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"Daddy dropped me on the floor"

441 replies

gladiolus · 22/05/2012 10:19

I have been having some problems with my dh - we're going to relationship counselling after he admitted he needed help. He can be verbally abusive and manipulative, twisting my words to mean something other. I can give as good as I get in return, but I would rather not have to, KWIM?

I've been on the verge of leaving him so many times, but this takes the biscuit.

My youngest dd is 4.5 and when I met my dh she was not quite 1, so she thinks of him as her daddy. She can be very willful and is testing her boundaries at the moment.

Last night she was being an absolute PITA, refusing to put her colouring pencils away at bedtime and basically having a tantrum. After we had given her repeated chances and warnings, my dh finally picked her up bodily and carried her upstairs, saying she was going to bed with no story and no song as punishment for her behaviour.

So far, no problem, she really was being a little madam and I had smacked her bottom. I know some people don't agree with smacking, but that's another discussion.

Anyway, when they got upstairs to her bedroom I heard a big thump and a cry from her. I am familiar with my dd's cries, this one was her "You hurt me cry" but her "I fell over and hurt myself" cry, which is totally different. I hear the "you hurt me" cry when I smack her bottom and when I accidentally pull her hair when I'm brushing it (she has very long curly hair and it gets knotty easily - I do try not to pull but now and again it happens).

The point is, this one was definitely the "you hurt me" cry, it had that undertone of accusatory aggrievedness in it.

My first thought was, "OMG, he's dropped her on the floor," as that is exactly what it sounded like. Then he started yelling at her to get undressed. She still needs a it of help getting undressed so I went upstairs to help her as it wasn't fair for him to yell at her to do something she can't do.

So, we got her to bed and she went quite docilely, no protests at all.

After, I asked him plainly what the noise was I had heard and he said she had thrown herself to the floor after he'd put her down.

But this morning when I was getting her ready for school, I didn't put words in her mouth at all, I simply asked her, "Last night, when Daddy took you upstairs, what happened?"

And she instantly replied, "Daddy dropped me on the floor."

I know sometimes children can be aggravating and she really was at her worst last night, but this is really too much, isn't it?

I haven't spoken to him yet. I took her to nursery this morning and went for a run and he's still in bed.

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MrsVamos · 25/05/2012 17:14

Happy Birthday to your DD1 tomorrow, what a fantastic Mum you are, you have shown her wishes sometimes do come true.

(((HUG)))

Wishing you and your girls all the best. xxx

AnyFucker · 25/05/2012 17:32

I hope olgaga doesn't mind but I reported her post and asked that it be made a sticky at the top of the Relationships topic.

TheHappyHissy · 25/05/2012 18:09

I was thinking of doing the same AF. It really is very good advice!

akaemmafrost · 25/05/2012 18:35

I think you're brilliant op. I second getting out ASAP, he WILL turn nasty. There is script for these men and so far your H is following it to the letter.

Have a lovely party tomorrow. Your eldest dd will always remember this birthday with happiness because of your decision.

ChasedByBees · 25/05/2012 22:08

Thank goodness OP Thanks

ThatVikRinA22 · 25/05/2012 22:12

i read this thread the other night and i couldnt bring myself to post, but i am so hugely relieved for your little girl that you have seen the light.

well done. your dd will thank you one day.

BobblyGussets · 25/05/2012 22:28

Good luck OP, enjoy your daughters and your new life. I wish you the best.

PooPooInMyToes · 25/05/2012 23:10

I am relieved for you and your girls that you have made this decision.

My controlling violent ex accused me of sleeping with someone else when i took too long at tesco, when a drunk person said hello to us both on a beach, when i had conversation with a teenage homosexual boy . . . well all the time really! Dick!

gladiolus · 26/05/2012 09:35

He has been walking around with a mournful look on his face and is being super-nice and thoughtful, but I keep remembering all the stupid little controlly things he does.

Like, we have different milk, he has whole and I have 1%. If I made him a coffee/tea and finished off his milk making HIS coffee, I was expected to open the foil inside lid of the NEXT one so it was ready for him.

If I forgot he would point out the fact that he did it for me (which he did) and it was only polite and I should do it for him and why was I so rude and selfish as to not do it.

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xTonixxx · 26/05/2012 09:57

Like others, I'm relieved for you. Your daughters will be proud.

ibuyjaffacakesnow · 26/05/2012 09:58

Well done gladiolus. When you leave little things like not having to do his foil on his milk will make you feel good.

I recognise the mournful look you describe and also the listing of my faults.

Have a lovely party today for your daughter.

Then make concrete plans to leave, soon, you don't know how long his mournful and being nice will last. You've made the decision to leave. Now you have to do it as soon as you can.

brianbennettfan · 26/05/2012 10:31

Coming out of lurkerdom to say:

......happy birthday to the little one Grin

......that I too recognise the mournful look. I also remember a rather dirty and disgusting-looking surgical collar that materialised round his neck (he hadn't been to a GP for years and had absolutely nothing wrong with his neck) but told me that 'a doctor' had advised him to wear the collar because my declared intention to throw him out had made him so tense that 'all my neck muscles are completely buggered up'. [crap emoticon]

ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 26/05/2012 11:05

He also sounds 'barking' - who the fuck does that with milk (or anything else)??

I am so relieved you are moving out. You and your girls will have a much, much better life.

He isn't their father, he doesn't have PR - you are lucky, you never have to deal with him again :)

I hope DD1 has a lovely party and is enjoying her birthday wish coming true (though she probably doesn't quite believe it yet!).

TheHappyHissy · 26/05/2012 11:33

Oh they ALL do the mournful look.

It's what is known as shutting the gate AFTER the horse has BOLTED.

They are truly pathetic, truly.

Keep talking to us, keep posting, either here, or you can always find fellow escapees on the Support for those in Emotionally Abusive Relationships 8 thread.

gladiolus · 26/05/2012 11:47

Oh, he's taken off his wedding ring and left it ostentatiously on his bedside table so I could see it when I went upstairs to dry my hair.

I must admit, it gave me pause, but only to examine my feelings and see what was there.

I sat on the bed and held it and felt . . . absolutely nothing.

So I put it back where it was and dried my hair :)

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JustFab · 26/05/2012 12:24

He is trying to bully you into changing your mind I think.

TheHappyHissy · 26/05/2012 12:27

Good for you! the detachment will help you through this.

ATM you are running on adrenaline, that will dip, so expect a wobble, prepare for one, remind yourself that AuntyHissy told you it might happen, so to just ride through it and keep your eyes on a future where your DD will be safe, when you will be happy and you will be able to do what the hell you like with your milk. Grin

He's showboating, if he really meant any of it, he'd not be taking it off, he'd be begging for forgiveness, calling support lines, and actually REMOVING himself from your home until he has sorted himself out.

ATM, he is just doing all this to make you feel guilty, to push the blame of this situation onto you.

Jux · 26/05/2012 12:28

Excellent. Have you removed yours?

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 26/05/2012 12:35

You awesome independent hair-drying good mother, you :)

Best of luck for the party! Hope he has the good grace to sod right off for the day.

ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 26/05/2012 12:38

What AuntyHissy said ^^

Do Not Wobble.

kettlecrisps · 26/05/2012 12:49

The reason they do the sad eyes and develop ailments sometimes and even fake mental instability is they know what loving, caring women they are dealing with.

They know our natural instinct would be to worry and care for them. Know this and see it for the pure manipulation it is. Resist your natural intinct to solve things, help him and worry.

Be really clear in your mind that this is just MORE controlling behaviour with different packaging.

You really will be able to laugh at his transparent attempts to play you with the wedding ring etc. keep clear in your mind he is doing same old shit here; this aint a new him.

I do believe he will show his temper at some stage that he can't make you react anymore.

sadwidow28 · 26/05/2012 12:55

A lurker here wanting to wish your DD and happy birthday and a super fun day for you and your two girls.

brianbennettfan · 26/05/2012 13:50

Popping back in just to add to my post of 10:31:14:

After three days when he realised that his shit attempt at manipulation hadn't worked I found the manky surgical collar in the bin, and it was then that the anger began. Brace yourself, sweetie, and have some Thanks from me.

gladiolus · 26/05/2012 14:06

At the moment he is swanning around the house emitting deep sighs and asking what he can do to help with the party.

So I've had him hoover and clean the downstairs rooms and make me a coffee.

He did already say he wouldn't be here when people started to arrive. I think he thought this would upset me, but I just said, "Okay," and gave him a smile.

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gladiolus · 26/05/2012 14:09

"Have you removed yours?"

Not yet. With dd's party today and my mum's party tomorrow, I was going to wait till next week to tell people. I didn't want to spoil everyone's day.

I have told my best friend though and she said she thought I was making the right decision. I've obviously cried on her shoulder enough times over the last couple of years for her to see him as he really is.

He asked me this morning had I told her and I said yes. Then he wanted to know what she'd said. I just said. "That's private!" He seemed a bit miffed that I wouldn't tell him.

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