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is this the behaviour of someone that likes women.

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itsodd · 05/08/2012 10:47

I posted a few days ago after discovering the man I'm seeing had only had sex 5 Times ( at the age of 28) before we met. I am very surprised by this as he seems very confident in the bedroom and we quickly progressed, within a few weeks to dressing up, bondage, anal, sex toys etc. Not to be too graphic, but just to set it all in the correct context.
Ive said to him before how the first night we had sex, he played some high risk moves, that had strong potential to backfire ie: slapping my boobs, little bit of whipping with his belt, pinning me down hard. These things are fine with me, I like them, but he Didnt know that, we hadn't discussed sex at all, so it was a strange thing for him to do.
When he confessed to the only recently having been a virgin i.told him that made what he did the first night even more crazy, in fact it makes it almost incomprehensible. He told me he had been thinking about that and what had happened was a girl at his work had come onto him strongly earlier on in the day, he was cross about her wanting casual sex from him and he took it out on me In a ' take that women kind' kind of a way.
I told him that was terrible.

It's been bugging me since, It's not the kind of thing you say, and now I know our first sex wasn't about us but about some other woman!!!

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puds11 · 05/08/2012 11:29

Please leave him op, i am genuinely concerned for your safety. He sounds like a fucking nut!

itsodd · 05/08/2012 11:30

Not anal in the first session!!!! But was mentioned quite soon after, it is weirdly hardcore very quickly. I'm ok with that and have enjoyed it,but looking back with this new information makes me wonder his motivation.

The gay bar flirting bothers me too. It's probably not pc to admit that though. He Was determined to take me there when we went to London, but I said I.didn't want to go, and frankly would not have felt comfortable having my dinner served my men in thongs, not that I have any problem with gay people, I have lesbian friends, but I wouldn't have been comftable in that situation, especially if he had started flirting with the men.

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GetOrfMoiRing · 05/08/2012 11:31

Good lord. I think he doesn't view you as a person, but as something which conforms to his view of a woman i.e. a thing with holes to penetrate.

Why are you wasting your time trying to work out why he is such a freak? 5 months? Fuck that. Why waste your time on someone like this? Find someone normal.

dequoisagitil · 05/08/2012 11:32

By telling you about this alleged woman who came onto him that he rejected, he's actually saying 'you're lucky to have me - I've got it on a plate elsewhere - so you better perform'. Not a message I'd take too kindly to.

EnjoyResponsibly · 05/08/2012 11:32

In five years time (with strong apologies to MNers that have suffered anywhere close to this situation):

My husband beats me. Often during sex and for the hell of it driven by his dislike of women and addiction to hard porn. If a woman annoys him at anytime, I can count on a torrent of verbal and physical abuse later.

I dread thevthoughtbof having sex with him. There is no consideration for my feelings, he is very, very rough without my consent and I feel afraid that if I do not consent he will hit me again. I strongly suspect that he sleeps with men casually, but I am terrified to confront him and he then has unprotected sex with me.

I am terrified thatbhisbattitude is beginning to extend to our DD's. I want to leave but I have no access to money as he controls all the family finances allowing me only what I need.

RUN NOW.

mcmooncup · 05/08/2012 11:34

He may be lining you up for a threesome of some kind, because you are a dirty bitch.

I would really try not to dwell any longer on his motivations. All you know is he is fucked up. He has no respect for women (HE WOULDN"T SAY AND DO THESE THINGS IS HE TRULY DID- DESPITE HIS 'KINDNESS' IN OTHER AREA).

Do you feel like you can get rid of him?

itsodd · 05/08/2012 11:37

I know I need to dump him. Which is why i started the other thread, then this one. I just wanted it confirmed.

I've Been.with him for 5 months because I Didnt know this information, until last week I had assumed he was just a bit kinky, but still nice, like me.

The ' taking it out on womankind' is just shocking and I cant get past it.

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glastocat · 05/08/2012 11:39

Why are you wasting any more than a second thinking about this? He sounds like a complete weirdo! Run like the wind!

Anniegetyourgun · 05/08/2012 11:40

The reason you got the answers you did on your other thread was because you gave no hint at all of this other stuff. You asked whether there was something wrong with a man who had started late and had few sexual partners, and questioned how he could be confident and accomplished in bed without much practice. Posters answered those questions at face value, with various but generally sensible responses, and it was an interesting enough discussion. However, what you are telling us now is a whole new kettle of fishiness, so don't be surprised if the responses don't gel with what people said before. (I'm not telling you off, it's no wonder you raised the subject tentatively to begin with.)

puds11 · 05/08/2012 11:41

Dump him now!!!! Please!!! And maybe tatoo some kind of warning to his head.

mcmooncup · 05/08/2012 11:41

Enjoy - you really don't have to live like that. You are being abused horrendously.

Have you ever spoken with Women's Aid or even started a thread here? Thanks

teaandthorazine · 05/08/2012 11:42

Well, exactly. Kinky isn't bad. Rough sex isn't bad, if it's consensual. Flirting and anal and all the rest of it isn't bad, per se.

Taking out his anger on you in bed - that's more than bad, that's sick and shocking and dangerous. It's not something you should be 'getting past' tbh.

You need to leave him, like, today. You don't need to explain or justify yourself. Just tell him this relationship isn't working for you and it's over.

itsodd · 05/08/2012 11:42

He has gone too far once or twice and immediately said sorry for forgetting himself, he said he was wound up and forgets women are not the same as women in porn.

Silly of me to have let it go on for so long, especially as he has other issues ( very tight with money, still lives at home)

Ive not dumped someone In years, Will a text do?

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RindersGoesForGold · 05/08/2012 11:43

Mooncup, I think Enjoy was suggesting what the OP's life could be like if she stays with this creep.

teaandthorazine · 05/08/2012 11:43

I think Enjoy's post was an illustration of what the OP might be posting in a few year's time if she stays with this inadequate, woman-hating freak.

Anniegetyourgun · 05/08/2012 11:44

Oh, and in case it's not absolutely clear: RUN AWAY, RUN AWAY! I'm very glad that now you know more you are preparing to dump. Do it safely, don't be alone with him, just in case he's got some weird idea that when you say "you're dumped, mate" you really mean "what I want is to be anally raped until I agree you're the best thing that ever happened to me".

mcmooncup · 05/08/2012 11:44

itsodd - all that has happened is the mask has slipped. It takes time to get to know someone.........and you know you can't ignore this part of him. It's a WHOPPER. A dealbreaker.

Don't feel bad you didn't notice until now, he could hardly say "all women are dirty bitches" in the first week of knowing you. You have to know the naice part of him too before he can let that cat out of the bag.

Just try your very hardest to just DUMP. [http://www.baggagereclaim.co.uk This] might help - the no contact rule etc. and reclaiming your boundaries.

mcmooncup · 05/08/2012 11:45

link again

youarewinning · 05/08/2012 11:45

I agree RUN. I do wonder if the lack of former sexual partners is because he came on too strong to them in foreplay and never got to actual intercourse?

It just so happens you like a bit of rough sex - nothing wrong with that - but it is wrong when it's because your being used a kind of woman figure punchbag.

And, do you know something? You sound lovely, open and honest and very very level headed. Out there is a man you deserve who more importantly deserves you.

it ain't this twat!

teaandthorazine · 05/08/2012 11:45

Yep, a text is fine in this scenario. You don't owe this loser an explanation.

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GetOrfMoiRing · 05/08/2012 11:46

Yes a text will do. You don't have to follow the rules of being nice with this one. Just 'i don't think this is working, please don't contact me again freak'. Don;t engage in a dialogue with him, no matter how many 'I am sorry I will change' replies he throws your way. He is not your responsibility to fix. Run a bloody mile.

mcmooncup · 05/08/2012 11:46
itsodd · 05/08/2012 11:47

Tea, exactly, those things are all fine, I've had Lots of fun, It's been great. But the new info shows it in a different light, one that is very wrong.
My marriage was abusive, I know the signs and this is a far bigger and worrying sign than my ex husband ever gave me.

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dequoisagitil · 05/08/2012 11:47

Christ, women in porn are women too. There isn't a difference.

He has a major problem if he can't tell fantasy and acting from reality. Does he think Kev from Coronation St could service his car?

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