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ok give me an MN slap and tell me not to want this guy back

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domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 15:54

2 years with xp (on and off...more of that later). He is 35 now, I'm 39.

We don't live together, largely because he doesn't work and has expected me to support him completely. Including all food, bills and plane tickets for when he visits family in Europe. He said the alternative was never seeing me at all as he cannot afford anything. Probably partly true cos he only has E450 per month rental income to live off from a property his family gave him. But clearly not entirely true.

he is finishing a pHD, which in the UK means that when your grant runs out you start p/t work to make ends meet- but he decided not to, as when at home he can live off his rental income while living with his mother or father (they live in different cities...) but he cant' do that with me in London as it's too expensive. I have asked for a small regular contribution frequently but somehow this is impossible because he won't be able to 'keep the money he needs to have a decent life'.

So far so uncommitted eh? Yet when I tell him he is clearly uncommitted, he yells blue murder at me. I have various mental illnesses and problems and he paints himself as a saint for putting up with me and my 'situation' (stuck in London for at least next 10 years with my young sons and wouldn't dream of anything else thankyou v much).

I have told him that clearly he lacks commitment to me as if he wanted to be with me that much he could move here at least temporarily and we could make plans to move out of the UK later when my children are older, if he wants it so much. Clearly I am not a free agent and he is. But it's a no. He hates UK blah blah.

So why the heck doesn't he leave ME? God knows. I suppose he wants the LDR and sex/attention at times but doesn't want to bother actually having to be with me. He says he is 'different to other people' which is why our relationship doesn't have to be 'normal'.

That bit I can get, as you cant' always have a 'normal' relationship even if you want one. However, when he is here, he is a demanding nightmare. He came back the other night from being with his friend all day (at 10pm) and wanted to 'spend some time together' by watching a film or something which was fine with me, but he was faffing about so I picked my book up which I had been telling him was really good and I was v into it (I'm academic, it was a book for work and I was enthused by it). Cue a massive teenage sulk about how I had 'made an appointment with him' (wtff????) and now i was 'letting him down' etc etc. This culminated in me losing it and crying saying I didn't feel I had a lot left and he wanted the last bit. He threw a lot of insults at me as I was lying in bed crying and I couldn't take it any more, I was begging/yelling him to leave the room and he just wouldn't. So I lost it totally and flew at him hitting him to get him out of the room :(((((

I feel shit about it and I know physical violence is appalling whether committed by a man or woman. But I feel I was being emotionally abused by him standing over me shouting and refusing to leave the room. I had already become hysterical and he was calling me 'mad' and telling me I had 'forced him to come here' ????? 'by paying for his ticket' ????? (god...written down it is so fucking ludicrous).

Anyway then I got a long letter detailing my physical abuse of him and how he will 'bear the wounds' of this relationship forever (he had a bit of a bruise on his neck). The next day I asked again if he really thought I was an 'abuser' and he had no part in any of this and got another tirade. I went quiet and said I didn't think I could take this any more. He left and I don't know where he went.

The last time we split up he had another temporary girlfriend within 2 days, btw, he is extremely handsome and attractive. So he may well have shacked up with someone else :( I cant' get that out of my mind what is wrong with me???

I can't get over the fear of being alone. At my age and with a mental illness, maybe he is the best I will get....
I know what you're all going to say. But how do i get on with my life alone? How do I have hope of ever meeting a decent man at my age? (And yes I know xp is not a decent man....)

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domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 15:58

jeez that was long. For anyone who bothers to read it through, my heartfelt thanks.

At least even writing it down has told me that this relationship is deeply sick- no matter whether it is him or me who is abusive, or both of us. And I see that it needs to end. It is just so so painful :(((( I still love the immature bastard, god knows why.

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lolaflores · 06/06/2012 15:59

COCK LODGER in any language. also, nothing wrong with you dear heart. everything wrong with him. A temporary girlfriend? What does that say about his own needs?

Just walk away from the man. Life will unwind at its own leisure but at least you will be in control. This man sounds as though he may not be the healthiest thing for you if he does not understand your mental health needs and may seriously harm your own efforts to stay well.

Read the whole thing back to yourself. The answers are there already, it just takes a bit of a hard bite down on the bullet and thats it job done. I am not trying to oversimplyfy things, but this old act will just run and run till he has sucked you dry financially and emotionally. He is a parasite. Get yourself some delousng powder. Quick

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:01

Yeah I know what you mean. It's just the fact that I hit him :((((( and so he has the ammo to call me an 'abuser'.

his reaction to that is sinister tho...it's like, 'admit you are an abuser and all is Ok between us, you are sick but I still love you....' not in those words, but it's gaslighting isnt' it???

sigh. I am such a sucker. No fool like an old fool in lust.

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domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:03

yeah the temp girlfriend was vile. We were arguing on NYE and by midnight he was in bed with this 24 year old who has been obsessed with him for months. Who he just 'happened to get back in touch with'. He took no responsibility for any of it, claiming he was 'single at the time' and it was all my fault for 'dumping' him (we had been arguing, there was no 'dumping' exactly). It then transpired that he was still seeing her while begging me to come back to him.

urgh. I am a fucking fool. He is the type who genuinely feels he is a victim. Cries a lot, and I feel sorry for the git. And I believed him when he called me an abuser :(((((

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sugarice · 06/06/2012 16:05

Keep telling yourself you are too good for this lying ,immature, self entitled piece of human manure.Keep reading back what you've just written. He is vile,think of yourself and your kids.

lolaflores · 06/06/2012 16:06

Listen, once you know whats going on i.e. "gaslighting" you are half way there. Fuck him and the abuse accusation, tell him to tell the police, make a statement and then wait for the long arm of the law. Did you launch an unprovoked assault on him, was he being calm, reasonable and totally not verbally abusive?

not that it makes it any better, but ...!
Just do it now don't go through anymore ifs buts and maybes because whatever bit of you wants him can jam up the gears everytime. do it for yourself as you will never get anywhere positive with this shit for brains. Sorry, but having been there myself and knowing how much better things can be, there is all to play for. You have nothing to lose but doubts

Thumbwitch · 06/06/2012 16:10

and SLAP and SLAP just for good measure.

You are better off without this total cocklodging gaslighting user!

Lose him pronto. Seriously. Get him out of your head, out of your heart and right out of your life.

What on earth do you see in him?? I mean, externally he might be good looking but he has a vile wormeaten shell for a heart - ugh!

I agree with the delousing powder. I mean, just imagine that you have some delousing powder, cover yourself in it and spread it all around the doors and windows and phoneline to your home.

Then block (if you can) his numbers, delete them all anyway and thank God or whoever you fancy that you aren't actually living with him! Please, never see him again. Sex is just not worth this.

MakesCakesWhenStressed · 06/06/2012 16:10

Run. You say you have 2 dcs, how do they feel about him and do you really want him around as a model for how a man behaves? Sometimes it's easier to do a hard thing for somebody else's sake than for your own, so do it for them. Good luck.

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:12

fuck no lola he was yelling at me when I was cowering in bed crying. I was shouting too though :(. I am no saint and I can be very verbally abusive myself. At one point just lost it in hysterics.

I just couldn't understand what I'd done so wrong in picking up a fucking book....and I'd told him already I was feeling depressed today and if he felt like a fight to stay out :(

The bit that makes me laugh is 'you forced me to come here by paying for my ticket and now you ignore me' hahahahaha. God I want to laugh not cry. I did pay for the fucking ticket too. And many more.

I've known this was fucked for a while and always taken him back out of loneliness and the fact that I fancy him ridiculously. He is far better looking than me or any other partner I've ever had. He is the type who has women falling all over him (as you can tell....last time we went on holiday he was propositioned in the hotel by a woman in her 20s who had literally just met him....)

But yeah I guess looks are really all he's got going for him and I need to fucking well get a grip. But I am so scared of living a life alone. Bah how pathetic.

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lolaflores · 06/06/2012 16:12

Make yourself proud dear heart and your boys. It is not defeat it is a victory. He has to go and do it with a clear mind and a happy heart. All is so not lost

Pollykitten · 06/06/2012 16:12

I'm not sure from reading your post OP why you would want to be with someone like this? Think how liberated you will feel! There are properly nice men out there who WILL want to be with you, but they can't get near you at the moment, what with his toxic fog 'n' all...

Pollykitten · 06/06/2012 16:13

oh yeah, I forgot the slap!

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:13

Weirdly makescakes, as he is such a charmer and comes across as such a gentle guy, the dcs LOVE him.

He really comes across as a complete love. Partly how I was fooled and reeled in. The shit is reserved for me.

But he has done the tpical cocklodger thing and avoided taking any responsibility for them when he's here, just plays video games with them./...

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domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:14

thanks for the slaps all :D

I just need to get some confidence and realisee there might be someone out there who will treat me better than shit.

I feel so shallow for being sexually obsessed with him for so long. Still am :S

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InfiniteFairylights · 06/06/2012 16:15

Read your post through as though it was someone else writing it.
You need to be single for a bit and give yourself time to fall in love with yourself. Yes, I know that sounds really cheesey, but if you think that this is a worthwhile relationship, then you clearly don't have much self respect. Also, think about the relationship lessons that you are teaching your children. Do you really want them to think that this is how relationships should be.
Let him feel like a victim if that makes him feel better. The fact is that he has been using and abusing you for your whole relationship and this is just more manipulation. You'll probably find that his treatment of you hinders your mental health too. Please walk away. Sad

lolaflores · 06/06/2012 16:16

There doesn;t have to be anyone out there? What about inside you? Time to be with yourself and find out who you are before the next meat head that you meet gets to do the same number on you. Learn from this.

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:19

infinite he's not here very often. I made v sure the dcs hardly see him. Again not a good sign eh :(

inside me.... heh... .yeah I guess i don't feel much for myself and I'm so so lonely. Lack friends. But then he took a lot of my time/energy anyway. I don't think much of myself at all.

It's this agitated loneliness that gets me. I used to be Ok on my own. What the fuck happened???

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domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:22

oh and you will all love this.... he still expects me to proof read his PhD thesis for him!!!

Apparently I have to. Even if we are not together. Because I 'led him to believe' I would do it, and it will cost him '2000 euros' to get it done professionally.

I just find him unbelievable. The astonishing narcissism.

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sugarice · 06/06/2012 16:28

He's a dick and your health issues won't get any better with him hanging as a millstone around your neck. Tell him to piss off and never darken your door again.

InfiniteFairylights · 06/06/2012 16:28

It becomes a vicious circle, he has become the center of your life, you need to start focusing on you again.
Oh, and if he's that adamant about the proof reading, say you've done it and hand it back!

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:31

LOL infinite maybe I will :). I just cant' believe his fucking sense of entitlement. I've got the bloody right to refuse to do it especially as I probably saved him over £2k in the last 2 years paying for everything....

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InfiniteFairylights · 06/06/2012 16:37

That's the problem though, he doesn't think that you have any rights, he believesthat your sole purpose is to serve (and service) him. YOU have to start believing differently, because it sounds as though you've been going along with his beliefs. Of course he's going to be surprised if WHEN you tell him to fuck off.

coppertop · 06/06/2012 16:39

Be prepared for him to come slithering back, 'generously' letting you know that he's now prepared to forgive you for all your sins. And the fact that it conveniently ties in with him needing his proof-reading will just be an amazing coincidence of course.

You're well rid of this freeloader. He's the type who thinks he's doing people a massive favour by allowing them to wait on him hand-and-foot.

domesticgodless · 06/06/2012 16:41

god yes coppertop. He's done that before....and I took him back... sigh

his other tactic is to start saying he is sorry and he is a mess etc, but that never lasts very long. I just got a text saying 'I am confused tell me what you want or need me to say'???

what a fucking idiot. Led by hormones. Like a stupid middle aged bloke.....

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AnyFucker · 06/06/2012 16:42

lose the loser

how many demanding sons do you have again ? It appears you are (occasionally) shagging one of them

find someone else to shag, this one is toxic