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Is there a guide to getting over someone, anywhere?

338 replies

calibri · 25/06/2012 12:08

I have been in love with the same man for about 10 years. I worked for him, although not anymore. He had a girlfriend (later his wife), I had a string of boyfriends and then a husband. Nothing went on whilst we were married . Both our marriages went to the wall and we resumed our usual on-off thing not long after. He was initially móre keen on a relationship than me (I had no trust at all and was very disinclined to get hurt), then it briefly aligned, then I was more keen than him, although we have always remained capable of being very good friends who get on like a house on fire and have the most incredible sex. We are less good at maintaining emotional closeness. He's flaky, I don't trust him - blurgh. It's no good for me. I've been through this cycle (with him) about 10 times.

Currently, despite me having tried to end it 3 times, we are back to our usual 'friends with benefits' situation. We text pretty frequently, meet up, have a brilliant time, have great sex, then it drops off again. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the brilliant sex element suits him very well.

We are both going through messy divorces, we both have young children and careers and we live 100 miles apart. It was never going to be easy. My ex husband hates him and blames him for our marriage ending: actually, I was entirely faithful and the end was nothing to do with the OM, but I did fall back to him pretty soon after the marriage ended. OM's ex wife hates me, with more reason: there was something going on during their pre-marriage relationship (2002-2004), I thought they were going to end, because he seemed so unhappy and I couldn't imagine why he could do that and still be with me from time to time, but - hey - that speaks volumes about him. His ex discovered this after they got married. So no one can blame her for giving him absolute shit about me.

I never usually find it difficult to 'call' a situation, but I cannot bloody well get myself out of this. I think it's for the following reasons:

a) It's been over 10 years. Although we haven't ever really had a proper, functioning relationship, we have been in the background of each other's lives for a long time. We just seem able to adapt and change and carry on. I feel manipulated in some ways, but I am choosing to carry on. I could stop.

b) If I could pick any man to be with, it would be him. It irritates the hell out of me because he's so bloody flaky emotionally, but he's also funny, clever, capable, kind and I fancy the arse off him. I call it 'love' bceause it is so stupidly enduring, but I don't kid myself that it's a very healthy emotion. But - shit - if he would just be with me, I would never want anyone else. That is incredibly humiliating, because it's evidently not reciprocated.

c) He won't let me go. He always wants to resume the relationship (at the current level) and, because I basically do want to be with him more than anyone else, I end up going back.

d) I retain some hope that it might work out, one day. The current situation is very difficult, so it's tempting to blame that. But I KNOW he's fucking useless and will never be there for me. Dammit, though, he is under my skin. I don't want anyone else. I'd rather be single. I am single, really, with the occasional rations, which is why it's difficult to say no when he resumes contact after I've told him to bugger off.

e) Because of the above reasons, I never really open myself up to the opportunity of meeting anyone else.

That was so long. Thank you for reading, if you did. It's helped to write it, anyway :)

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TurnipCake · 21/08/2012 21:58

I also recommend Baggage Reclaim, it should be in the National Curriculum :D

Tressy · 21/08/2012 22:05

TurnipCake, not another emotional cripple, sounds like you will fit in here. Hope you can glean some advice from reading back.

I keep thinking I'm over it then start feeling annoyed that he couldn't give me the relationship I wanted. It's hard finding someone you hit it off with and he thinks it's me who broke it. I broke something that was on his terms only but he doesn't see that.

TurnipCake · 21/08/2012 22:09

Well, it's never their fault - we're the ones who absorb the blame and the guilt like a sponge.

My ex puts all the blame on my doorstep. I certainly contributed, but the lying, cheating, verbal abuse and the coldhearted ease in which he treated me is his. Oh, and my personal favourite from him, "I have no issues" Hmm

I felt a huge deal of anger immediately after the break up, writing an angry letter I never sent helped

Tressy · 23/08/2012 12:26

Mine has still been trying to see me. I have made the decision (again) to refuse and think I've really made my point this time and he shouldn't ask again unless its on a friends only basis Grin.

TurnipCake · 23/08/2012 22:47

Good for you for refusing. How is he contacting you? Text/email etc?

I haven't heard from my ex - probably because he's on his second lad's holiday in two months (back to the same place! Variety being the spice of life is clearly lost on him) and I feel ok about it. I know I would feel worse if he did contact me but in a strange way I still want him to. It has only been three weeks so I guess it will take a while to purge him from my system.

Tressy · 23/08/2012 23:09

If they are going back to the same place it could be because one of them is on a promise. I do know people who are like this and go back to the same place again and again. I prefer variety too.

It's via text and trying to call me. He will get bored eventually.

Tressy · 23/08/2012 23:12

I can relate to you wanting some contact, you want some evidence that you meant something. How long were you together?

TurnipCake · 23/08/2012 23:19

Oh, I have no doubt in my mind that it's about that, amazingly enough he slagged off the bloke wanting to go back to the same place as 'boring and predictable'. If the cap fits Grin. We weren't together very long, about 6 months officially, started dating 3 months before that. We worked together and he cheated on me with a colleague who worked in the same department as me. Neither of them work there anymore, thankfully.

He will get bored and eventually get the message. He sounds like the type of person to make it all about him, I'm sure he'll manipulate you ignoring him into being something about him.

calibri · 24/08/2012 00:19

Hello, I'm back. How are we all doing?

Hello, Turnipcake. Now this fella sounds like another textbook case! Nice of him to shit so spectacularly on you in the workplace. That's one I've gone through, too.

I think I may be getting over Shitty Pants. I am considering others. I really do think I've had a bellyful of selfish arseholery.

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Tressy · 24/08/2012 10:36

I'm looking forward to my date weeks away. Can I ask advice. We are fb friends and have agreed on the date via chat, but I mostly go in offline, as I hate fb chat. Do I keep up contact or coolly wait until nearer the time and send my mobile no. I don't want to build something up incase there isn't a spark. Should I let him do the chasing/contact as I've made it obvious I will go out with him?

calibri · 24/08/2012 22:14

I think so. Play it cool. Make him think you are doing vast amounts of other stuff in between (even better, actually DO vast amounts of other stuff) and then - oh, look, opened that page on my diary and there is that date. Forgot all about it

I know you don't want to read my It's Just A Date book -sniff - but that is all covered in there and it is working quite well for me so far.

Is he fit, by the way? Would you??

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Tressy · 24/08/2012 23:40

Don't know now but probably YES!.

Mellower · 25/08/2012 11:30

LOL! Yeah let him chase you, he can message you anyway on FB if he wants to talk. [excited]

I am still living my no man life, I like it. Smile

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