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ListenBeforeJudging · 09/06/2012 22:14

I'm fully expecting a flaming...this will be long.

I've spent many months lurking and reading the posts about all the affairs and suspected affairs and to be honest, it's helped me get over my own hurt. It's not often that the OW perspective is aired and I wanted to just let you all know that we're not all evil home-wreckers. There are always two sides to the story.

I had a male friend at work. We were good friends for quite a long time - nothing more in it. Then one day, out of the blue, he confessed that he'd fallen for me. I was gobsmacked, hadn't seen it coming and immediately distanced myself - I was angry with him as I didn't know what he wanted me to do with that information as a) he was married and b) I'd never thought of him like that.

I had a lot of time invested in our friendship and knew him well (albeit only at work) and knew he wasn't the typical straying type. I considered him a genuine friend so over time we talked it through. He confided that he felt that his marriage had broken down and that he'd been wanting to leave for at least two years (they'd been married for 8, had married young, no kids and it had descended into something platonic). He was terrified of leaving as he knew his wife was still in love with him and would be very hurt. His whole adult life, his family and all his friends were wrapped up with her.

For months we tried to put the situation behind us and carry on as normal but he told me that for the first time, he knew that he had to leave as if was capable of feeling the feelings he had for me there was no way back to fix his marriage.

We became closer and I started to develop feelings for him but still nothing happened between us. Then he told me that he was going to tell her that it was over. I was away and didn't see him for a week and when I came back he said he'd told her that he wanted out and that the 'wheels were in motion'. It was then that our affair began. We fell deeply in love.

With hindsight this was my biggest mistake and greatest regret. Long story short she was devastated, he couldn't go through with the pain he was causing her and for the next two years we had an on/off relationship (while managing somehow to have a consistent friendship) while he tried to extricate himself from the situation.

Then she found out. He cut me out of his life 'temporarily' while he 'sorted things out' (by this point we no longer worked together). I waited 3 months before seeing the light and telling him that it would never happen and that it was over. 4 months after that he left her. It was too late for us. There had been too much pain caused.

He was the love of my life. I still miss our friendship. I've felt the worst pain of my life over this.

My point to this story? I never planned to fall for him although I accept that I made some bad judgements and got in over my head emotionally. I've spent the last two years regretting what happened. I dream about his (now ex) wife often and want nothing more than to contact her to apologise for the part I played in her hurt - but I know that would just be indulgent and of no value to her when she's trying to move on.

My genuine belief is that if all was well in a marriage there would be no reason for a man to find solace/confidantes elsewhere. My advice? Talk about your concerns with your DH - before things get to the point that you can't communicate anymore.

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ImNot40Yet · 13/06/2012 17:02

No, I did not report you. As per my post, I missed whatever it was you posted.

If you asked what my problem was, I have already spelt that out in several posts. I don't care what is removed or not removed.

Houseofplain · 13/06/2012 17:03

Yes...I'm sure. Well no need for the fanfare then really is there, if you do not care as its boring and all :)

higgle · 13/06/2012 17:05

Sugar, hope you are OK. There has been quite a lot of speculation that WWIFN is about under another name still sprouting the Shirley Glass line - unfortunately.
Shirley Glass has been dead nearly 10 years and although the slush she wrote is seductive to a "wronged" partner it is worrying on many levels - I do hope it is not going to turn up on here again.

ImNot40Yet · 13/06/2012 17:11

I want to respond to an accusation of lying that was made to me on this thread earlier... I said the word 'retard' was used by posters. I was flamed, told I was lying, making it up, that word would NEVER be used by MNers and why couldn't I post a link... I replied I didn't know how. I still don't know how. But put the word into search and it pops up all over the place...... and not only in the context of a fire retardant blanket.

It was pathetic to call me a liar, and wrong. End of.

Houseofplain · 13/06/2012 17:13

It doesn't at all.

Houseofplain · 13/06/2012 17:14

Not in the context you said it did, cut and paste is not hard.

sugarsprinkles · 13/06/2012 17:25

I am ok thanks higgle... you have been one of the few voices of reason on this thread. I don't know anything about Shirley Glass but some people on here seem to think she has the last word on affairs and OWs, her name is mentioned every time there is a thread like this.

AnyFucker · 13/06/2012 17:26

sugar if you are in pain, and in need of help and sympathy I wish you would have said that in the first place Sad

it's kinda difficult to help someone who has done their utmost to convince us that all is well in their affair-bubble, that others should try it and that you two are good for each other

we weren't convinced, btw, and I am sorry you are suffering....infidelity is good for no-one (other than the truly ruthless shaggers/knicker droppers of which there are none on this thread) which is kinda the way this thread started and so we have it

has there been too much bad feeling on this thread for you to ask for any support for your own self ?

Dprince · 13/06/2012 17:33

sj you won't be flamed. Because of honesty in your post and that you don't blame everyone else for your decisions.
But please read it back. How do you know he doesn't simply like having 2 lives? He can be the religious, family man then the westernised single man.
It may have been a pressured marriage but she may genuinely love him.
I don't believe one act (cheating in this case) makes somebody completely bad. But I really don't get the he is unhappy in his marriage but wants can't leave because of parental/ religious pressure but he will cheat. What will his religion/ parents think if they find out?
That's not even considering the damage its doing to you. Being the OW doesn't make you a bad person. The act is bad, but I won't judge people on one single act. There is so much more to a person than one mistake. But you really don't want to be involves in this do you? He doesn't have the courage to leave, but he does to cheat? It doesn't make sense. The affair, if found out, will cause more shame (which i assume he is worried about) and heart break to his family. Do you really want that to be part of your life?

Houseofplain · 13/06/2012 17:38

What af said.

ImNot40Yet · 13/06/2012 17:51

'has there been too much bad feeling on this thread for you to ask for any support for your own self ?'

lol

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ImNot40Yet · 13/06/2012 17:55

AF: 'sugar if you are in pain, and in need of help and sympathy I wish you would have said that in the first place'.

Oh please... like any of the posters who have spent their time attacking each and every OW or former OW or potential OW on here would have responded in that way if she had. Angry

AnyFucker · 13/06/2012 17:56

40 let sugar choose for herself if she wishes to engage any further

you are the one closing her down

and asking someone if they need support for their own self is "lol-worthy" how ?

AnyFucker · 13/06/2012 17:57

40 for someone who said they had no wish to engage with me, you are doing a very good impression of someone who very much wants to

ImNot40Yet · 13/06/2012 18:00

I am sure Sugar will choose to respond, or not, as she sees fit. As I have done.

As you very well know AF, I was playing 'compare and contrast' of the two faces some posters seem to have. Too subtle for some to pick up on, obvs.

AnyFucker · 13/06/2012 18:05

If you give it a rest for just 5 minutes, maybe she will respond, maybe she won't.

From where I am standing though, you are the one standing in her way.

"Playing games" doesn't help anyone.

sugarsprinkles · 13/06/2012 18:10

'it's kinda difficult to help someone who has done their utmost to convince us that all is well in their affair-bubble, that others should try it and that you two are good for each other'

thanks AF but I don't think I was trying to convince others to try it and I really am not in a bubble... otherwise I wouldn't be in pain would I ?
We are good for each other... just not all the time

MadAboutHotChoc · 13/06/2012 18:12

This thread is getting weird Shock

Higgle - WWIFN was before my time, but frankly the witch hunt tone of your post is really disturbing, why are you and sugar so obsessed with her? Shock

Attacking posters (ex or otherwise) when they are not even on this thread is very poor form.

Who do you think you are?

From what you say about WWIFN and Glass, I guess you must also be another OW Hmm

Fortunately for us, Glass has helped me and countless other MNtters on here. What is so bad about her?

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KatieScarlett2833 · 13/06/2012 18:14

Sorry I was a beatch earlier sugar

Had I known you were sad, I'd have STFU

Sad
MadAboutHotChoc · 13/06/2012 18:15

sugar - sorry you are in pain Sad I should have realised from the tone of your posts. Hope you find peace - maybe you could name change and start a new thread?

sugarsprinkles · 13/06/2012 18:16

For the last time I Am Not Obsessed with WWIFN I merely mentioned her once saying that she used to post like some of the other posters on this thread and she did!
give it rest woman

Dprince · 13/06/2012 18:16

sugar - people are not going have sympathy for someone who talks about how happy their affair makes them and their married partner. Especially when you make out you are doing the dw a favour.
Many OWs have posted on mn and received good advice and support. Even on this thread.
if a relationship is a good one, you should not be in I. That isn't a good or normal relationship.
Some people don't want you to open up, god knows why. But if you want to go ahead. Be open and honest.

sugarsprinkles · 13/06/2012 18:17

thanks... maybe I will

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