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Honey traps leading to kinky fuckery and other dating adventures (No 21)

999 replies

KirstyWirsty · 29/08/2012 14:32

I want to know what Nicholas's tip was ... and the last thread was full!

OP posts:
NicholasTeakozy · 10/09/2012 13:44

Watch, I think the honest conversation is the best option. There's no excuse for tight-fistedness, and as for being rude to your DD, well, that's a red card offence.

Sponge, anybody putting you down is not worthy of your time and energy. Your profile photo shows a beautiful fun woman. Your posts on these threads show an intelligent and funny woman who's great at giving advice.

Snape, one of these days you're going to have to sit down with PM and tell him why you two are the perfect couple.

Lueji · 10/09/2012 13:47

Western,

I'd mention to weekend man, just in case he would send a message through there.

But, obviously, he won't notice your profile is missing because he hasn't logged in again and won't either. Wink

Lueji · 10/09/2012 13:54

Watch!
Shock

Disengage from him. You might end up being drawn in again. And he still has all those faults.
Return everything (during the day and when his mum is at home), delete phone number and delete messages.
You can just tell him that your relationship is not good enough for you and you need something great. You don't want to waste your time, nor his, as he may now find someone right for him and who really appreciates him.
Preferably not during the night and not in private... Wink

snapespeare · 10/09/2012 13:56

Tess he 'respects' his dad for giving him a battering - that's how he's been brought up he thinks that it's normal to hit someone you love. Sad run a mile.

OhWestern yep. dont say anything. if Mr weekend asks just say membership up.

Nicholas oh, wont that be a fun conversation!

Lueji · 10/09/2012 13:56

BTW, just because he said ILY, several times, it doesn't mean he does, really.

It might just have been an attempt to draw you back in and to feel sorry for him.

But I'd avoid even casual.

watchoutforthatsnail · 10/09/2012 14:06

Yeah, it wasn't a planned thing.....
I had disengaged... It was unexpected and we just ended up in bed.
I'm certainly not chasing after him or considering taking him back. I know he's not for me. Thay hasn't changed.

Tess. Both awful. Ignore, block, delete.

Sponge, glad you feel a bit better. Ignore those that bring you down, they usually have ulterior motives for doing so.

TessoftheAngels · 10/09/2012 14:08

Western Wind, Lueji and Snape thanks for your responses. I definately don't aggree with hitting anyone let alone kids. I grew up around violence and it's a big no-no for me. I just needed confirmation that my twat radar is working!
I don't want a perfect man, just a genuine, caring, nice guy who will treat me well. I don't remember dating being so hard in my younger days.

Yogagirl17 · 10/09/2012 14:41

WW - I don't think you need to tell weekend man about your profile. If he asks just say your subscription was up.

Tess (hi!) - both men sound like disasters waiting to happen. I agree - delete, ignore, move on to the next one!

Sponge - I think a wait and see still sounds ok. If the his sudden illness was just an excuse surely he would have disappeared by now. I hope you do see him again. x

Watch - put the poor twat out of his misery. No need for character assassination, just tell him that although you fancy him, you don't feel a relationship between the two of you could ever work.

(yoga drums fingers still waiting for message from coffee man who said he would be in touch on Monday.... Hmm)

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 14:46

Sponge I don't know what you look like but I bet you are gorgeous I'm afraid I do not rate the specimens you've been out with and think you deserve much better. I hope you do too.

Tess - Agree with everyone else, kick him to the kerb, horrible man.

My date this morning was lovely. It was so nice to spend a couple of hours with a man who was "normal" with a sense of humour. We didn't say anything about further meets but I'm actually not concerned. If it was success, there will be further correspondance, if not...not.

We did exchange some dating disaster stories which was v. funny.

OhWesternWind · 10/09/2012 14:52

So, what was your worst date? Mine was Mr Bitumen who spent over an hour talking about . . . you guessed it . . . bitumen. The rest of the time he talked about his ex(es). What a catch.

Lueji · 10/09/2012 15:00

The more I read, the more manipulative it seems of him, Watch.

He invited you in, late, I presume, he said I love you several times, and he asked you on FB.

If he really did love you, you should have expected an honest conversation about his feelings for you and

Sponge, at this stage, even if he's not that well, surely he could muster something better by way of conversation. Maybe try to mention something other than diseases?

And the only thing "wrong" "with you" are the people who put you down.
As Watch pointed out, it's way better to be alone than bend over backwards just to be with someone who doesn't even respect you or love you enough.

watchoutforthatsnail · 10/09/2012 15:07

Leuji.
I Think you have misread.
He Text me to ask if I was about And he was just round the corner ( at a gig) I had just got in from a night out, had some stuff I needed to return to him, so said sure. And he came round.

I Didnt.go to him. He Didnt invite me in.

We talked a bit. One thing led to another and a lot of sex. The i love yous happened while we were having sex. He Didny say them to get me into bed.... We had already been in bed a while. Then he Said it later,and I pretended to be asleep...

The fb request has come this morning. After all this has happened...

I.don't think he has Been malnipulative, if anyone has, I have!

Lueji · 10/09/2012 15:26

It doesn't matter if you went to him or him to you.
He contacted you first and asked if you were there.
After a gig is quite late and he probably had more in mind than just talking.

Plus, it's not the getting you to bed (I got that), but the getting you to continue the relationship that I consider manipulative. He just throws I love yous.
(and don't think that people can't tell when you are not really asleep. The breathing is different, you may not realise it because you don't listen to yourself when you sleep)

And the fb request reinforced it.

And you feel manipulative too. And kind of sorry for him? Hmm

I read it as a lame attempt at getting you back.
Attempt, because I know your reasons. He still thinks it's because he didn't ask about your health the other weekend (if I'm not mistaken), so he probably thinks you're just having a huff, really.

watchoutforthatsnail · 10/09/2012 16:25

I don't think that's the case with the I love yous. We hadn't said it when we were dating. So it wasn't something that would have been easily said....

We did talk a little about the Last week, but not much. He Didnt say anything about what he wanted to happen from now.

And I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Scattylatte · 10/09/2012 16:30

Bitumen? Isnt that something you paint on your fence? What gets me is that he thought you were interested in the subject.

You soon find out peoples predudices. One bloke said something about "window lickers" to me and laughed. Dumped. Deleted.

Sponge: Glad you are feeling better too. I dont know you but I really like to see your posts. You are warm, lovely and very bright. However give that man a time frame for his illness/ask him what is wrong with him. You are not his nursemaid. You are his potential lover.

Ok - so my inbox has had an influx. Its now got a few messages from men who appeal middle eastern...could be interesting.

Man who seems to work in the oil industry. Who knows? He hasnt mentioned Nigeria yet but I am waiting for it to happen. He seems ok but has called me "sweet Scat (he shortened my real name without asking me) and that made me want to vomit.

Another man with a PHD works in wind. He keeps telling me about his extraordinary social life. Like I really want to know it!

Many men really want to prove to me they have an amazing life. I really dont give a flying fig...its bizarre

Another bloke had said he will show me a photo of his bedroom wall from when he was 15. This was after I said I liked euro electro music so may be forgivable.

Man wearing turban...seems ok so far. I dont think he will send me a cock picture but who knows.

Ive contacted an old FWB and said I was feeling dry. He may be down my way soon.

Lueji · 10/09/2012 16:55

We hadn't said it when we were dating.

Exactly, so why say it now??? Hmm

Thread carefully there.

Lueji · 10/09/2012 17:00

Think asphalt, Scatty. Not a nice thing to work on.

And a few men (and women) keep going on and on and on about something that interests them without asking a single question about you, or even allow breathing time to change the subject.
I used to know at least one man, and that was my MIL too.
I avoid them like the plague. (the MIL too... Wink )

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 17:48

OMFG - who wants to read the most unintentionally hilarious profile EVER? I actually laughed out loud!!!

snapespeare · 10/09/2012 17:54

Me! Me!!

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 17:55

Here we go---> vom warning.

Englishman abroad looking for a little love to light the fires smouldering inside...

Essentially a devoted and passionate father to one beautiful little girl from whom I could be no more separated than from my beating heart. From the moment she drew her first breath I truly understood the meaning of selfless love....

Hence the reason I am here on this hidden jewel of an island far from the madding crowd. I am looking for a wild at heart gypsy rose to run along the beaches with and plunge naked and breathless into the sea of life. Someone to create and share the next chapter of our lives together with eye's and mind's wide open...

I am a deeply honest, loyal and passionate man who has grown slowly into his skin, to become at peace with himself and the world in which we live. I have so much left to give and so much more I want to do before departing this mortal coil, but I do not want to do it alone.

So ladies, if you can see leading a life less ordinary with this Englishman abroad as a possibility, please get in touch and lets commune. If not happy travels and may you find that which we all desire... a little love and tenderness

footnote: constructive criticism appreciated ladies.... is it me, or where I live???

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 17:57

I actually dont know where to start.
Eye's and Mind's

Yogagirl17 · 10/09/2012 17:59

MadameO - for once i have nothing constructive to say whatsoever!

So Coffee Man is back in touch Smile but is skirting around actually arranging a date! Lots of 'so what are you up to this week?' 'are you very busy?' Just ask already!

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 18:04

Yoga
Just say "I'm frantically busy but can always make time for a coffee scented bloke "

snapespeare · 10/09/2012 18:09

I'm a 'wild at heart gypsy rose!!'. Oo! Pick me! Pick me!!! (because things aren't complicated enough!!)

Blaaarrrrrrgh!!!

MadameOvary · 10/09/2012 18:11

The last line is the best Grin