat · 08/09/2012 23:42

We're here FF

FinallyFree1 · 08/09/2012 23:50

HIM! ARRRRG!...First off, I promise I wasn't snooping. In order for me to access the email account his father has been contacting me on, I have to log in through his as I can not remember my password for the life of me. I seen this....

I was looking for some help. For around 6 years i have been in a relationship where I was subjected to domestic abuse. I never knew what to do about it because I imagined I would not be taken seriously as I am the male and she is the female, and I'm a lot bigger than her.

She laughed at me when I told her I felt I was suffering from depression. There were occasions where she punched me slapped me and kicked me whilst I just stood there. I once threatened to go to the police but she said if I did that she would say I hit her (which I would never ever do) and I would lose my daughter forever. She was very lazy and if I asked for help with the housework she would snap at me in a way that made me feel so terrible and so small. She knew how to work me and how to control me, she knew the things that I hated and would make me do what she wanted.

On Tuesday this week she was struggling to change our daughters nappy as she was kicking and screaming, I noticed and went to give her a hand. She screamed "You wee bitch" to our daughter and left the room. As she very rarely contributes to looking after our daughter and because I hate when she screams at our daughter it terrifies her, I tried to take a stand and show that I wouldn't take it anymore. I sat down and said to her "she is your daughter too, its a struggle sometimes but we have to do these things, you cant leave it all to me" and she asked me if i was accusing her of being a bad mother, I kind of stuttered and she shouted over me which ended with her storming off saying "you'll be sorry." She apologized and told me she truly wanted to change but I had to give her a chance.

I have since learned that when she stormed off she made a call to make arrangements to leave, and take our daughter to the other end of the country. I think she is using our daughter as a method to emotionally blackmail me. She did indeed leave and at the time I hadn't yet learned she was planning to. I know she is just doing this to punish me and teach me a lesson for questioning her and I know she will return. (she often has threatened me with taking Hannah away in the past)

the dilemma is that I love my daughter with all my heart and miss her like mad. She is everything to me because we have done everything together, she is my little girl. But I feel I will have to cave and allow her to come back, which I dont want to do because I feel I deserve better than this. If I don't cave-in I know she is spiteful enough to stop me from ever seeing my little girl again. I know she can't be a single parent because she hates putting in the work and she can't look after my girl properly. My partner also has a condition which, when not treated makes her very tired which makes matters worse because she hasn't taken her medication in the last year or so.

My partner has been treated very badly by her mother (whom my partner and daughter are now staying with which is so concerning) who has done things such as stubbed cigarettes out in her arm and kicked her repeatedly whilst on the floor and tried to push her down the stairs as well as when she was pregnant attacked her. I feel like she is becoming her mother and I am becoming her. I fear for my daughter too because one day she may act violent towards her as well as screaming at her.

Am I being selfish to consider refusing to reconcile and have us live here incase my daughter ends up in an environment that is worse and I cannot help her. I want to protect my little girl

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO ABOUT THAT?! Is this the shit he's gonna go to his lawyer with?! We agreed we'd play fair and now I see this! I feel like going through and caving his head in! ARRG!

Jellykat · 08/09/2012 23:58

FF Who was the above addressed to? Has it been sent?

solidgoldbrass · 08/09/2012 23:59

Who has he sent this email to? Have a look. It's possible that he left it there for you to find, and be frightened by.

Don't let on you've seen it. Carry on collecting your own evidence and accessing support, but keep any contact with him to an absolute minimum - insist that he emails you rather than phoning or turning up uninvited, save any nasty texts etc.

izzyizin · 09/09/2012 00:00

First things first; if you're accessing your emails through his account it means he can see your correspondence.

Make a note of his father's email address and the addresses of anyone else you correspond with through his account, and set up your own email account which can only be viewed by you - and stop with the helpless 'I can't for the life of me remember my password' shite - write it down on a piece of paper and keep it hidden away in a place that only you know about.

Secondly, is there any word of truth in what he's written? Have you or your dm done any of things he's claiming you've done?

gimmecakeandcandy · 09/09/2012 00:05

Speak to your lawyer about his slander and honestly don't worry about his lies. He will be seen through at every turn and will make things far worse for himself by lying, if he starts using these false allegations he is digging s very big hole for himself! Speak to the WA too and ask the police to issue a restraining order for you asap. You do not want him unsupervised near your dd either.

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