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I really need some honest advice please.

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uknowme · 27/10/2003 01:19

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uknowme · 28/10/2003 23:52

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uknowme · 28/10/2003 23:55

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sykes · 28/10/2003 23:56

Of course I'm not. Just lots of luck and things.

Zora · 29/10/2003 00:05

Uknowme,

Like some people said on my other thread about sex that it is important in the marriage and specially that sex is important to men.Yes I may agree but how can you feel loved and relaxed when you have all those memories about what happened between you and your husband.
I am in exactlly the same situation. I can't let those memories go. I put off sex as much as I can to the moment that we argue about it and then I only wait what will follow. I sometimes got one of my dd to come to my bed so that my husband went to sleep in her bed so that I didn't have to be next to him at night.
But yet I do pretty much nothing about it long term. I guess I am waiting to see what time will bring. But it is no fun to be in this kind of situation.
I do communicate with my husband a lot. I tel him what I want and what bothers me but he then says o yeh.... and it is all about you, you and you.
And he calls me selfish. and then I say no more. Just so I can avoid another argument.
So the only thing I said to myself is well I am with him for my children but when they become adults I may be brave enough and leave if it is not too late.

Hugss and kisses.

doormat · 29/10/2003 08:05

Zora never stay just for the children. Happiness is what life should be about.

fio2 · 29/10/2003 08:57

agree with doormat, we are only here once so best make the most of it

winnie1 · 29/10/2003 09:53

uknowme, I'm not sure this will help but maybe you should ask yourself what you will do next time your husband wants sex and you don't. If it is to give in because you are afraid of the consequences then you know that he has succeeded in putting fear into you and sadly that is a huge thing to deal with. He will have a lot to do to regain your trust. It is interesting that you'd forgotten that he'd punched you before and you'd never talked about it. The first time my daughters father laid a finger on me he kicked me down a flight of stairs, I was pregnant at the time, we never talked about that. There was a conspiracy of silence by both of us. The silence meant that we could both pretend that life was fine, the abuse that followed was ignored and life went on 'normally' in between each incident. Normal was however far from normal because I lived knowing that at some point I would be on the receiving end of his foot or fist. The point being that I really think your confronting your husband and talking about it with him is a courageous first step. No one can pretend it has not happened. I hope you do get to relate and good luck, it is very easy to say 'I would leave if someone laid a finger on me' but in reality it is so much more complicated. I did leave eventually largely because I did not want my daughter growing up in such an abusive environment, my self esteem was such that I could not have left for me. I probably believed I deserved it. Why would someone considered such a 'nice' guy treat me in such a way otherwise. I "obviously" provoked it. besides his abuse included mental abuse that constantly told me I was worthless and pathetic. If told it often enough one believes one can't cope without them despite the abuse. It was only once I'd got away from him and started telling people what had happened that I really saw how bad it had been, weirdly it had become normal as in habitual. I started to gain my sense of self and my daughter and I quickly moved on to a wonderful violence free life. He tried to intimidate me a couple of years ago having reappeared, briefly, in my daughters life and it was interesting. He expected the my response to be that of the old me. It felt fantastic not to be intimidated and afraid of him. Anyway, I am rambling... take care, thinking of you xxxx

winnie1 · 29/10/2003 10:00

Zora, I have just read your post and it is so sad, can I say that staying for the children is frankly a red herring. The children will not be unscathed from all of what you are going through however much you think they don't know. You do not deserve to be treated like this, and neither do your children. Please try to get some support and control over your life. It doesn't mean your marraige has to end but it does mean he has to want to change. If he doesn't want to change waiting for your children to grow up is a long time to wait and by then it may be too late. You are worth so much more than this. Thinking of you too, take care xxxx

Twinkie · 29/10/2003 10:07

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uknowme · 29/10/2003 10:40

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doormat · 29/10/2003 10:44

uknowme
I think you have answered your situation yourself.

The fact you are "dreading" him coming on to you.

Do you really want to live your life like that????

uknowme · 29/10/2003 10:46

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doormat · 29/10/2003 10:49

uknowme
I sincerely hope this can be sorted out for you,whatever you decide.
hugs
xxx
take care

Twinkie · 29/10/2003 10:49

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doormat · 29/10/2003 10:52

twinkie calm down please I dont think uknowme really needs to listen to this at the moment.
I know you have been in a violent relationship, so have I but she needs support not being nagged at.

uknowme · 29/10/2003 10:56

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doormat · 29/10/2003 11:00

uknowme you are not pathetic.

I understand totally what twinkie is saying and I hop she is not offended by my post.

But that is what suffering domestic violence does to a person, it makes you angry and see red all the time when you hear of this sort of thing going on.
Dont forget we have been there, and yes one punch can lead to more (not all the time but most of the time)
Twinkie and I fear for you and any other woman or man going through this as it really is a shit existence living under domestic violence in whatever shape or form.

Twinkie · 29/10/2003 11:01

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uknowme · 29/10/2003 11:02

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aloha · 29/10/2003 11:03

Nobody's judging you uknowme, we're judging HIM. He's vile and nasty and bad. How on earth can 'being incredibly excited about being parents' translate into punching you in the face? Can you hear how bizarre that sounds? When I was pg dh loved me more and treated me more gently. No I'm not boasting, I think that's normal and routine. You didn't 'humiliate' him. He has the problem. It's not anything you did to him, he has to take responsibility for his violence and as he refuses to I feel very pessimistic for your future. My husband has 'refused' sex with me before because he's tired or worried or feeling under the weather. Do you think I would be justified in hurting him because of it? Of course not. He's trying to scare you re your home and lifestyle. But you know what? He's the one who's really scared. He knows how much he has to lose - his home, his wife, his kids, most of his income, half his pension - the lot. And he's trying to project that onto you. Do be strong. If you can't bring yourself to throw him out (don't even think about leaving - he's the one who has to go) then go to the counselling - but don't let him get away with this, please. BTW I don't know who you are.

aloha · 29/10/2003 11:04

Oh, no, you DO NOT sound 'pathetic' - he does. He really, truly does.

Twinkie · 29/10/2003 11:05

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doormat · 29/10/2003 11:06

No I dont think you should leave permanently at the moment but I think you need to give your dh the shock of his life so he knows you mean business
by either leaving for a short while with your children
or throw him out for a whil until he gets help
or report the incident to the police

but you definitely need to tell your family.