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Don't want to sleep with DH

185 replies

cathkidstonbag · 03/06/2011 11:29

really need some advice on this. Last time DH and I dtd it was really awful and I felt so totally rejected afterwards. That was 3 weeks ago and I know that it's starting to be expected of me. Had the comments this morning about us needing an early night.
I just don't want to. I don't think I love him anymore, don't fancy him anymore. I can't just do it because it's expected of me, I've done that the last few months and it makes me want to cry :(
I started seeing a counsellor this week who gave me some good advice but we didn't get onto this issue.

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cathkidstonbag · 11/06/2011 10:08

I had held back from telling him exactly what I thought of it all because he kept telling me how stressed he was, how difficult his life is. Until my friend pointed out to me last night that because of all this I cannot eat and size 6 clothes are hanging off me, have several medical problems caused by the stress and knowing that he still continued to do this. Obviously it isn't just his fault but he unfortunately was the straw that nearly broke the camels back. So I didn't hold back this time and no doubt he is thinking what a complete bitch I am to be causing him more stress.
Small doubts now ... it was ok to tell him the facts like that? He wasn't really so stressed was he???

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Anniegetyourgun · 11/06/2011 10:13

He's not stressed, that's bullshit. It was just an excuse to be an arse. You probably will get a whiny email saying you are a complete bitch to have etc etc, but that won't make it true. He's using your own caring nature as a stick to beat you with, and one can't get much lower than that.

BibiBlocksberg · 11/06/2011 10:32

Agree with what Annie said. Stressed is he? Aw, poor little lamb Angry

What a prize tosser he really is and that's putting it mildly. Just glad he's on the other side of world, dread to think what other harm he might have inflicted on you had he been physically around.

No OP you've def done the right thing here and congratulations again for finding the strength to end it. Take that incredibly caring personality of yours and turn the beam fully onto yourself for a change.

Starting with re-discovering the joys of eating by the sounds of it!

Or I will send that weird dr Christian from that eating programme to your house Grin

cathkidstonbag · 11/06/2011 10:44

Thanks. I am a caring person, kept saying to him whatever it was I was there for him. But I really think it was an excuse. If he was a normal person and wanted to end things he could have done so nicely in a caring way. I deserved that. 2 months ago I told him I had asked my DH to leave because things were so bad. He never made reference to that or expressed any sympathy. That's not what a nice person would do. He was never my friend. Quite why he pretended to be so for so long I will never know, I guess when I started having feelings I started being vulnerable and then he could start with the games.
Yes TG he lives so far away. No doubt he could make trouble for me and I think I will worry about that for a while. But I don't think so, I truly think he will give up because I was never that important to him. Bugger I'm crying again now!

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TheOriginalFAB · 11/06/2011 12:53

You are a really strong person.

dreamingbohemian · 11/06/2011 13:47

omg I just read your whole thread and just want to say I'm really proud of you and how strong you are being Smile well done!!

It's true, wobbles in the middle of the night are inevitable. I tried to sort of plan ahead for them, is there anything that helps you feel stronger, like a book or song, photos of your kids, a letter from a friend? I kept a little box of things that I would go through when I felt myself weakening, it really helped a lot.

(I hid some chocolate in there as well Grin)

Stay strong!! You can do this!

cathkidstonbag · 11/06/2011 13:56

Not sure I'm that strong but thanks for the support. The middle of the night box sounds good, usually my thoughts in the night turn to licking ice cream off his abs. Damn him for being so damn hot!!!
And chocolate - I just ate some for the first time in 6 months, had forgotten how good it is :)

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UnhappyLizzie · 12/06/2011 18:33

Hi there
Only just read this thread but wanted to say I know how you feel re sex with your DH. My husband and I have had problems in this dept for years. I can't bear him to touch me and I hate getting into bed with him. He has a high sex drive but at the same time lacks confidence - an awful combination.
Things tailed off after we had dd no.2 (now 9). We moved house to somewhere we knew no-one. I was at home with little ones and no friends. He was having a hard time at work and gave me no support. I spent the whole time running around trying to make him happy (frantically tidying house before he got home, cooking lovely food etc), but he was grumpy and critical. Also I had some physical issues after dd2 which led to an op (posterior repair) a few years ago.
The physical issues weren't the main problem though, it was his lack of communication, passive-aggressive behaviour etc). To give you an example, he would become silent and uncommunicative, I would beg him again and again to tell me what I had done wrong, and maybe four days later, he would tell me. Often something trivial.
For a long time I didn't feel like having sex with him, he didn't make me feel loved and wanted. I had to initiate it, always, which was bad for morale.
He completely stopped making an effort sexually, never kissed me, couldn't do it face to face, only in spoons position. I hated it, really perfunctory, very mechanical you have an orgasm (with vibrator) then I will pump away for a couple of minutes and have one too.
Contraception is condoms, which he hates.
We have also had terrible problems because I became emotionally involved with another man. Not a classic EA because nothing was ever said. It's a long and complicated story. I am still in love with this man.
I have tried and tried to make a go of my marriage but I can't get over the sex thing. I often drink too much/stay up late and only crawl upstairs when I know he is asleep. I can't leave him because I have no financial independence and am doing a university course that is very demanding (something I took up to try to raise my self esteem). Over the last two or three years attempts at sex have been disastrous. I always have to initiate it. One time about a year ago I tried to get it going but he said as he was about to jump into bed with me (during the daytime) that he wasn't sure if he'd be able to manage it because he'd 'already had three wanks' that day. He may as well have poured a bucket of cold water on me. He's very open about masturbating a lot, and I hate it. I don't have any hangups about it and accept that all men do it, but I don't want to hear about it.
He couldn't manage it that time. And when I tried the other night - lots of kissing etc, he put a condom on and then couldn't penetrate me face to face because he lost his erection. Cue him lying next to me, horrible rubbery noises as he tried to rub the erection back. I put my pjs on and curled up to go to sleep, reassured him it was OK etc. After a few minutes, he said actually, he was OK now, pulled down my pj bottoms and, in the dark, put it in from behind, grunted away for a couple of minutes and then came noisily. It was terrible and I was almost crying by the end. To say the mood had gone for me would be an understatement.
I didn't let him know I was upset but a few days later I was quiet and he asked what was wrong. I didn't want to say - talking about sex problems only seems to make it more impossible - but he persisted and I told him. It turned into a horrible row.
I am only 40 and I know I'm attractive and I really look after myself and try and look good. I feel desperately sexually frustrated. I can't imagine sex with dh ever being fun again. I'd love to have an open marriage but he won't hear of it. I live in a gossipy small town and dh isn't very sociable, so we have a limited circle of friends. Little opportunity to meet anyone. I hate my life. Our dds are wonderful but I feel I am shrivelling up, ageing in this awful situation. Last night I had an amazing dream where I was having sex with a guy on my course (someone I don't really think I fancied that much), then I woke up. I feel I am dying inside but have to continue in this half a life :-(

AnyFucker · 12/06/2011 19:05

bumping this mainly for lizzie (you should start your own thread, love, sounds like you need some support)

but also to say well done to OP for taking some control back in your life (and make sure you continue with counselling !)

UnhappyLizzie · 12/06/2011 19:11

Sorry, not trying to hijack, got a bit carried away Blush

AnyFucker · 12/06/2011 19:16

I didn't mean you were hijacking, I truly think you should have your own thread x

TheOriginalFAB · 12/06/2011 19:16

LIzzie - start a thread when you feel ready. People WILL help you.

UnhappyLizzie · 12/06/2011 19:24

Thanks. That was my first ever post on MN, feel so embarrassed I got the etiquette wrong. Feel like I'm the only person on Earth to be stuck in this situation, so it really struck a chord with me what the OP said. I really wish her the best

TheOriginalFAB · 12/06/2011 19:30

You haven't got anything wrong Smile.

cathkidstonbag · 12/06/2011 20:06

Bugger :( Was doing so well but OM has sent me an email to my other email addy :(
Lizzie - so similar indeed. It's just so draining feeling like there's more to life isn't it.

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UnhappyLizzie · 12/06/2011 20:25

Thanks for being so nice people. omgwhathaveidone, did you have an affair with OM, or was it all non-physical?
Also why are you worried your dh will find out if it comes to divorce?

UnhappyLizzie · 12/06/2011 20:28

Does your husband know you would like to leave?

buzzsore · 12/06/2011 20:32

Omg, don't answer that email! Set his email address as 'junk'. Grin C'mon, you don't want to go backwards.

Sorry about your situation, unhappylizzie.

AnyFucker · 12/06/2011 20:40

lizzie, my blunt approach gets me in trouble sometimes. I really, really never meant that you had got the etiquette wrong, I promise you. There is no right and wrong, tbh, I meant you need some support that is just for you

keep posting here, if it works for you, which it looks like it might do x

You have no reason to be embarassed, btw

this is an anonymous site, so as long as you delete your internet history, and don't post too many personal details, you should talk away

there is much support here x

cathkidstonbag · 13/06/2011 06:33

Lizzie - non physical online type. Yes DH knows how unhappy I am.
buzzsore - why couldn't he have done the whole "you're a bitch" kind of one? Why go for the sad type??? I'm in pieces again now :(

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dreamingbohemian · 13/06/2011 08:55

Lizzie Sad Please don't settle for this misery, it sounds awful. Can you access any counseling? Can you go to CAB and find out what your options are? You shouldn't have to stay with your husband for financial reasons, you might be surprised to find out how much help there is out there. And well done for posting!! Do keep writing.

Omg, of course he has gone for the sad email, he knows that will pull you back in. DO NOT FALL FOR HIS MIND GAMES. Set his email as junk and do not reply. Think of it as a painful itch, you know you want to scratch it but it will just make it worse, if you can ignore it for a while, it will fade away. Stay strong!!

buzzsore · 13/06/2011 09:35

You know what he does, Omg, he does sad and hurting to reel you in, then he'll do nasty and blaming. He knows you're trying to pull away so he's doing the woeful bit to make you feel guilty and give you hope that the nice man is the real man. But the manipulator is the real man. It's the abusive script that so many MNers talk about on here. You know this logically, don't you? It's just not that easy to resist, I know. But you can do it.

Set him to junk Gin.

buzzsore · 13/06/2011 09:36

I meant [ grin ], but gin'll do as well. Grin

cathkidstonbag · 13/06/2011 12:05

I'm so sorry :( I am absolutely useless at all this. Had the most horrible day yesterday and I caved in the early hours of this morning and replied. And I know that makes me the stupidest person ever but his email was like it used to be, when we were good friends and I needed to talk to him about what had happened.
He didn't of course reply.
So even though he thinks he's in control, that he's reeled me in again ... the opposite is true. Because the fact he hasn't replied proves I am right in not talking to him anymore itms? He couldn't even pretend to be nice for longer than a day!!!
Feel like I let you all down tho, need to stay stronger!

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buzzsore · 13/06/2011 12:48

Well, it's not what I hoped for, I won't lie Grin - but you see the pattern and that's good. You're starting to be able to predict what he'll do next, and when you see him ticking those boxes over and over, it'll be easier to detach from him.

He's playing true to form, but unbeknownst to him, you're getting a step ahead.

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