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Is there a guide to getting over someone, anywhere?

338 replies

calibri · 25/06/2012 12:08

I have been in love with the same man for about 10 years. I worked for him, although not anymore. He had a girlfriend (later his wife), I had a string of boyfriends and then a husband. Nothing went on whilst we were married . Both our marriages went to the wall and we resumed our usual on-off thing not long after. He was initially móre keen on a relationship than me (I had no trust at all and was very disinclined to get hurt), then it briefly aligned, then I was more keen than him, although we have always remained capable of being very good friends who get on like a house on fire and have the most incredible sex. We are less good at maintaining emotional closeness. He's flaky, I don't trust him - blurgh. It's no good for me. I've been through this cycle (with him) about 10 times.

Currently, despite me having tried to end it 3 times, we are back to our usual 'friends with benefits' situation. We text pretty frequently, meet up, have a brilliant time, have great sex, then it drops off again. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the brilliant sex element suits him very well.

We are both going through messy divorces, we both have young children and careers and we live 100 miles apart. It was never going to be easy. My ex husband hates him and blames him for our marriage ending: actually, I was entirely faithful and the end was nothing to do with the OM, but I did fall back to him pretty soon after the marriage ended. OM's ex wife hates me, with more reason: there was something going on during their pre-marriage relationship (2002-2004), I thought they were going to end, because he seemed so unhappy and I couldn't imagine why he could do that and still be with me from time to time, but - hey - that speaks volumes about him. His ex discovered this after they got married. So no one can blame her for giving him absolute shit about me.

I never usually find it difficult to 'call' a situation, but I cannot bloody well get myself out of this. I think it's for the following reasons:

a) It's been over 10 years. Although we haven't ever really had a proper, functioning relationship, we have been in the background of each other's lives for a long time. We just seem able to adapt and change and carry on. I feel manipulated in some ways, but I am choosing to carry on. I could stop.

b) If I could pick any man to be with, it would be him. It irritates the hell out of me because he's so bloody flaky emotionally, but he's also funny, clever, capable, kind and I fancy the arse off him. I call it 'love' bceause it is so stupidly enduring, but I don't kid myself that it's a very healthy emotion. But - shit - if he would just be with me, I would never want anyone else. That is incredibly humiliating, because it's evidently not reciprocated.

c) He won't let me go. He always wants to resume the relationship (at the current level) and, because I basically do want to be with him more than anyone else, I end up going back.

d) I retain some hope that it might work out, one day. The current situation is very difficult, so it's tempting to blame that. But I KNOW he's fucking useless and will never be there for me. Dammit, though, he is under my skin. I don't want anyone else. I'd rather be single. I am single, really, with the occasional rations, which is why it's difficult to say no when he resumes contact after I've told him to bugger off.

e) Because of the above reasons, I never really open myself up to the opportunity of meeting anyone else.

That was so long. Thank you for reading, if you did. It's helped to write it, anyway :)

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MaloryMad · 25/06/2012 16:29

eh...tangerine yep not calling when he said he would, that was his favourite trick. He'd say 'I'll call you on Thursday'. Then he'd call me 3 weeks later just like we'd only spoken yesterday.
And cancelling plans he was worse with that than with the calls. Always just a few hours before we were due to meet. I just wondered how many other women he was calling and texting at the same time.
UGH. Thanks for posting that it's reminded me not to engage with him again. Ever.

Tressy · 25/06/2012 16:46

Mine called when he said he would, except when he mysteriously went away without mentioning it. Turns out he wasn't alone, then proceeded to tell me he couldn't commit to me because he would mess it up and ruin our 'friendship'. Sad

Tambasher · 25/06/2012 17:17

What is with all these non-committing men?

I may buy a self help book too, although when I said to my crush (I am very direct) "you ever seen that movie 'he's just not that into you', I haven't but have a good idea what it is about", he claimed he was just "busy"?

Yeah too busy to pick up your phone and send a 2 min text Hmm

I may become a nun, just to try that out....less mess than this man business! Oh I have children though...where would they go?

So you cannot change jobs, well this is going to be difficult, I would continue with minimal contact, only contact when necessary and let him know why and don't sleep with him again.

I know that will be difficult but women find it hard to seperate "feelings" from sex, men don't! I would like to be one of these women who could be fine with sex and no relationship but I don't think I can be so I am staying in my no contact and if he contacts me...well I will then go weak at the knees Grin

No I will stay strong and explain I cannot be just a "booty call" and see how that goes, I am kinda hoping my crush just does not call/text ever again tbh!

Good luck, it's hard but you deserve better/more, we all do.

Tambasher · 25/06/2012 17:19

He also claims he "likes" me.... (still not enough)

calibri · 25/06/2012 20:28

tangerinefeathers: this "... actually I was just as scared of committing as he was, or I wouldn't have been interested in someone so disloyal and manipulative."

Wow. That hit right home.

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calibri · 25/06/2012 20:32

I haven't contacted him

He owes me £50 from the other night, so I know I have an excuse to contact him in the bank

Happy to keep this going for anyone else struggling to kick useless bastards to the kerb :)

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Tambasher · 25/06/2012 20:38

Good on you not contacting him.

Do you need the £50?

Why do I wish my crush had my £50 Grin

No I am most definitly not contacting my crush again and if he contact me I will scare him to death by telling him "I want it all, hearts, roses, constant texts, flowers, everything"

This thread has made me feel better as I thought I was alone in my crush and him being non-commiting!

Tressy · 25/06/2012 20:42

I keep wavering between I'm glad I'm out of his harem to missing him in a gut wrenching way. I will focus on the fact that I was one of a few and although I kinda knew I thought the best of him and that it was hot air. Do not contact, do not contact, do not contact.

Looking forward to getting my book.

Calibri, give it at least a month before you contact him and calmly ask for your £50 back.

Tressy · 25/06/2012 20:44

Ha ha! I didn't leave anything behind at his house the day I dumped him, fortunately not my dignity. I did wish there was an excuse to ring just to gauge the reaction, but there isn't.

Tambasher · 25/06/2012 20:48

I embarrasingly googled yesterday "how to get over guy I have huge crush on" apparently thinking of an apple everytime you think of them can work Grin

This is all I found, I don't think I looked enough. Hmm

Guy = Golden delicious Grin no no no
Guy = Bad squashed apple at bottom of shelf - better!

MaloryMad · 25/06/2012 21:44

We should start a little support group!

Tressy what you said resonated with me, I was also glad to be out of the harem but I won't lie, the process of getting over him was worse than when I was getting divorced. It took me at least a year to get myself on my feet again. Then just when I'm doing great the bastard texts me out of the blue!

We all deserve much better than this. If we're staying with these guys because we too are afraid of commitment, that's something we need to deal with.

Tressy · 25/06/2012 21:58

Malory, Oh no, he text you after a year? How long have we all tolerated these guys?

In my case, I think I did keep it going because I too wasn't wanting commitment when it started off. 2.5 yrs ago now. It was very casual for a couple of years and it suited me completely. I didn't see him as boyfriend material as I knew he was having all these faux relationships with women. Then he stepped up his game and for the last few months he got me hooked into what was another fake relationship in that I was having one with myself only Angry.

MaloryMad · 25/06/2012 22:06

Tressy it was actually two years after I'd broken all contact with him! The first year was awful. The second year I really started to get life back on track, and had stopped thinking about him. I can't tell you how I felt, pounding heart, nausea, you name it. I thought he'd have deleted my number ages ago and wouldn't even remember me. He told me I was 'very special' and he 'really, really liked me and wanted to see me'. They've all got the same notebook I think.

Or, it makes me wonder if we've all been seeing the same bloke!

Tambasher · 25/06/2012 22:25

Hmmmm now I wonder if I have the committment issues for actually liking (lusting?) this guy who I know will not commit.

I have just said to myself that this is it, I am never ever going to contacthim again (repeats this) and my heart will not flutter should he contact me.

Anyones guys name start with S ? Grin

Wow at 10 years and 2 years or even a year... we/I have only been like this since February and he has only really gotten under my skin this month, well maybe I thought of him last month but not as much as this month, before this I was also quite aloof and at times I actually didn't even think about him, never mind contact him....and I just felt happy when he contacted me, I would like to go back to that. That was easy, simple, un-confusing and didn't play on my heart strings!

Since splitting with my ex of 15 years, I am and have been very gaurded with men and of being hurt and this guy has the potential to hurt me, I don't like that. I know I have to put my feelings "out there" at some point but I have to ask myself why I cannot feel this way over the nice guy on facebook who contacts me every day, without fail just to see how I am ? Hmm

Maybe I could/should start focusing on him, I just don't have the same huge crush or whatever this thing is I have with S, sadly, I could try though...now that doesn't feel right either though as surely you don't have to "try" to have crushes on men, Grin they just happen, usually with the wrong ones for me.

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janelikesjam · 26/06/2012 08:58

The warning neon sign is "on-off" relationship. I bet you have never had a serious conversation about your feelings and your future with this man? If you had, it would have been like a bucket of cold water over you, once it became clear he didn't really want you (or vice versa).

I think most people can maintain romantic fantasies precisely because they are that. In the cold light of day its not so romantic when someone has told you that they don't want you (even if they like you, fancy you, etc) Because we don't want to hear it, we don't ask. We don't ask, we don't know. The fantasy remains.

Be careful who you give yourself to physically or emotionally, something I learnt the hard way, very late in life.

Tressy · 26/06/2012 09:27

jane, that is so true. Mine was appearing all loved up then the next morning wriggling out of it by saying 'neither of us want a serious relationship do we'? Which tbh I didn't in the beginning. It was so easy when it was casual, I didn't think about him but was happy to see him when he rang as we had such a great time together.

Anyway I found out big style how uncommited he really was and I'm glad I'm not involved anymore.

Does anyone's guy have the initial J. It does sound like we are all seeing the same one. There must be alot of them about.

HepHep · 26/06/2012 10:25

calibri, have you ever had a look at the Baggage Reclaim website? It's quite extensive, but well worth a trawl through and a read. I found it really helpful!

Tambasher · 26/06/2012 10:27

Mine is/was initial S.

I dreamt about him this morning so am not thinking of him today and after reading this thread I don't intend to waste anymore thinking space or time on him. Better alone and happy than being in a state of utter confusion most of the time and "waiting" on someone, feck him!

Calibri I hope those books help you! You deserve better. Smile

sophieholmes · 26/06/2012 10:46

I really feel for you, letting go of someone can be really hard. First of all, you have to end it. Even if you make your best friend drop your phone in the sink or let your kids play with it in the sea so you delete his number- I know from experience that this is a horrible viscious cycle. He is being selfish, your relationship is unsustainable and you're going to get more and more hurt. I know, I spent far too long letting go of my first boyfriend.

Solutions:
1)Go shopping/revinvent your image. Consider this a new chapter of your life without him. I used to be a realy girly girly. I decided this was a new chapter of my life without him. I bought some dr martens boots from cloggs.co.uk
www.cloggs.co.uk/invt/81048501- my flaky would be sort of boyfriend hated these, and I bought them out of defiance and felt great in them.

They made me feel good and instantly more attractive. I went for a harder image, how I wanted to dress. I realised it wasn't really the image but the fact I was more confident. It doesn't have to be this extreme just change your lipstick for instance.

  1. Focus on your kids. I was looking after my niece at the time and I did more things with her. I'm sure you're a great Mom but your kids are your priority and they are more rewarding than any flaky bloke.

3)Start a new hobby, or go back to something. I know time is hard looking after my 7 year old niece meant time was limited but my best friend had her one evening a week and I went back to ballet. I felt good and started to feel me again. There was a you before him and there can be a you after him.

  1. Stop over sentimentalising. Grab a notepad and write every time you felt miserable with this guy, he didn't call, he cancelled, he wouldn't commit etc. You'll fill a ringbider. You'll realise it wasn't love it was just lust.

I'm happily married now with 2 kids and a beautiful niece- it works.
Good luck hun.

Tressy · 26/06/2012 10:47

Tambasher, I dreamt about him this morning aswell, obviously not your him Grin. In fact I've been dreaming everynight but then it's not long since we parted company but it's strange as I've not had as many dreams about partners before, even when I got divorced Confused.

Tressy · 26/06/2012 11:01

Hep, Hep, thank you that website is great. Just reading one article has got me really Angry that I got sucked into his sad life, so it's all good.

Tambasher · 26/06/2012 12:51

Yes that's a great link, I have bookmarked it and been on FB page too. No more dreaming of hot unobtainable men! Well, hopefully.

Spree · 26/06/2012 14:19

There is website called "Getting Past Your Breakup" which is quite good for articles about moving on