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Is there a guide to getting over someone, anywhere?

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calibri · 25/06/2012 12:08

I have been in love with the same man for about 10 years. I worked for him, although not anymore. He had a girlfriend (later his wife), I had a string of boyfriends and then a husband. Nothing went on whilst we were married . Both our marriages went to the wall and we resumed our usual on-off thing not long after. He was initially móre keen on a relationship than me (I had no trust at all and was very disinclined to get hurt), then it briefly aligned, then I was more keen than him, although we have always remained capable of being very good friends who get on like a house on fire and have the most incredible sex. We are less good at maintaining emotional closeness. He's flaky, I don't trust him - blurgh. It's no good for me. I've been through this cycle (with him) about 10 times.

Currently, despite me having tried to end it 3 times, we are back to our usual 'friends with benefits' situation. We text pretty frequently, meet up, have a brilliant time, have great sex, then it drops off again. Doesn't take a genius to work out that the brilliant sex element suits him very well.

We are both going through messy divorces, we both have young children and careers and we live 100 miles apart. It was never going to be easy. My ex husband hates him and blames him for our marriage ending: actually, I was entirely faithful and the end was nothing to do with the OM, but I did fall back to him pretty soon after the marriage ended. OM's ex wife hates me, with more reason: there was something going on during their pre-marriage relationship (2002-2004), I thought they were going to end, because he seemed so unhappy and I couldn't imagine why he could do that and still be with me from time to time, but - hey - that speaks volumes about him. His ex discovered this after they got married. So no one can blame her for giving him absolute shit about me.

I never usually find it difficult to 'call' a situation, but I cannot bloody well get myself out of this. I think it's for the following reasons:

a) It's been over 10 years. Although we haven't ever really had a proper, functioning relationship, we have been in the background of each other's lives for a long time. We just seem able to adapt and change and carry on. I feel manipulated in some ways, but I am choosing to carry on. I could stop.

b) If I could pick any man to be with, it would be him. It irritates the hell out of me because he's so bloody flaky emotionally, but he's also funny, clever, capable, kind and I fancy the arse off him. I call it 'love' bceause it is so stupidly enduring, but I don't kid myself that it's a very healthy emotion. But - shit - if he would just be with me, I would never want anyone else. That is incredibly humiliating, because it's evidently not reciprocated.

c) He won't let me go. He always wants to resume the relationship (at the current level) and, because I basically do want to be with him more than anyone else, I end up going back.

d) I retain some hope that it might work out, one day. The current situation is very difficult, so it's tempting to blame that. But I KNOW he's fucking useless and will never be there for me. Dammit, though, he is under my skin. I don't want anyone else. I'd rather be single. I am single, really, with the occasional rations, which is why it's difficult to say no when he resumes contact after I've told him to bugger off.

e) Because of the above reasons, I never really open myself up to the opportunity of meeting anyone else.

That was so long. Thank you for reading, if you did. It's helped to write it, anyway :)

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Tressy · 03/08/2012 23:47

He was my confident in the casual carefree days although he didn't give much away. That might have been because there wasn't as much to tell, he might have been slightly intimidate by my soap opera life. Who knows, but he did a number on me when eventually opening up that the one before me had got ahead of herself, therefore, warning me to be different, i.e the non demanding, cool girl. Gosh they are skilled in their art. Or perhaps they aren't that clever, we are giving them too much credit.

I think you know what I am saying and hope you don't feel I am being self absorbent, because it applies to us both. Spooky Grin

Tressy · 03/08/2012 23:49

'Confidante' I think that's what I meant.

Mellower · 04/08/2012 13:46

Blasted wetsuit man is chatting with me as I type.

He had a date the other week but she was "too posh".

He is looking for some good sex. Shock

God this guy is unbelievable...... I am unsure what next comment will be to him but I am not wasting time/petrol on THAT!

I agree I need abreak from men. They annoy me so much, will come back and read more later just had to share how bloody erm... argh the cheek of this guy WTF does he think I am a prostitute there for when he wants sex? YES!! Oh he SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong Angry x

Tressy · 04/08/2012 13:53

Mellower, how about 'NO, I am not an option for you anymore, good look in your search' Then go offline.

Tressy · 04/08/2012 13:54

'luck'

Mellower · 04/08/2012 13:59

HA! told him I have date tonight, I am going for a slap up meal with hot copper lies!! That'l teach the fecker AND he wants my number again... hmmm feckyouwetsuitman

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:00

Oh yes, that will be my next message!! Why do I not think like this?

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:04

Ah I don't think I am option for you anymore, if I could seperate the sex from liking you (like you) then it would be fine but to be REALLY honest, it hurt when we had a good day and night then next day your on here looking to do it with someone else, I'm not for you, I'm just an easy option sex person for you much as I hate to say it, I know it.... x

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Tressy · 04/08/2012 14:08

It's not firm enough!! Has he replied?

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:18

Yes.....

I am now off the site, I told him I have to go get ready for my date and don't want him seeing me on there, his reply was "nothing wrong with gd sex tho" Angry My reply was "there is when it involves my feeling getting hurt" then I left and oh ping there goes my fecking phone.....another message!! I am not looking, I am going to take a nice hot, bath I have no children here so am venerable but I am not going there no way!! It's not even my 6 weeks up yet, or is it? No next week is.... argh at him! I did message another 2 guys though.... nope just checked phone it's him. Persistant fecker!!!

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:27

Okay I went back....

He is sorry for hurting and confusing me, and hopes I have fun!!! and "I make him horny" (I also said he confused the hell out of me), I replied "you are bad bad bad man" this is not going how it supposed to, god I detest myself sometimes.... oh another message this timeI am NOT looking, going for bath to calm down and re-assess horrid wetsuitman back to no way ever again!!!

I also have a HUGE spot just now, I have put on weight since last seeing him and JUST NO!!! I refuse to be used, I am not horny, I don't MAKE him horny he is just a horny fecker. I could tear my hear out....I liked it better when we fell out!!

You know he isn't even apologising for going on the site after being with me, what a bloody....I am having a shit of time just now with things from the past and could use a cuddle but not sex with someone who will only contact me for sex WTF??? What have became??

No no no.

Prick

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:32

Ah great now my ex is giving me abusive calls. Can this day get any better, this is what makes me want to run to wetsuitam, I cannot believe I am sitting here crying over two horrid horrid men Sad

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:50

Nice long bath will wash them out of my hair!

Mellower · 04/08/2012 14:50

and head

Mellower · 04/08/2012 18:14

Ah... all better and safe and sound at home. Grin

All phones off, cannot hear PC sending me mail to phone so all good.

Yes I think we need this thread.

Argh @ 22 & 10 years!!! Sad

These men are the losers, we will all be happy sometime not son for me as I am taking a break.

I told S I may fall in love tonight and live happily every after, erm... when I am at home watching a recording of Wife Swap and The Bachelor Grin I may go back on the site tomoroow and tell him the date went really well and I am seeing madeupman again, I did really date a copper, he was too nice though oh and a bit gropey for a cop imo. Shock I wasn't ready though this was 2 months after EX left.

Just to throw another problem in EX is denying all abuse has a lawyer and is now trying to take my DC from me, thankfully he wrote a letter after each abusive times, I kept them all... he all HIT my DC, I had him removed from the house (this is all documented) I then took the bastard back (sorry) but I was being abused I believed he would change, I believed he want a "happy family unit" that's all I want, I wonder if I done something in a past life really bad, I have this phsycic man contacting me via email, I know deep down its all a bunch of crap but he said he dreamt of me and something about an evil ball but it seems so true but I don't have £29 so spare to join his thing to remove me from this evil, he also tells me I will be rich in love, money and everything!! Hmm

Why am I so naive ? Why do I believe this crap? (EX and S) I had thought about deleting profile on the dating site am scared S will see me and know I am not on a date Grin I may set my alarm for during the night and do it then.....I think I like him because he is so nice to his boys and EX isn't/wasn't nice to my DC. He is also a good kisser. He is apparently off the weed. None of this matters, he is still trying to use me for sex, I guess he will be using his hand tonight!

I don't think about ME. I don't think enough. I do over think but not in a good way.

calibri · 06/08/2012 11:41

Mellower, honey, don't listen to the non-psychic man because he is fraudulent fucker.

Sweetie, you need a new hobby. S is a shitbag and you're great. How about ......... um .......... Zumba.

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calibri · 06/08/2012 11:42

Well done for not seeing him, too. It's really hard, isn't it?

The other side of being firm / sticking to these rules is that it can be pretty lonely, can't it?

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calibri · 06/08/2012 11:50

I went on the date with the great-on-paper man.

It was nice initially (he's ok looking - not awful, but not great), but god he seems all a bit hollow and weird. I think it's his stupid amounts of money. I ended up going back for a cup of tea (I really didn't want to, but he lived just about next door to the restaurant, and I called a cab from him house - but still, I really didn't want to go back, so why did I?) and he ended up singing to me whilst playing his baby grand piano. I nearly died. That taxi took a LONG time to arrive, I tell you.

I must be mental: this bloke has millions. Fabulous house. I could not give a shit, however.

The driver who took me home was lovely, though. We sat outside my hosue chatting for about half an hour. I have been mooning around over him this morning. He's not my usual type, and it would be horribly difficult due to all the cultural stuff (possibly thinking ahead a bit too much here), but he was gorgeous and clever and funny. I think I kind of needed to click with someone, just to show me how little I clicked with Piano Man.

Shitty Pants is back from his holiday and has sent me a very friendly work related email. I replied back in a similar tone.

It's still him I want. The bastard.

(still laughing about Piano Man)

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Mellower · 06/08/2012 15:06

Funnily enough I am starting Zumba when Dc start back to school!!

I was thinking of you last night. Grin

Oh dear.... I had a very very rich man with a chain of hotels and nice cars ask me out, he wasn't attractive though, I wondered if I could I couldn't.

Funnily enough S has not been in touch since Saturday, he most likely thought I would drive through and resume normal relations with him! Hmm He said he had beenon a date but she was "too snobby for me" and "she was so snobby I think she would have been rubbish in bed",

Analysing that I am common slapper who is a little more experienced than his snobby date. He did mention how "good I was" ..... maybe I should visit him again and lie still, completely still and not move at all Grin Nah I am over him, thankfully he still has his wetsuit picture up and tbh he kinda expected to keep having erm "OMG's" repeatedly where as in my RL I like a little rest between OMG's and actually faked one just to get him to bloody stop! Shock Blush

I enjoyed 2 of my "OMG's" faked one and the other one erm.... hmm I cannot remember, tbh I have to much RL crap to deal with just now and even when I was with him I had a song in my head which reminds me of situation with EX and couldn't get it out of my head. It was strange/weird/ surreal.

So a piano playing loaded with money man (impressed), why can they not be handsome and kind and give you butterflies too? That would be ideal!

Friday was a bit lonley and I did think "what if a few times, especially afteer abusive ex was also contacting me

Mellower · 06/08/2012 15:37

I had to not finish my post there, my dad came in and is always accusing me of "constantly being on PC"

So where was I Saturday night.... yeah it was only lonley when EX started being abusive and scaring me but tbh even that didn't make me run into arms of wetsuitman, I jusat chilled in my comfy (fleecy) PJ's and watched lots of crappy recordings, I didn't get to bed until around 2.00am, I did contemplate going onto datigsite and saying it had been a success and would be meeting him again but..... couldn't be bothered tbh. I did feel a bit alone as DC were not here but not alone enough to feel/be used.

I am so not ready for any type of relationship just now, even facebook guy wanted to "meet to talk things through" but I said I had, had enough of talking to people. Shock Grin

I still don't know how to get rid of him without hurting him. I wish I was a bit more like wetsuitman sometimes, he wouldn't give a feck. Smile

Sorry you still want shitty pants. Perhaps you could suggest he dresses up as a kayaking person (wetsuit) and this may work? Grin Hmm

Tressy · 06/08/2012 16:06

Hi Both, yeah why carn't the loaded ones be fanciable aswell!

I've had a great weekend, been out on Sat night which wasn't great but it got me out the house. Then went to a party yesterday which was great, caught up with lots of people I know. All this has taken my mind of 'him'.

Also got lots going on the next couple of weeks. My days of living alone are coming to an end this week. DC returning, and we have a tense week ahead, so my energy will be elsewhere.

I do feel differently since developments last weekend. Feel like I'm starting to let go, mentally, which is all good.

Calibri, anything going to happen with the taxi driver? Mellower, keep him at arms length now and don't contact.

Mellower · 06/08/2012 17:52

Oh I will don't worry.

I forgot about the Taxi Driver... I also seen a very hot one the other day, he had my son in his cab, with another Mum, I almost flagged them down and jumped in. Grin

Glad you have fun-filled weekend Tressy!

Tressy · 06/08/2012 18:12

I've just been watching 'Dinner date'. The guy had to pick between 3 girls. The last one, despite him not feeling an instant spark, he got on really well with, she was laughing and said she hadn't laughed like that for a long time. He thanked her for an amazing night. He also said it was unusual to click like that with someone, straight away. Did her pick her? Did he flip. He chose the rather aloof cooler brunette who didn't give much away. They were still dating a month later.

Brought things home to me. I got on really well with 'him', but now he knows he has been dumped not as a rejection of him but because he rejected a real relationship with me, he has lost interest. I'm no longer the cool girl or a challenge. Bloody men!

Mellower · 06/08/2012 18:33

I agree, I was wondering WTF is wrong with me for a while but I think I know.

  1. I am too old
  2. I am the same height as him
  3. I am too old
  4. I am too old
  5. Maybe I am really ugly - I do have 125 "meet mes'" though so I don't know maybe they just click any old bloody button

I could go on but may repeat myself.

calibri · 07/08/2012 11:30

Oh, that Dinner Date thing has just hit home with me as well!

I am so girl number 3 in that scenario, and his wife is the aloof ice queen!

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