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Leaving an emotionally abusive relationship - my story

508 replies

preciouslittlegems · 18/09/2011 23:34

Sorry, this is long! I'm just not sure what to think about a conversation I had earlier with DH. He was not joking and this is set in the context of a relationship that has broken down and we no longer share a bedroom. He is bitter as he wants things to return to the way they were, for us both to compromise. I don't want to because he has been quite severely empotionally abusive and I don't want to get emotionally involved with him again, as I feel it is not a good place for me to be. I am being supported the local DV service because of the abuse. I am finding it really hard to leave the relationship because I don't know how he will react and today's conversation has made me even more uncertain (he has also threatened to kill himself many times).

I was preparing dinner with a sharp knife. He came up to me and told me not to stab him with it (he said the same thing last week). I took it as a joke and replied I'm not in the habit of killing people. He, speaking quite seriously, told me that he often thinks about killing people and asked if I do. I said no, of course not. He said he was surprised given the state of our relationship. He said he thinks less about stabbing people and more about suffocating and poisoning people. He said he lays awake at night thinking about it a lot. I was stunned at this point but decided to find out more. I asked if there was any one in particular he thought about killing (I could see where this was heading) and he said it was me he thought about, in particular poisoning. I calmly told him that he would go to prison and he said only if found out. I told him that he would be a prime suspect and he then went on a bit about things I do that upset him, including sharing with family and friends things he would rather I didn't (the abuse). I asked how he planned to poison me he said he wouldn't tell me because I would run off and phone someone and tell them. I asked if that was the only reason he wouldn't tell me, as I would not have a clue how to poison someone. He said that I have no idea what he knows and that he knows a lot more than I realise.

I sound very calm above but I don't feel it. This has freaked me out and is the reason I don't leave as I am unsure what he is capable of. He has mentioned poison to me a few times, e.g. told me there is poison in my cup of tea he has made me as he hands it to me (for no reason).

Am I being paranoid? Should I laugh it off? Am I unable to take a joke? He was definitely not joking but if I asked him about it again or involved other people, he would say I couldn't take a joke. He regularly makes really nasty comments to me. Since the incident he has been in a bad mood and barely talked to me apart from to shout a bit and criticise various things I have done and the state of the house.

I would just value any views. Do you think he has said this to frighten me to behave and be a proper wife again and not leave, or is there something more sinister to worry about? I feel this is the last straw but I am scared. I feel trapped.

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 19/09/2011 00:03

No, you need to do it now. Tonight

Where is he now? Call police.

nextchapter · 19/09/2011 00:04

Get out NOW. For your children and yourself. You are NOT safe

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:05

Tiff if she attempts to leave now he may do something? Unless he is not their then leave now yes of course!

preciouslittlegems · 19/09/2011 00:05

He works at home, so it is hard to do anything without him seeing. He rarely goes out. My sister describes him as unhinged. I can't leave tonight as both DC asleep. I do have a lock on the bedroom door and DS2 is asleep in here with me (he doesn't like to sleep alone).

I did call my sister earlier and she doesn;t think he will do anything but I'm not so sure. Part of me wonders if he said this to me to relieve the burden of his bad thoughts. He has done this before - shared things in a detacted sort of way to ease his mind. I think he has thought about this before. he sometimes says that he is a really bad person to me. On holiday he threatened to kill himself and DS1 heard. Later DS1 was upset and worried because he had heard on the news that a depresses and suicidal man had killed himself and the whole family.

I'm not sure I dare go to sleep, even with the door locked.

OP posts:
FabbyChic · 19/09/2011 00:05

If she tries to leave tonight he will stop her, she has two children to pick up and leave with.

However, if she has somewhere to go, she can ring the police tell them she wants to leave and believes he will be violent and not let her leave and can they escort her out of the house.

She can do that.

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:06

Unless you call police and get them to escourt you and dc now too place of safety womens aid....will they do that?

FabbyChic · 19/09/2011 00:06

Can you push something up against the door?

GypsyMoth · 19/09/2011 00:07

Call the police. That's how you 'leave'

I have been there, with a suicidal man who wanted to kill me. He nearly did

GypsyMoth · 19/09/2011 00:08

If you want to get out, then you can maybe pm one of us details to send police out to you, or a friend via Facebook chat?

eekamouse2 · 19/09/2011 00:11

Can you say where your nearest town is, and one of us can call the local cops ? I think you should also delete your history of this thread if he's likely to snoop

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:11

Listen to Tiff...she been in your shoes....he has voiced his thoughts maybe he is ready...sorry don't mean to scare you even more:(

He may be getting voices commanding him to do it or the depression is giving him such violent thoughts since coming off meds...what your ds1 said is correct

preciouslittlegems · 19/09/2011 00:13

My DS1 is bigger that DH, I'm wondering whether to get him into the bedroom tonight - I don't want to turn him against his dad but he knows how badly he treats me and himself and DS1 sometimes too. Then lock the door as we will all be together. I'm not sure if H is asleep and will hear us. I don't want to upset him. I'm due at a really important day at work tomorrow, too, all week infact and it's hard for someone else to take my place.

OP posts:
LeBOF · 19/09/2011 00:15

They'll have to find someone if you're dead, won't they? Jesus, get some help now.

PurpleHat · 19/09/2011 00:15

Okay, a few things:

  1. Could you tell one of us your identity in a private message so that if you feel that you need help, somebody can get it for you?
  2. I really think that you need to let one of us call the Police and get you out of there now. Tonight. He does not sound stable.
  3. Is your laptop password protected to ensure that he can't access this site/your posts/history?
duchesse · 19/09/2011 00:17

Listen to the sound advice already given. He is not safe. Either he is trying to fuck with your mind by threatening in a really sinister calm way (bad enough in itself), or he means it. Either way you are not safe. The hardest step in all this is going to be to call the police and start the ball rolling. It may be easier to ask someone else to do it for you (maybe your sister would although it doesn't sound as though she'd be all that helpful). The police WILL take you seriously but you DO need to follow through with it once you've started. To backtrack after involving the appropriate authorities will make him feel as though he's "won" (as screwed up as that may seem). It honestly sounds to me as though he needs sectioning- he does not sound at all right.

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:18

you will not sleep with all this will you?

you think ds1 will be ok...this man has said about suffocating people in their sleep...size doesnt matter for that....it takes a lot of men by the way to hold a man down who is psychotic! Their strength is of 10 men.

preciouslittlegems · 19/09/2011 00:18

I think the police will think I am overreacting. But I also know that I have read other threads where you have wanted to OP to call the police/leave and I have wondered why they don't follow the advice. When you are in the situation you do feel you are overreacting.

My SIL is a Dr, I wish I had called her earlier, she's voiced concerns about him before. It's too late now tonight.

OP posts:
ZhenXiang · 19/09/2011 00:19

Get DC1 and take him into your bedroom and barricade/lock the door whilst you call Women's Aid about a refuge (0808 2000 247) and the police.

Phone your sister/friend/family if she is nearby to tell her to expect you plus kids to stay and get the police to escort you there for tonight.

duchesse · 19/09/2011 00:20

Precious, if you are in danger, it is absolutely NOT too late. Call her! Or text her if it's quieter and you're worried about him hearing. Can you text DS and ask him to come in with you?

PurpleHat · 19/09/2011 00:21

Contact your SIL and anyone else who could help tonight.
If at all possible could you send text messages to people so that he doesn't hear you making calls?

seriouschanger · 19/09/2011 00:22

Either
1 phone police now
2 get kids ready for school in morning and go straight to Women's aid with them not school or work....then get police to escourt you back to house to collect as much stuff as possible (if this is allowed)

I hope he is asleep!

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 19/09/2011 00:22

Of course he's said this in a calculated attempt to frighten you into submission but, nevertheless, he's made threats to kill and these should always be taken seriously.

If you need to talk in RL do you have a DV support number you can call tonight? The Women's Aid 24 hour helpline is 0808 2000 247 or visit the NCDV website www.ncdv.org.uk

I suspect that if/when questioned, he's going to claim that he was joking. Print off your post and give it to his GP/police etc as it shows a man who may be psychotic - in which case he needs urgent treatment and may need to be sectioned if he does not agree.

ZhenXiang · 19/09/2011 00:23

Phone SIL, it is not to late when your life and those of your children is potentially in danger.

deliasniff · 19/09/2011 00:23

Get out now!

I understand how it is to be so intimidated by someone that you are scared to do anything to rock the boat in case it sends them over the edge, I have been in a relationship like that. But your xh sounds like he is not just trying to scare you, he has obviously been giving it a lot of thought and now he has said it openly I think you are in serious danger. If he has genuine thoughts of killing himself he has nothing to lose by taking you with him. I agree with previous poster, do not sleep tonight and leave if at all possible.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 19/09/2011 00:24

Given the potential seriousness of the situation, it is NOT too late to call your SIL - as a doctor, she will be used to interrupted sleep.