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Support thread for survivors of childhood sexual abuse.

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CailinDana · 19/03/2012 12:51

I was severely sexually abused as a child. I have spent the last few years trying to come to terms with it and I'm slowly getting there.

I have found that a huge barrier to dealing with it is the lack of space to talk about it, how I feel and what I think. It's like this horrible painful scar that I have to keep covered for fear of offending other people. It has been a massive source of shame.

I don't really feel like keeping it covered any more. Yes I was abused, in a horrible, horrific way, but I'm still a good person and I'm still capable of being happy.

I'm hoping this thread will be a place for people to open up about things that happened to them. A fantastic, caring poster on MN spent hours yesterday "listening" to me and it has helped me immensely. I would like to do that for other people.

Nothing is taboo. Say as much or as little as you like. Say what you think and feel even if you think it sounds batty. I will bump this thread regularly so even if you're not ready to post now, it will be here for you at a later stage.

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garlicbutter · 27/03/2012 13:51

Another story from group therapy - this is about a woman I was close friends with for several months (adds up to quite an intense relationship in that setting!)

She had been sexually abused from early childhood at the instigation of her mother, who was very sexually prolific and public. It seems clear the mother had also been abused as a child; she had no boundaries. My friend was an alcoholic cocaine addict and was also being treated for sex addiction. She was very rich, accomplished and beautiful.

Nearly ALL the doctors who had treated her had sexually abused her. They included one of our consultants, who was sacked & struck off after she and another patient complained. The feeling this gave me was weird - I was disgusted by her doctors, sympathetic to her, and also had a little internal niggle going "But why don't they fancy meeee?" Confused Anyway, she was asking much the same question which is what I wanted to write about.

She gave off signals of sexual availability all the time. When she entered a room, she would sort of hover at the door, toss her hair about, and stay there until a certain proportion of the men in the room had noticed her. It sounds cartoonish, but was done in a very sophisticated manner. I've actually copied it a few times, to see if it works (it does.) She was unrelentingly flirtatious with men, again not too overtly but over-the-top for an everyday situation. I found it quite hard to spot this, which taught me I had a similar problem.

Verbally, her lack of boundaries showed up quite prominently. Bearing in mind that most of the men we met were also dysfunctional, they would push quite subtly for weaknesses and she fell every time - becoming more vivacious and flirty as they barged through one boundary after another.

What I'm trying to say here is not that it's her fault she was abused. It's about how healthy socialisation teaches us a thousand little ways to set out our stalls and build our barricades. While my socialisation didn't teach me my main worth was a sexy body as my friend's had, it did teach me similar damaging lessons about my value to others, particularly men, and my individual rights - or lack of same.

I think it's crucial for adult survivors of dysfunctional families to learn all we can about healthy values, assertiveness, social 'games' and boundaries. If we don't set ourselves to learn, we can only carry on using the dysfunctional values we have and pass those on to younger generations. For myself, I need inner-child therapy in order to learn 'from the inside out' but I'm not sure everyone does.

My friend did not get fixed, by the way :( As far as I know, she's still going round having inappropriate sex while guzzling coke and gin. She'll be doing it with a couple of boundaries now, though, which can only be a good thing ...

garlicbutter · 27/03/2012 13:53

Cailin, I was replying to earlier posts and hadn't seen your recent. Did you quit the jobs in anticipation of being fired? I used to do that!

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 13:54

Dana, what is your 'field' career wise? What subject is your degree in? There may be possibilities to work from home if that would be easier for you? Like you I did well at school. Although I didn't especially like school, I liked the fact that it was less of a minefield at home. I found that if I did well at exams and was polite the teachers would generally like me and be nice to me. I ended up going to Oxbridge and I remember clearly one of my twisted, abusive family members saying: "the thought of you going there is the most preposterous thing I have heard all year. I've really heard it all now."

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 13:56

Nearly ALL the doctors who had treated her had sexually abused her.

Wow. That is so sad. I don't trust male doctors at all.

PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:00

KarmaK what a bastard, thats the problem with disclosing, sometimes it all seems so fucked up.

Cailin yep I've dated a few, never allowed them in my home or near my DS, tis why I'm single.

I had gone no contact with my family when I heard about my DN, went back and helped SS get evidence, my family reacted so badly and blame me for not supporting my sibling but my DN are now safe/safer I hope, god only knows, she's not allowed to keep any child now.

CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:00

Yes I think deep down I thought I was going to be fired garlic. I have zero confidence in myself workwise, even though I come across as very confident. All my bosses have been very complimentary about my work - in fact one boss was so keen to make me stay that she let me work from my home town (where DH lived, at the other side of the country), increased my salary and offered to pay for a masters and organise a supervisor for me. I still quit Blush. I convince myself that I'm useless and I get so stressed that I spiral downwards until I feel unable to do anything else except quit.

My degree is in psychology Karma and my postgrad is in primary teaching, so not really things that lend themselves to home working. I'm supposed to be writing a book but I am so convinced I'll fail that I don't even bother trying.

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CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:02

Just to clarify in case anyone's worried, the book has nothing to do with this thread.

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garlicbutter · 27/03/2012 14:08

What I wanted to say, Karma, was not that "All men will if they can" because that is NOT true.

I was trying to highlight what the Counsel to the GMC said in the article you linked:
"It may seem surprising the patient did not realise sooner what was happening but he said given her past and vulnerability she was unaware."

MOST men would react to a woman like my friend with "WTF?! She is weird!"

That men with such rotten boundaries should be in positions of influence with such damaged psyches is horrible and wrong. But, do you see, they choose those roles because it will give them access to vulnerable women. They are oddballs, not functional male adults.

When I questioned whether the consultant fancied me, it had absolutely nothing to do with one of us being more or less attractive. It was, completely, a matter of his recognising her dysfunction and exploiting it. He did that because he is wrong in the head - it was not a normal, healthy, male response.

PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:10

When I went against my family for SS, my family told me I was a bitch for being so nasty to my sibling. SS were using me as a safe place to take my DN in a crisis, I had to fill in body charts and give consent for police and medical intervention. I wasn't allowed other people near them incase I also abused them, hence the body charts. SS got more power to protect my DN because of mebut I still feel guilty and responsible that I was to blame. I've never spoken about this before and if it's a problem I'll go.

CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:13

I agree garlic. Normal men look at women with poor boundaries and see someone who's a bit off rather than someone attractive. I had a housemate once who behaved very oddly, even to the point of taking off her top one night while talking to another housemate that she fancied. Said housemate was shocked and didn't take advantage of her vulnerability. Another, less kind man would have. She saw the fact that he didn't jump on her as a rejection but in fact he was protecting her. It was because her boundaries were unhealthy that she couldn't see that.

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garlicbutter · 27/03/2012 14:16

I empathise, Cailin! I turned down a job that would have made me an international star in my field & filthy rich, after being approached directly for it. I told them I didn't think I was ready for it!!

If only "this me" could go back and have quiet a word with "old me" ...

CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:19

Garlic to an extent I think my brain was holding me back because I knew I wasn't able for the full-on lifestyle that I was heading for. I need a slow pace and as little stress as possible or else I get ill. I learned that the hard way. In some ways I regret the decisions I've made but at the same time I am happy with the way my life is now, for the most part. Yes I could have had a very successful career but unfortunately that wasn't to be. Perhaps I'll have it in the future. Who knows.

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PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:24

Cailin, I was worried someone might write my story but it was from a "I can't bear how pathetic and horrible and hateful I am" now I wouldn't give a toss, it's one story in many, write what you want, sounds absolutely wonderful and I'd write if I didn't see his face.

Garlic, I do worry about social situations but can only keep trying, awful about your friend.

PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:29

Wow, you're all so bloody clever and sucessful, I'm a right dimwit and will end up in tesco :)

CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:32

Strangely enough Plink, the longest time I ever stayed in a job was when I worked part time in a shop during uni. I worked there for three years and I absolutely loved it, I used to look forward to going in for a natter. We were those awful shop assistants who only stop talking to bark the price Blush

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CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:34

I'm going to start a new thread now just in case this one fills up while I'm toddler taming.

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KarmaK · 27/03/2012 14:34

and will end up in tesco

Don't most of us go to Tesco regularly? :)

PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:36

:) Cailin

PlinkPasta · 27/03/2012 14:48

karma :) I meant as a shelf stacker or something, nothing wrong with working in tesco etc I should have said a minimum wage job with no chance of home owning, saving, holidays etc. I have shelf stacked before but was always skint.

CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:48

Let's leave this thread here, on a positive, smiley note, and move to the other one.

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CailinDana · 27/03/2012 14:52

Oops should have linked, sorry. New thread is here.

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ManicPanic · 27/03/2012 17:44

PlinkPasta when you said 'getting in a funk' I imagined someone in an afro wig and gold lame flared jumpsuit - like the Simpson's Disco Stu. Made me chuckle!

But yes I definitely go through phases of constant triggering and flashbacks.

NHAN · 27/03/2012 21:45

I haven't caught up yet, but just wanted to reply to Genesgirl.
Yes I reported my abuse 7 years ago. They arrested my father but the case was dropped due to lack of evidence. However the police completely refused to investigate the abuse I suffered at the prison or connected to it. They also somehow forgot or decided not to report the abuse I suffered in a neighbouring county to them. I tried to report more 2 years ago but they lied and said they had already investigated things when I know they hadn't. They burnt my statements and 2 police officers quit over it. I have had it confirmed by people who work in the field of sexual abuse that the police are covering it up. I've been very angry about it since but its getting easier.
I came up against far more than most people will when they report abuse but you have to feel strong enough to deal with any outcome.
I wish I could be positive about reporting abuse, I still feel it is the best thing to do, but there are sick people in high places and its sadly its not as easy as it should be to get justice.
Please don't see this as a complete negative because reporting what happened to you may well be what you need to do. Just don't rush in to anything you may not be ready for x

Belleflowers · 24/05/2012 16:02

I am new here,

Basically getting flashbacks of a time when my sister was the target, never me...but i still witnessed emptional abuse, never sexual though...not sure if this is the right place to post?

starting therapy next week and started a mild antiD for PND last week

I'm 33

basically Since I had DD 3 yrs ago, and older DS was going through his toddler tantrums, I couldnt work out why I was sooooo uncomfortble with the noise of crying. Flashbacks of my mother regularly hitting my sister with the long bamboo stick she kept behind the sofa in our tv room - as i said it a previous post somewhere else, that it was yes supposed to be a place of comfort and safety but wasnt

middle class parents, both teachers, beuatiful house near a beach

you would think they could have released their anger and stress from their work by taking a long walk on that beach rather than coming home and picking a fight that lasted all evening several times a week, over nothing with my apparently 'cheeky' older sister (3yrs older than me)

anyhow, thanks for letting me get this out

most confusing for me is that up until my sister and I hit puberty, I have golden memories...but after I started grammar school, until my sister went to uni, it was just noisy, unsettled, agressive and stressful living

plus despite my being there when they were in a rage, I was never enough to protect my sister and make it stop

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