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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - We're All Going On A Sober Holiday!

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Mouseface · 12/07/2011 15:47

Hello, I'm Mouse Smile

Welcome to the Brave Babe's Bus. This is a bus full of drinkers old and new, sober and not, and those who are somewhere in between.

We are all at different levels of sober so you can bet that one of us has walked in your shoes.

If you want advice and support then you're in the right place.

Come take a seat or just lurk, we're happy to have you along for the ride. Smile

And here is a link to the last thread so you can catch up on the journey so far HERE

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Fairenuff · 01/08/2011 11:59

See. I knew I'd find you all in the hot tub ! Wink

venusandmars · 01/08/2011 12:22

thurso I understand how you feel. After struggling with in-laws who had big expectations about us spending every 'important ocassion' at their house, I have always been very clear with my dcs that they must do what is right for them, especially once they had partners / other families to consider. I think I was imagining that long, long into the future when they maybe had dcs of their own, they didn't need to feel guilty on my behalf because I wouldn't be demanding of their time....

Then 2 years ago dd1 decided that she and her bf would spend the 5 days over Christmas at his parents house, because they live a long way away and her bf doesn't get home to see them so often. I just had to grit my teeth, bear the empty table on Christmas day and be glad that I had a dd who is so considerate and supportive to her bf's needs [weeping mother emoticon]

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 01/08/2011 12:41

Venus Thank you.

Do you know, I struggled with myself, as to whether to get that post deleted or not, straight after I'd written it. I was hoping I didn't upset anyone, but rather blabbed it out.

Yes, I am so proud of Dc for being such a lovely person, and obviously a tower of strength to Gf's family, I am completely in awe of the man he has become. I too, have said that he needs to do what he needs to do, and not to worry about anything here. In my conversation I respected what he was doing, and said that I loved him, and would just be here anytime for them.

In my head, I wanted to scoop up my little boy, and protect him from any pain Blush.

Mouseface · 01/08/2011 12:49

Hello Babes

Welcome to Deeli, lovely to meet you Smile x

JWN - I was so surprised to read your post about struggling the other night. I thought to myself that you'd be the last person to wobble so hard. But then again, no-one is safe from falling are they? That's how very fragile we all are. At any moment we could slip. I'm so relieved to see that you didn't. Well done. xx

thurso - my dear friend. I do wish your DH would really put some effort into your marriage instead of going out and doing what he wants to do. You are right in saying he behaves like a third child! Sending you massive hugs lovely xx

Saf - yep, get your train sorted and I'll gladly cut your hair again lovely Smile. Has all your building work finished now?

obrigada - sending you lovely holiday vibes. Smile

Ma - oh how fantastic for DD. I hope she likes the family and you do too, that's just as important, that YOU like where she's going to be.

Faire - I too counted my days but after a while, I found it counterproductive because I'd start worrying about making it to day 15, 16 etc. So after about 2 months in, I stopped counting. This is such a personal journey for us all. You have to do what's best for you even if that changes on a daily basis.

Sorry I'm not addressing you all, I'm slowly catching up. Smile

I wanted to share all of this because I feel it's good to get it all down in black and white. It's a bit long, sorry. Blush

My weekend was fabulous. And, in a lot of ways, a huge eye opener. I had been feeling a bit 'stuck' in my marriage of late. I was wondering if 'that was it' in terms of this is our lot for the rest of our lives and to be honest, it wasn't what I wanted. At all. It wasn't my 'plan' but then again, lots of things are like that aren't they?

We were lying in the huge hotel bed watching Nemo play with his toys on Saturday morning when DH turned to me and said 'we really need to start doing more things for us'

I almost burst into tears. My heart just sprang back to life almost, do you know what I mean by that? It's like it had been dormant for a few years. I was suddenly whisked back in time to when we first met and I felt all of those feelings I did right from the very start.

You see I was beginning to feel that it was just me missing our relationship. I was starting to think that this was 'the beginning of the end' because we hadn't actually had any time out together for so long that we didn't miss it any more, or each other. We didn't go to bed and hold one another, never mind much else - sorry, TMI Grin

Date nights had become just like any other night. We bickered, moaned at each other, sniped, sighed, blamed one another for things, took our frustrations out on each other...... Sad

We'd become separate and apart but until DH said those few words, I hadn't felt that he knew. I thought he was just happy to plod along beside me instead of being with me.

We talked for hours, we walked along the beach holding hands, we went back to the place where he proposed to me, we had lunch and took our time. Just listening to one another. I actually opened up to him for the first time ever. I was totally honest with him without being scared of his reaction to how I felt or upsetting him.

And this all happened when we were sober. We drank champagne and ate delicious food. Nemo was so good, so happy, almost as if he knew that the cloud had gone from over our heads. He did have a huge vomit all over DH on Friday night and the hotel staff were amazing, so very helpful. It's always hard when he's sick away form home. Embarrassing, messy, etc and normally, that would add to the pressures of our day but it didn't. It's as if the sea air had blown all of the cobwebs away. We just got on with our evening.

I feel so new and refreshed. I feel like Mouse instead of MrsMouse, MotherMouse and CarerMouse. I just feel like me again.

Funnily enough, I didn't even drink that much even though I'd given myself permission to. Strange that really isn't it? 'You can't have that' so you want it more. 'Help yourself' and you don't over indulge.

Anyway, thank you for all of your support Babes and for reading if you got this far. Smile

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thursomuchtolookforwardto · 01/08/2011 13:14

Mouse I read all of it Grin

How happy you sound, and I'm so happy to hear you sound so happy Grin.

Thank you for the hugs. I did feel a bit end of tetherish on Friday night.

You must have missed my Saturday post.

Dh and I also had a long talk (again, I know), but, yes, it is so brilliant to know that the other people in our lives don't want to just plod along. I thought just the same as you, that it was only me missing the pizzaz factor in our marriage, but Dh told me his feelings as well, and we had such a lovely weekend (well, apart from all the tears, obviously Grin).

Ooh, your excitement has rubbed off, I'm going to look at holidays now Grin.
xxxxx

Mouseface · 01/08/2011 13:30

Wow! What a weekend for revelations thurso Grin I did miss your post sorry and sorry I missed what's going on with GF? And DS? What's happened?

We go on holiday this Friday to a quiet little bay in Wales and I can't wait. I want to breathe again, just like you said Saf, I want to fill my lungs right up and feel the air rushing into them.

Thank Jeff I married a man who feels he can open up to me and tell me his fears, his joys, what he wants, what he needs for himself, for me and for the DC. He has such a full heart, he wants to share so much of himself with us.

I feel lucky in lots of ways. I have a wonderful life compared to a lot of people DH and I know and this weekend has just confirmed that this is the life I want. Smile

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legalalien · 01/08/2011 13:31

Can I hop on the bus as well? Like Deeli, my evening consumption of white wine has gradually crept up to a level I'm not happy with - and largely on my own as OH works late. Am planning not to drink on Mon-Thurs going forward so today is Day 1. Am anticipating being back later for moral support as DH is away with work all week....

Fairenuff · 01/08/2011 13:45

Welcome legalalien feel free to hop in the hot tub with us, it's right at the back of the bus, in the trailer Grin

Good plan but can I just say you will probably find it simpler to just think of today for now. What are you going to do differently today? Have you been reading some of the thread to get some ideas for alternative drinks etc.

legalalien · 01/08/2011 14:07

I need to catch up with the rest of the thread properly later on (ie when DS is out of my hair) but yes, I have the elderflower cordial and sparkling water at hand :).

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jesuswhatnext · 01/08/2011 15:49

baking!! on the hottest day for ages!!! Grin and i thought i was the dafty here! Grin

glad you had a nice time mouse!

welcome legalalien!

MissBehaved · 01/08/2011 16:23

Hello
I've been waiting at the wrong stop - is it ok if I come on board?

thursomuchtolookforwardto · 01/08/2011 16:47

Hello legalalien and MissBehaved and welcome!

Mouseface · 01/08/2011 17:28

Great name MissBehaved!! Grin

Welcome to you and legalalien Smile

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MissBehaved · 01/08/2011 17:54

Hello (all) and thurso and Mouseface - thank you. Having had chance to read through from the beginning of this thread, I know I've found the right place. A little nervous, as this is the first time I've admitted to anyone, but myself, that I have a unwanted 'friend' or at least a 'friend' that comes round uninvited, yet always welcome.

Time to change the locks - or at least password protected!

venusandmars · 01/08/2011 18:25

Well done missbehaved. Getting it out there is a scary feeling. Looking forward to getting to know you (and your 'friend') a bit better. The more we understand your friend, the more we can help you with tactics to unfriend it.

legalalien · 01/08/2011 18:37

thanks for the welcome guys! I am now two elderflowers down - I know that's sad as it's only 18.30 but I do find the 17.30 to 18.30 window the hardest, easy to pour a glass of wine and sit at the sunny kitchen table and chat to DS - won't be tempted again until DS is asleep (say 20.15).....

jesuswhatnext · 01/08/2011 18:47

hmm - been thinking about what mouse said about me earlier, please dont ever think im 'the last person' who would struggle (i know mouse meant it in a positive way, ive no axe to grind! Grin) it just worries me that some would think that im kind of 'magic' or something - i can put my hand on heart and say that i havent had so much as a sip since the first thread and im not planning on doing so today Grin but truely, some days can feel like a living hell, the urge, compulsion, call it what you like, can be an absolute fucker, some days i want to scream and scream that i want a fucking drink and i want one right fucking now! Sad last friday was just such a day, i was awful, to dh, to my lovley girl at work, to the waiter in the restuarant that evening, i didnt drink but bloody hell, i was a pita with a face to match!

then, yesterday, after the urge had died and i was sitting enjoying the sun, my wonderful dd came round with her bf, with a fantastic selection of soft drinks from M&S, (chilled cranberry lemonade is lovley) and i realised just how terribly important it is for her and dh to know that im sober, safe and not about to kick off or do something idiotic - no doubt i will always have the odd 'bad day' but as time goes on i find the good days far far outweigh the bad! Smile

so - all you lovley new brave babes, try and remember that a bad day will pass (i have to too! Grin) and the good days are right here and now!

btw - panorama looks interesting tonight, about young drinkers, 8.30

venusandmars · 01/08/2011 18:49

legalalien well done on 3 counts: i) for recognising the time of your temptation ii) for getting the elderflower ready (and drinking it) iii) for planning to come back later tonight.

Fairenuff · 01/08/2011 18:50

Come back here if you're tempted and hopefully it will pass. Getting the first day done will give you a fantastic sense of achievement. You will feel great when you wake up knowing you didn't drink the night before because you chose not to.

Hello MissBehaved Smile

Saf I think the plunge pool is just behind the hot tub, on the way to the showers. It's a big bus, this. Grin

jesuswhatnext · 01/08/2011 18:51

bugger the plunge pool - i want an 'infinity' one! they look really glam! Grin

venusandmars · 01/08/2011 18:53

OH NO JWN you've totally disillusioned me. I've been getting up every morning and rubbing your name on my laptop - all because I thought you were the TRUE magic! Grin Grin

Well maybe not magic, but certainly inspirational. Because of, not despite your honest struggles.

notevenamousie · 01/08/2011 18:56

It doesn't matter how many elderflowers you've had if it's keeping you from the drink! I still always need to have a drink in my hand, diet coke is my main poison but I have got into herbal teas lately

I've had a lovely time away, home now and it's pouring, so I will splash off to my meeting shortly. Good to hear Mouse feeling better and thurso too. Will try and catch up properly tomorrow.

Mouseface · 01/08/2011 20:50

JWN - that's what I left out I guess. Smile It was in no way meant in a negative way, more of a "wow, even Jesus get's the urge to get wankered!" Grin

Glad you knew I meant it in a good way sweets xx

Off to watch some tv with DH and hope Nemo snuggles down with the sleep fairy some time soon!

Night Brave Babes xx

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