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Is there a guide to getting over someone, anywhere?

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calibri · 25/06/2012 12:08

I have been in love with the same man for about 10 years. I worked for him, although not anymore. He had a girlfriend (later his wife), I had a string of boyfriends and then a husband. Nothing went on whilst we were married . Both our marriages went to the wall and we resumed our usual on-off thing not long after. He was initially móre keen on a relationship than me (I had no trust at all and was very disinclined to get hurt), then it briefly aligned, then I was more keen than him, although we have always remained capable of being very good friends who get on like a house on fire and have the most incredible sex. We are less good at maintaining emotional closeness. He's flaky, I don't trust him - blurgh. It's no good for me. I've been through this cycle (with him) about 10 times.

Currently, despite me having tried to end it 3 times, we are back to our usual 'friends with benefits' situation. We text pretty frequently, meet up, have a brilliant time, have great sex, then it drops off again. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the brilliant sex element suits him very well.

We are both going through messy divorces, we both have young children and careers and we live 100 miles apart. It was never going to be easy. My ex husband hates him and blames him for our marriage ending: actually, I was entirely faithful and the end was nothing to do with the OM, but I did fall back to him pretty soon after the marriage ended. OM's ex wife hates me, with more reason: there was something going on during their pre-marriage relationship (2002-2004), I thought they were going to end, because he seemed so unhappy and I couldn't imagine why he could do that and still be with me from time to time, but - hey - that speaks volumes about him. His ex discovered this after they got married. So no one can blame her for giving him absolute shit about me.

I never usually find it difficult to 'call' a situation, but I cannot bloody well get myself out of this. I think it's for the following reasons:

a) It's been over 10 years. Although we haven't ever really had a proper, functioning relationship, we have been in the background of each other's lives for a long time. We just seem able to adapt and change and carry on. I feel manipulated in some ways, but I am choosing to carry on. I could stop.

b) If I could pick any man to be with, it would be him. It irritates the hell out of me because he's so bloody flaky emotionally, but he's also funny, clever, capable, kind and I fancy the arse off him. I call it 'love' bceause it is so stupidly enduring, but I don't kid myself that it's a very healthy emotion. But - shit - if he would just be with me, I would never want anyone else. That is incredibly humiliating, because it's evidently not reciprocated.

c) He won't let me go. He always wants to resume the relationship (at the current level) and, because I basically do want to be with him more than anyone else, I end up going back.

d) I retain some hope that it might work out, one day. The current situation is very difficult, so it's tempting to blame that. But I KNOW he's fucking useless and will never be there for me. Dammit, though, he is under my skin. I don't want anyone else. I'd rather be single. I am single, really, with the occasional rations, which is why it's difficult to say no when he resumes contact after I've told him to bugger off.

e) Because of the above reasons, I never really open myself up to the opportunity of meeting anyone else.

That was so long. Thank you for reading, if you did. It's helped to write it, anyway :)

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Mellower · 18/07/2012 15:17

Grin foof!! Love it! I will use that word!

Tressy · 20/07/2012 22:00

How are we doing, just checking in. I've got an occasion coming up next week and wondering if 'he' will actually surface on the day, via text. Will be checking and hoping for some kind of acknowledgement that it wasn't all in my imagination.

Anyway onward and upwards, currently waiting for a male friend to visit and (whispers) this one is single so why not, need to get back into the saddle.

Hope everyone is OK and the 30/60 day no contact rules is working. Although I'm still struggling, but proud of my dignified silence.

Mellower · 22/07/2012 19:51

No contact here altogether, unoless viewing someone pass you on a dating site cont Grin

I have also resumed no contact with EXH and it feels very good. Much much better. I seen to have gained a few pound since operation and this has put me off dating at all to be honest so have only been there once in 3 days. I must stop eating so much rubbish with DC!

Best of luck all Smile

Tressy · 23/07/2012 15:43

I've had the closure I wanted now. I was half expecting to hear from 'him' and it's happened this weekend. Long and short of it is that he misses me, still wants to see me but for some reason admits to not being able to give me commitment.

Then I waver and think I never, ever, meet men I like as much so why am I kidding myself I deserve more. Anyway, I stood by my convictions and said no. Anyone know any respectable cat dealers, it's time I filled my house up with some kitties Grin.

Mellower · 24/07/2012 23:02

I have 3 but need them for when I get my house by the sea and they starting pissing on me, or do I just get that smell by myself? Hmm

Ask me then I may give your one. Grin

Give yourself a pat on the back. Who needs them. I have not stalked S for maybe 4/5 days now. He will be wondering where I am not

The more I think of it I was only on the site at such times (11pm -3am sometimes) Shock as I was talking to him and had a lot on my plate so couldn't sleep. Now I am kinda back to normal bedtimes and I think what's his excuse? He's a player, looking for his next victim.

Still haven't texted him and only have vague memories of our times together now.

Tressy · 25/07/2012 16:23

Well done to you aswell. Hope you are feeling better.

I had to sit on my hands last night as him being in touch has stirred it all up again. Holding my ground for a while longer to see if he goes that extra mile then I might agree too rip his clothes off see him again.

If not I'm over it him in 2 weeks, I don't need him. There will be other men more worthy of me just around the corner. (Keeps chanting).

Mellower · 26/07/2012 18:45

No committment = No contact with un-obtainable man!!

Make it your mantra for next 2 weeks.

I am almost definitly over S, I am free tomorrow all day and night and so is he but I am going to have a relaxing day reading and erm... maybe on here oh and crap TV!! Yes, sorted.

The alternative is driving 40 miles, meeting S, talking crap fro few hours, end up in bed, (actually ouch) then feel like shit the next day as I have to drive home knowing I most likely will not see him again, unless we have another "free" day and watching him slime all over POF!!

calibri · 30/07/2012 09:19

Hello ladies. I've been away for a week, with a friend (best friend), then with the kids (best kids).

I am finding the no contact rule really helpful.

Emotionally - meh, it's getting better, but it doesn't go away.

You two both sound as if you're doing pretty well, too. It sucks, of course, but I am better now than I was.

Still very, very sad. Like Tressy says: I just don't think I'll want anyone as much again Sad

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Tressy · 30/07/2012 10:10

I gave in and agreed to meet up, all hearts, flowers, wining and dining apologies etc, then came crashing down the next day. I was doing so well and I've undone it all now.

He wants a non committal ongoing thing and I cannot do it, not with him. I want to be everything and he doesn't feel that. So am trying a different tactic. (To get over him). Told him the truth and he is so desperate to stay in touch, fine, but I won't be sleeping seeing him again.

Sorry to let the side down. He's really got under my skin. Not sure if it's because I can't have him totally or I've fallen for him, hard! Gawd it's not like I'm hard up for a man, I've got male friends who would jump at the chance to be with me.

Well done Calibri, keep it up but it's so hard when they try and get you to see them. Lets hope these guys man up.

calibri · 30/07/2012 13:33

Tressy, I've done that kind of thing about 5 times now. So - forget the 'sorry' stuff - I totally sympathise. How are you feeling today?

I saw my mum over the weekend and she was appalled to fnid out I'd gone back again, at the end of June. She scraped me up off the floor the third time I tried to leave him, at the end of March.

I think I am done now, but if he walked in here now ...

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Tressy · 30/07/2012 13:48

I'm feeling OK now, thanks, at least it was only a one night thing. I will think of it as a blip then get back onto this getting over him lark.

These guys are so annoying, how dare they treat us like this, pick people up then let them down. I'm sure if I kept on seeing him he would eventually meet someone he actually wants and I'd be dropped like a tonne of bricks. I need to keep that thought at the forefront of my mind. My friend says that the giving in is part of the healing process because it brings you down to earth with a bump.

How long ago was it you last saw 'yours', now?

Mellower · 30/07/2012 14:01

Oh Tressy don't worry I am sure I would have seen mine again if I had not had the operation.

On a brighter note mine has put a new picture of himself of dating site and I have totally gone off him!!

He looks skinny and stupid and different, he actually doesn't look how he really looks but the picture has done it for me, he is in a wet-suit ??? bleuch! Thinking back he was nice and the erm... sex was nice but not overly great so that's that, so not fanciable!!. I was going to contact him and tell him to take the picture down but...nah let him get no attention as he just look silly now! Grin

Tressy · 30/07/2012 14:13

Mellower Grin. You are seeing him (literally) for what he is now. Let's hope he sends out loads of messages and doesn't get one reply.

Is he on POF? You can pm me his username, I will have a look but stop him knowing I looked. I've still got a profile on there without a photo so not much happening except a male 'masseur' sent me a message today offering his services. Grin I'm not at the stage where I have to pay for it, yet. Must remember to log on and report him.

calibri · 30/07/2012 17:02

Oh yes, let's upset him :-) I'll help!

Tressy - picked up my money on 17th July. Last time together - which was annoyingly fantastic - was 29th/30th June.

Struggling today. Am off to a work 'do' at a site at which we used to meet - halfway between us - and staying in the same hotel. Ghosts everywhere. So sad.

Tell you what else: Adele can bugger off with 'Rolling in the Deep'. Makes me want to scream.

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calibri · 30/07/2012 17:33

Sat outside the hotel, crying my eyes out. I wanted him so much. I want him so much. I hate this. Useless bastard.

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Tressy · 30/07/2012 17:55

Calibri Sad See it as facing up to it, tears are good, they relieve your emotions. I very rarely cry, sometime try and make it happen but it won't.

Hope you have a good night.

calibri · 31/07/2012 10:02

Morning. ladies.

Well, that was a bit of a bugger. The actual work do was great - lovely people, laughed myself silly - but as soon as I was on my own again ... blurgh. Bastard.

I dreamt about him, too. He said he had finally chosen and I was the one, but - mmm - things weren't adding up, even in my Fantasy Subconscious. I can't even dream away his bastardness!

Onwards and upwards. Thanks for being there x

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Tressy · 31/07/2012 11:53

Calibri, glad you had a good laugh at the do. See there is no getting away from his bastardness, even in your dreams. That's good, the veil is dropping from your eyes. (Think I'm making these up as I go along) but you know what I mean.

I had a little think, last night, and was so annoyed at myself for letting him back in and just thinking about his behaviour, I could have banged my head against the wall. It's like he conjours up ways to treat me mean and does it. But of course, he doesn't, he's just being a selfish prick, getting what he wants and deep down that's all he wants. He doesn't want or care about me. And breathe........

Mellower · 31/07/2012 14:12

I detest ghosts and dreams. Sad

Hope you are better today.

PM of way to both please don't laugh though, he seemed nice. Blush

I contacted him and told him he was an arse and his picture looked nothing like him but then he lied about his height too and he is so not 5'10, so that should have put the final nail in the coffin!!! I then contacted him again saying Oh ffs you are a mooody moody b@stard and just because we slept together you cannot even reply!!! I think I called him another few names just for good measure. Blush

Tressy · 31/07/2012 15:09

Mellower, you have mail.

I would say, that you should block him on pof now and delete his number from your phone. You've given him what for. I got sick of being the 'cool girl' and fired off a piece of my mind too, this time. But I will leave it now or I will start looking like a crazy woman, I'm sure he was trying to turn me into one and couldn't stand the fact I'd backed off.

Mellower · 31/07/2012 16:04

I think he needs to message me to block him as I tried but think I blocked myself from me. Confused

Tressy · 31/07/2012 16:29

Yes he would need to be in your inbox to block him (and we don't want that ooer Grin).

I've just been reading this thread back and realise how pathetically, vulnerable I've was. Making out I was this 'no contact' expert when really I was ripe for him to lie his way back in......

Mellower · 31/07/2012 17:38

Aha but you are so much wiser now as am I, well I guess sending wetsuitman 3 messages wasn't good but none of them were nice, how dare he not respond so I can block the fecker!! Grin

calibri · 31/07/2012 20:04

Yeah, I'm using this thread as a very nasty reminder of how pathetic I am, too!

Shitty Pants is on holiday for 2 weeks. I bet it's with his wife.

Not exactly crime of the century, though, is it? Imagine the headline: Man Holidays with Wife and Child. Ooh, controversial ...

Still makes him a shithead, though.

I feel better today. You two are great, by the way. This is such a refuge.

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Mellower · 31/07/2012 20:49

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wetsuitman has contacted me, I have not been to read it yet..... why?? I don't know.

I will not sleep with him
I will not be nice to him
I will not make ANY arrangements with him
I will not
I will not

OK I am going in..............

Oh you are great too!! We rock, shit I hope I do, .......no I do I WILL be strong, even aloof I may even block the fecker. See may May should be will tbc/..... I will leave it another 5 mins incase he is there, that may lead to conversation sargh another may

He is NOT hot
NOT
NOT

horrid weebly wesuitman