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Leaving an emotionally abusive relationship - my story

508 replies

preciouslittlegems · 18/09/2011 23:34

Sorry, this is long! I'm just not sure what to think about a conversation I had earlier with DH. He was not joking and this is set in the context of a relationship that has broken down and we no longer share a bedroom. He is bitter as he wants things to return to the way they were, for us both to compromise. I don't want to because he has been quite severely empotionally abusive and I don't want to get emotionally involved with him again, as I feel it is not a good place for me to be. I am being supported the local DV service because of the abuse. I am finding it really hard to leave the relationship because I don't know how he will react and today's conversation has made me even more uncertain (he has also threatened to kill himself many times).

I was preparing dinner with a sharp knife. He came up to me and told me not to stab him with it (he said the same thing last week). I took it as a joke and replied I'm not in the habit of killing people. He, speaking quite seriously, told me that he often thinks about killing people and asked if I do. I said no, of course not. He said he was surprised given the state of our relationship. He said he thinks less about stabbing people and more about suffocating and poisoning people. He said he lays awake at night thinking about it a lot. I was stunned at this point but decided to find out more. I asked if there was any one in particular he thought about killing (I could see where this was heading) and he said it was me he thought about, in particular poisoning. I calmly told him that he would go to prison and he said only if found out. I told him that he would be a prime suspect and he then went on a bit about things I do that upset him, including sharing with family and friends things he would rather I didn't (the abuse). I asked how he planned to poison me he said he wouldn't tell me because I would run off and phone someone and tell them. I asked if that was the only reason he wouldn't tell me, as I would not have a clue how to poison someone. He said that I have no idea what he knows and that he knows a lot more than I realise.

I sound very calm above but I don't feel it. This has freaked me out and is the reason I don't leave as I am unsure what he is capable of. He has mentioned poison to me a few times, e.g. told me there is poison in my cup of tea he has made me as he hands it to me (for no reason).

Am I being paranoid? Should I laugh it off? Am I unable to take a joke? He was definitely not joking but if I asked him about it again or involved other people, he would say I couldn't take a joke. He regularly makes really nasty comments to me. Since the incident he has been in a bad mood and barely talked to me apart from to shout a bit and criticise various things I have done and the state of the house.

I would just value any views. Do you think he has said this to frighten me to behave and be a proper wife again and not leave, or is there something more sinister to worry about? I feel this is the last straw but I am scared. I feel trapped.

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spenditwisely · 03/10/2011 17:23

That's such a great story with a happy ending.

Now you can get on with your life and be the great mum that you are without him dragging you down.

hester · 03/10/2011 17:24

Really good news, precious Smile

nodrog · 03/10/2011 19:08

Precious, I am so pleased. Good luck for the future.

hevak · 03/10/2011 19:09

Great news Precious! I logged in specifically to check how today went for you. I'm so glad everything went well.

NettleTea · 03/10/2011 19:32

fantastic news, and hopefully someone else in a similar situation will feel able to do as you did and get free if they are reading.
You are an inspiration
xxxx

Selks · 03/10/2011 19:54

That's brilliant....now make sure that you change all the locks as soon as you move back in....the very moment you move in. Arrange for a locksmith to meet you as soon as you get there and get them all changed. You are not safe if he can just let himself in.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 03/10/2011 20:20

I'm so very pleased for you precious - the Court has done the right thing and hopefully you will now be able to start putting your life back together, and living it free of fear.

Once you and the dc are back in your own home, please change all door entry locks. Fit window locks & security/pir lights if you don't aready have them and consider installing cctv - it's not expensive these days. As standard precautions, if you have a gas boiler/cooker buy a carbon monoxide detecter and keep a fire extinguisher by the front door or seal the letterbox up.

Some time back I described your h as most probably an everyday sociopath of the common and garden type, and that remains my view. This type is rarely violent and they tend to move on quickly to the next scene/drama/victim.

Nevertheless, they have excellent memories when it comes to real and imagined slights against themselves, and they can bear longterm grudges under a facade of easygoing bonhomie.

Your h has had 3 'triggers' in a short space of time - the death of his dm, disciplinary proceedings at work, and now he's required to get out of his home and out of your life. For the time being, do not allow yourself to become complacent or underestimate him - particularly if you do not hear news of him 'walking out' with a new lady friend in the near future.

Is it likely that you may bump into him from time to time as you go around your hometown? If so, be on guard for any pattern - i.e always same time, same day, increased frequency etc.

Did he not turn up at Court or did he send a solicitor to represent him and agree to to any Orders? When you have time, it may help others if you can give a brief account of what actually happened at Court - what your/his solicitor said and what comments, if any, the Judge made.

In the meantime, I'm delighted for you. Your success in Court is no more than you deserve - and it is richly deserved.

I know you've been through hell over the past 2 weeks but YOU'VE COME THROUGH. In the process you've vindicated everyone's faith and belief that you were doing the right thing, and I hope that your story will be an inspiration to anyone else who may be fearful of leaving an abusive spouse/partner.

I suspect you'll sleep well tonight - especially if you have a celebratory Wine

swallowedAfly · 03/10/2011 21:52

great news Smile

i second all the advice about locks and not being complacent. i also think you should take someone with you when you go tomorrow just in case he is there waiting for a scene - and with that in mind maybe not take the kids there till you're sure the coast is clear.

also reminding you to change stuff around and make some changes to make the place your own.

and enjoy the peace and the space and the freedom to take care of you and the kids in your own way without eggshells or elephants in the room.

breathe!

ThereGoesTheFear · 03/10/2011 22:18

That's fantastic, Precious! :)

ZhenXiang · 03/10/2011 22:22

Fantastic news Precious, I hope that this will allow you and the kids to get back to some sort of normality.

All the advice on changing locks, being vigilant and aware needs to be taken note of, orders can be broken so keep looking out for yourself and the kids.

Well done on staying strong and having the courage to leave and follow it through. I hope that you are going to get some counselling to help you process everything that has happened, good luck, we are still here to support you if you need us x

WhoresHairKnickers · 03/10/2011 22:47

That's really great news Precious :)
I'm so glad that the view by everyone (including the police) on DV has changed from the way it was in the 80's when I was in the middle of it.

Good luck for the future :)

Jux · 03/10/2011 22:56

Excellent news, precious. So pleased for you and your dcs.

Do follow up on the counselling though, it'll really help you to sort out your head and remember who you really are when you don't have xh around telling you who you are.

Sleep well, sweet dreams.

kingbeat23 · 04/10/2011 08:17

Hiya Precious,

If you still want the fireproof letterbox cover, it's got your name on it. Just let me know a posting address in the PM i sent you.

Am so pleased that this has been the outcome, throughout this whole process of reading you pour your heart out to us, there have been so many times when I've thought "yep, I know that one...and that one...and that one" and it is so nice to hear you are back in the family home...and happy about it too.

May you have much luck, love and joy in your life now that you are free to enjoy it with your children without fear of violence in your life.

mammya · 04/10/2011 08:43

Fantastic news Precious! :)
You've been so brave, you truly are an inspiration.

IWantWine · 04/10/2011 13:23

You are amazing and that is such good news.

I hope this thread (if you dont mind that is) stays around as an inspiration to others who have not been able to take that first step to freedom.

And like others have said, do not let your guard down, dont trust him.

ravenousbugblatterbeast · 04/10/2011 19:37

If others might find this useful, now that the crisis phase has passed (and OP's nosy parker DS has stopped snooping on Mumsnet quite so much...) would it be possible to move this back to Relationships so it won;t get deleted after 30 days, but change the title (to something like "Have to leave EA situation") and maybe even namechange the OP in retrospect if that's possible (to something like AllSoPrecious?) so DS wouldn't recognise the posting name in passing? Is this possible MNHQ?

preciouslittlegems · 05/10/2011 01:21

I'm back in the house and the DC's are soundly tucked up in bed. Everything has gone well so far. I friend came back with me for a couple of hours last night and helped me rearrange the bedrooms and me and Ravenous have been washing dishes and sorting through the food cupboards today. I couldn't quite bring myself to eat anything that could have been tampered with, so most has gone in the bin. Poor Ravenous was tied to the kitchen sink all day! Then me and the kids had fish and chips for tea to celebrate coming home. DS2 is fine but DS1 keeps throwing major wobblies. I think he is going to need some help.

Unfortunately, I still don't feel 100% safe as the DV service have put me onto a council scheme that will help make the house safe for me but they say it is illegal to change the locks, as XH (ahh, that feels good) is a homeowner too. They will fit window locks (which I already have) and secure the letterbox but will not change the locks. Does anyone have any advice on this. All the doors are plastic, so I don't think I can have bolts fitted.

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Bogeyface · 05/10/2011 01:37

Leave the key in the door, turned off centre so it cant be pushed out, this works on standard and PVC doors. If the barrel is off centre then the key cant be pushed out, infact with a standard lock you can work it round so the key will come out but with a PVC one, you cant. It also helps you because in the event that you need to get out in say a fire (god forbid) then the key is already in the lock and you dont need to find it.

I got this from my CID friend.

Jux · 05/10/2011 01:38

Hooray for you, precious!

No advice, but didn't that lock get broken so you had to put a new one on?

preciouslittlegems · 05/10/2011 01:59

Nice one, Jux. I'm sure the police and the barrister told me to change the locks once I got the order, so I will call them tomorrow and make a decision. The keys are in the locks tonight and I will go down now and turn them off centre.

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Bogeyface · 05/10/2011 02:04

Not criticising the WA organisations at all , but I I think that police and lawyers have a better idea of what is legal so you should follow their advice. And even if it did prove to be an issue at some point, the fact that you followed police advice should cover you.

Sleep well x

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 05/10/2011 02:46

The problem is that wouldn't work some standard yale and mortice locks, Bogey, as the key can only be inserted from the outside.

If the door has key entry on the inside it would work, but it wouldn't advisable if the door has a glass panel through which the key can be seen as any intruder would only need to smash the glass, put their hand through, and turn the key to gain entry.

As Jux has suggested, it's entirely possible that keys may get stuck and snap off in the back and front door locks necessitating changing the locks

Should this occur you will, naturally, supply new keys to stbxh over your dead body when you get around to having extra copies made but, as your non-molestation order should ensure that he doesn't come any where near the property, it's unlikely he'll know about any change.

However, DS1's behaviour is of some concern. Is he disapproving of what you have done? Is he blaming you for the absence of his f? Is he trying to step into his f's shoes and become the 'man' of the household? Does he have a house key? Is he likely to tell his f if locks are changed and maybe make one available to be copied?

I suggest you weigh up this latter potential problem if you change the locks and consider installing a cctv system - even a dummy camera will act as some deterrent.

Is your property overlooked by neighbours who may be willing to tell you if they see or have seen stbxh in the immediate vicinity?

BTW, please don't hesitate to seek help for DS1 - either ask your dv worker about available child counselling services or ask your GP to refer him to a child psychology unit. Hopefully, DS1 will soon pull out of any tailspin he appears to be going through, but even though DS2 may seem unaffected he may benefit from some sessions of 'play therapy'.

In short, as you've all been through considerable trauma, it's going to take time for you to process the past and readjust to your changed (for the better) circumstances, and you're best advised to go easy on yourselves and each other for as long as it takes to become accustomed to your new lifestyle.

preciouslittlegems · 06/10/2011 00:41

Yes, DS1 is causing some concern. I went into his school today and they have been excellent. They are going to provide some support and they may fund external counselling. They are concerned about what he has witnessed and experienced over the past few years. He is all confused and unhappy and is blaming me for breaking up the family. It's hard to hear but I'm staying calm and supportive. He seems really angry. I also have another contact at the council for him.

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 06/10/2011 01:47

If anyone else reading this needs any encouragement to leave sooner rather than later, I hope that they'll take note of what's happened to your ds over the years and the problems it has left him with.

Of course he's angry, precious. His home circumstances have dramatically changed but he can't yet see that it is for the better and, nosy as he may have been on this site, he wasn't privy to all that went on between you and his df.

He's grown up believing that what he's witnessed and experienced in his family home is 'normal and he's angry with you for, as he sees it, sending his df away for no good reason.

He may be relating more to his df than you at the moment, but I'm confident that with the right therapy he'll be able to process all that he's witnessed and experienced over the years and realise that you're not the villain of the piece.

Hopefully, he'll also realise that there was nothing he could have done to change the way it was or to 'make it better' between you and his df, and that none of what has happened is 'his fault'. In the meantime, all you can do is do as you are doing in being calm and supportive.

He'll probably lead you a merry dance before he calms down and that's not what you need when your nerves have so recently been through the shredder but, given time, he'll get there and life will become everything you hoped it would be.

Once you've been back home for a week I'm sure you'll all feel more settled and the best advice I can give you is to take it one step at a time, do some fun things with your ds, and make time for yourself.

Did the Court grant your Orders because your application was undefended? I ask in the interests of those who may be on the brink of making the break and who may be worried about the Court process.

preciouslittlegems · 06/10/2011 13:50

Yes Izzy, XH turned up at court and agreed to everything. I had been advised that my occupancy application was the least likely to have been granted, especially on a non-emergency basis. I would therefore advise anyone in a similar situation to go for an emergency occupation order, if at all possible.

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