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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Staying Springy In Their Quest For Sobriety.

999 replies

Mouseface · 16/04/2012 12:32

Hello, I'm Mouse Smile I have an shockingly abusive relationship with alcohol, mainly vodka.

This Bus is full of drinkers, non-drinkers, thinkers and Babes, all trying to find their way to a happy, sober life.

Some are there, some are almost there and some are not. It really doesn't matter, we're all in this together.

Why not find a seat? Everyone is welcome, drinking or drunk, come and say hello. Smile

HERE is the previous thread, with a link to all of the other wonderful journeys so far............

OP posts:
Sunlituplands · 27/04/2012 20:05

Scoundrel - I don't know you - I have only just joined this thread - but that's exactly the kind of comment that makes me want to drink - sorry, I am sorry for saying that, but it's the pious nature of that comment that makes me reach for the bottle.

& I am sorry - I don't know you - I'm probably speaking out of turn as a newbie here.

But's that's not helpful, really.

GingerWrath · 27/04/2012 20:07

Sorry to the long term posters but, scoundrel you are thoroughly unhelpful

swallowedAfly · 27/04/2012 20:11

we're all at different stages but it is good to be respectful of that - re: the non drinkers try not to judge the people who are trying controlled drinking and the controlled drinkers usually try and have respect for the people who are not drinking at all by not glorying in their drinking.

must admit i'm finding the 'pious' crack and digs at aa a bit much.

swallowedAfly · 27/04/2012 20:11

are you ok scoundrel?

Scoundrel · 27/04/2012 20:14

Well you know I am sober, not least for the help I got on this thread just over a year ago and my AA attendance but I stopped coming here when I got to a point when I was struggling and all I saw was people saying they were again and again on day2/3/6.

I apologise, it's none of my business and only each of your can deal with it in your own way.

Sunlituplands · 27/04/2012 20:16

Right, probably not the place for me then, I am a cynic, can't help that, part of my make-up - just not a jolly, jolly, jolly, 'life's a journey' kind of woman.

Just not.

This is why I drink.

GingerWrath · 27/04/2012 20:17

Well I managed 4 days this week and I can't remember the last chance I had a night off, that is an accomplishment for me, I am glad you are sober, I wish I was, this thread has been awesome for me, please don't spoil it.

SarahRT · 27/04/2012 20:20

Sunlituplands. I recognize you so well. Not in the real sense, but I was just so similar. First drink at 16, and I was an instant alcoholic. It was like coming home. Always witty, glamorous, popular, successful. Until the wheels fell off. Around my late thirties. I just became a drunken middle aged woman. So yes, as a progressive disease it catches up with you in the end. I never took the warning signs seriously. The tolerance levels that were honed to epic levels gradually lessened, the need for being topped up constantly increased, otherwise I would start to fit, not nice an alcoholic fit, until I surrendered. That was 12 years ago and I have been sober since, with one spectacular fall from grace when I arrogantly thought I could control my drinking. I never thought I could live happily without booze, now I wonder what the hell I was doing for 20 odd years. I did have some fabulous times, but the fall out was dreadful. I had to build so many bridges, coming from a place where my confidence was all gone, and my self esteem was in the toilet. It was a very humbling experience, and I am just grateful that I stopped when I did, if I had continued into my 40's I would have been dead or worse, killed someone else. I had gone from a highly functioning alkie to a full blown one within a very short time indeed.

I hope you can beat the bugger.

All babes old and new, have a safe weekend. xx

Hopefullyrecovering · 27/04/2012 20:24

Scoundrel - you are here for lord knows what malicious reasons of your own. Off the bus with you. And off the sidecar too. We are here to provide one another with support. No sniping or other nastiness. This is a safe place.

GingerWrath · 27/04/2012 20:28

Well said hopefully!

swallowedAfly · 27/04/2012 20:33

no, not well said. i really don't think it's anybody here's place to kick people off Confused

Sunlituplands · 27/04/2012 20:34

Thank you SarahT - I am that woman in her late 30's.

Hopefullyrecovering · 27/04/2012 20:35

You are right SAF. You are right.

I apologise, Scoundrel. But just ... This is a safe place. Don't be mean.

swallowedAfly · 27/04/2012 20:39

scoundrel well done on the sobriety. it is obviously a real range on here - people at very different stages with things and therefore different goals. that's the way it's always been. fair play it didn't work for you being on here. it seems to for others. glad aa does work for you.

what made you come read tonight? i get that you got angry when you did read and we all have outbursts of grr sometimes (unless we are saints or something) but what made you come look? are you ok?

Sunnywithachanceofshowers · 27/04/2012 20:44

Scoundrel it sounds like you're having a shit day, I hope it gets better for you.

I've nearly finished my essay, there's no booze in the house (poured it away last night) and I'm sober. I will go to bed sober, thank fuck.

Sunlituplands · 27/04/2012 20:45

Sorry SAF with the pious crack etc - just where I am now - I don't mean to demean or denigrate anyone. Really.

The smack on the arse has made my cry (& I don't fucking cry).

I thought I'd be safe here (& I don't say that in a sarcastic way) - I just thought I would.

GingerWrath · 27/04/2012 20:46

No you get me wrong,I just feel this bus is safe and i hate it being threatened!

Mouseface · 27/04/2012 20:51

WOW!!!

I'm just off to do the new thread, then I'll be back to catch up. It's so fab to see the thread moving and alive with Babes chatting, supporting, and just having a safe place to tell all.

This thread rocks. xx

OP posts:
Scoundrel · 27/04/2012 20:51

I've been reading all along SAF, and I do very much appreciate your understanding. I'm fine thanks Smile, just having a moment Wink

Honestly, it's not worth the rest of you aiming your anger at me unless you think it helps you somehow. There's not one little bit of me that it holier than thou, I simply said why I had left the thread and didn't feel comfortable posting any more, it has no reflection on anyone other than me.

Fairenuff · 27/04/2012 20:51

I think there will a lot of babes out there tonight (and lurkers) trying hard to avoid that first drink. Some of us (very few) can control our drinking enough that it is contained to just weekends, special occasions, whatever.

The majority of Brave Babes are struggling and we are here to help and support those who do not want to drink today. This bus is a safe place for everyone to express their opinions, thoughts, experiences and feelings, provided we are all respectful of each other.

We are a varied group of strong (mostly) women and our opinions do clash occasionally but please bear in mind that whatever you post should be with the best intentions x

P.S. The thread will end at 1000 posts so if a new one is not linked in time just look for it in relationships - don't want to leave anyone behind.

Now - All Aboard!! Tickets please Grin

Fairenuff · 27/04/2012 20:52

Ah x post Mouse, well done Smile

SarahRT · 27/04/2012 20:52

Pretty gruesome isn't Sunlit? And the stupid thing is that you see it better than anyone else, it's only fear that keeps you drinking. And it's a bloody scary thought not to drink, like saying goodbye to your bestest friend in the whole wide world. Real bereavement, I grieved for weeks, months. I needed to and I allowed myself to be self pitying and angry. It was better than being the old soak who was just so enthralled with this legal drug that I would manipulate any situation so that I could get what I wanted. Then expect sympathy for the state I got into. Ugh. Since getting rid of the monkey on my back, loosing the guilt complex and gaining real self confidence, not the fakery I surrounded myself with I was really liberated, and now I don't people please, I certainly don't take notice of what people think of me, I am strong and my own woman. Someone once said to me another drunk who doesn't drink anymore I would rather live standing up than die on my knees. If you want to get sober, even for a short time, I recommend it, and if you don't well that's up to you as well.

Carrie370 · 27/04/2012 20:59

Sunlit, please don't let a spat drive you away; you'll be safe here x

Sunnywithachanceofshowers · 27/04/2012 21:01

Sunlit hang around chick. x

Sunlituplands · 27/04/2012 21:03

I do SarahT - I do.

When I'm there I just drink & drink & drink & if there are any prescription drugs there I shove them down as well - why? I don't fucking know - I court oblivion - I welcome its embrace, I hug it to me, soft & warm.

I don't know why.

I just want it.

I'm crying quite a lot - I don't welcome it.