Have a go at Dadslib.... ...pillock!

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I mean

"(P.S. I think if I'd read this thread earlier, I might have refrained from using certain 'words' in the other thread. You make me feel very humble and ashamed. ) "

Dadslib's words to me on another thread....Am I confused?

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Well, here you seem to be acknowledging that words DO matter, and that you would be prepared to drop your blunt 'non-pc' approach because of wanting to communicate helpfully, and below you argue to the death that you'll never chage and we'll all never agree!

(in fact tho' I have 'views' on the currency of language, as explined in various posts below, and my biggest worry about DS is that the effect on his self-esteem will be harder to cope with than the physical effects of his one-off leg design, i wasn't personally offended by anything you said)

I don't think it's for others to decide whether someone else is likely to be offended. I wasn't offended by the gay-black-lesbian thing because I knew what he meant, but I still think it's a poor taste expression, and whenever I hear someone use it, they go down in my estimation. And if they are only words, well then it should be OK for me to fuck and cunt my way through any post I like, shouldn't it? I don't think so. Aloha and Thomcat and M2T and Custy said it best.

Blu, I was confused about what dadslib said on that thread too. Could you be more explicit please, dadslib?

And could I add that, from yet another thread, MY relationship wold be under threat if my DP spent as much on handbags as your DW appears to, on a teachers salary and yours which you have previously said is less than hers, i think...and no camp ooh er jokes about my DP and handbags...you know what i mean!)

dadslib, you should read Gridlock by Ben Elton. His main character has special needs and is so sick of words like spastic and cripple being used as terms of abuse that he hyjacks them back for his own use in an attempt to render them harmless. It's an interesting account, albeit by proxy, but at least Ben tries to imagine what it must be like. You couldn't get more outspoken than Ben, or more pc, or more inoffensive (sp) - just takes a bit of thought and consideration.

i thikn that the point is taking taking the mick, saying things tongue in cheek or sarcastically do not come through on the internet
therefore avoid it
IMHO

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you have got it now dadslib
so - lets sort out this problem you have which is why you started thias thread!

Dadslib - apparantly using the term PC = Nazi facist so you can't use that now either!!

(re your handbag fetish)

OK, I'm with Popsycal...back to the beginning. Your relationship with DW.

ThomCat, LOL and LOL again

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Anyway, they're not black they're brown. I have never seen a truly black person, so technically it's not correct to call them that. Just as we are not white I suppose.

Ali G and Lenny Henry have both done wonders in turning the PC thing upside down with their versions of "Is it cause I is black??" They make a very good point too!

Now then, back to the original thread - yes that's a good idea! Dadslib are you going to do an SS on us and give us a whole load of reasons why you can't do this and can't do that and excuses for your behaviour? Surely not! What are you actually DOING to sort this one out?

P.S. You Southerners are only jealous of us superior Northerners!

the southerners dont realise it rhuby

You can tell Dadslib comes from Stockport - uncooth, lazy and sobs into his whippets when challenged! C'mon DL, give us an update!

I think so-called PC language is about using the terms that the relevant people prefer to use describe themselves - hence it is OK for black person to refer to themself as a nigger - but not for me or you Dadslib. If a disabled person wishes to refer to themselves as a cripple, jokingly or satirically, that is also OK, but not ok for me to do so, as the word has a completely different context.
Every black person I know uses the word black to describe themselves. Itt's quite a political term - think 'Black is beautiful'. Halle Berry, who is mixed race and was brought up by her white mother to whom she is close says she calls herself black because that's how society defines her. Ms Dynamite has the same view. I think one of the problems with 'coloured' (and Rhubarb I absolutely know you did not use the term with any racist overtones whatsoever so this is not a criticism of you at all) is that it was one of the divisive and racist classifications in apartheid and was used extensively by racists in the 60s.

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Well, I didn't know that Aloha! Just shows my ignorance! Funny but all my family uses the term 'coloured', I've never been happy with the term 'black' just as I would probably never use the term 'white'. After all, how do you describe Chinese people? I couldn't call them 'yellow'! So the term coloured, for me, groups together all of us, white, black and yellow and those inbetween!

Sale - isn't that in Stockport?

Rhuby - doesn't that mean that when you say 'coloured' you could be talking about the whole world then?? So technically we are all coloured? So you can't really be referring to someone of an ethnic minority?

Me being a bit whiter in colour than most of you! (Scottish skin)

I think I'm actually more like a magnolia...
How common!

That's it exactly aloha, thank goodness you are here! The term coloured was always used in the sentence beginnning 'we don't think of you as.....', where they think they are being complimentary for making you an honorary white person. Hate it hate it!