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Support thread for the recently ditched No.13

232 replies

Teaandcakeplease · 27/03/2011 20:51

Dearly Be-Chucked, we are gathered here today because, for whatever reason, our man has dumped us! Shock Sad Angry

This thread is for anyone who has recently been dumped ditched. A safe place to share your woes and to support, advise and give virtual ((hugs)) to fellow dumplings each other, as we walk this journey as one, to find the new us: fabulous, strong and full of serenity.

Stay a while and tell your story and when you are ready we are sure you will make the move to being a Dumpling no more!

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Patienceobtainsallthings · 08/04/2011 22:49

Amicable all I know is once u have enough deal breaking info its like a starting point for ur healing.The whole gobsmacked wtf are u doing u bastard jaw dropping fecking awful stuff ,sinks in ,in stages I think or the shock would kill us.big hugs look after urself ,they say grief is the healing feeling ,cry/rage and contemplate when u need to ,nourish urself everyday with things that bring u joy .

amicable · 09/04/2011 08:07

Thanks Tea, the second affair (or ONS?) is so shocking just because of the callous and destructive nature of it. I can understand him getting slowly involved (well quite quickly actually) with someone who flatters him and all that stuff, someone he'd built up a 'relationship' on line with. But then to just go out and shag some random, whilst saying that there was still hope for us etc. It is just so against his character. He is saying that he is appalled by his new behaviour etc and cannot understand why he did etc etc. But this is all just self deluding nonsense. It is just hard for me, because I CAN understand why he did it. He kept stringing on wifey at home because he 'has loved her all his life' and she lives with his lovely kids etc etc , but he decided to set off on his new 'separated' life regardless. He also decided to abandon the first OW because he has realised that he doesn't want to be with her because she is a stripper and ooo how sordid, so he has upgraded his shag to a woman who is at university. This abysmal treatment of these women is almost as shocking to me. He is abusing his position of power as an older man in a job that appeals to these younger women.

He claims that this is the first time he's slept with OW2, but on Xmas Eve when I discovered a dodgy email and began trawling my mind and his Facebook for likely affair candidates the OW2 was who I suspected him of having an affair with. He knew this, and admitted to 'inappropriate' chatting on line with her, but since withdrew that and said that 'inappropriate' was too strong, and actually it was just the mildest of flirting.

God, maybe he has spent the last 10 years screwing random women and I have only just found out. His job certainly would have allowed it.

Either way, he is doing it now. I just have to think of him as someone who has fully separated from me, who is conducting his sex life as if he is single, and I have to completely ignore any crap he gives me about still loving me, being sorry, wanting me and the family. Actions not words.

I read the first few pages of your original thread Tea and was quite stunned by the lies that your H told and his inability to behave in any decent manner at the beginning. I can't remember the date of it, but seem to remember it was quite recent. So did you get a divorce quite quickly? Think that is what I am going to have to do to protect myself financially. I like that thing you said about the heart taking a while to catch up with the head. That is very true, I will add it to my list of mantras!!!!!

Thanks patience, it is so important to look after yourself isn't it? I've got a few child free days coming up when they go to their dad so am planning lots of positive things. I am not going to hide under a duvet and think about killing myself which is what I did 2 weeks ago [shame].

Oh god, just seen baby has leaked poo out of her nappy and is trailing it over floor. Joy.

HauntedLittleLunatic · 10/04/2011 13:03

I can see what you mean about the second affair amicable.

For me I "knew" that I would find a valentine card when I looked....but I was so shocked by the magnitude o fthe valentine "party" he had organised and the contents of teh card....I think what i am trying to say is that it doesn't matter how much you think you know some things just come out of the blue

Dee34 · 10/04/2011 22:06

amicable - so, so sorry to read the latest about your situation with your H. God, what a shit (sorry, language). Please dont think about the past 10 years and what he might or might not have done. My ex is 'similar' in that he travels lots and has done for ages, but I would go crazy thinking about whether there were any other times aside from latest going-ons....I guess, even if you did know, what would that mean? Just that he is an even bigger liar, cheater and low-life than you think he is now.....

Hugs to you....

devastatedofdorset · 11/04/2011 15:11

Hello everyone - sorry not been very active but i also have had a bad few days - found a letter from my H pushed through the door when i got home on Friday accusing me of coaching our daughter to not want to see him and saying that regardless of what she wants he will be having her every other weekend from Friday to Sunday, 2 evenings after school and that she will be sleeping over, and holidays will be split equally. These arrangements would start straight after the Easter holiday and if not he would go to court. He wrote "i believe that DD is ready to stay over, and that you are coaching her what to say. Either way she does not get to decide, and nor do you."

DD saw the letter as she was with me when i opened it and was very upset and somewhat frightened - i phoned him straight away and said that he needed to some round and discuss with me and DD so he could see what she was saying. After a bit of persuasion he arrived and DD spoke to him and me and said that she wasnt happy to go and sleep at his house and only feels safe when she sleeps at home and has lost some of her confidence. I tried to keep things really measured and pleasant but he was clearly very angry and DD said that she was frightened of him - frightened of upsetting him rather than physically.

After a while DD went to get changed and i asked him to think about where he was living because spending so much time 500 yards down the road with the OW is distressing for me and DD. This is when he said that he cant afford to buy a house until he gets half the money from my house. This is the house that he has never contributed to financially and morally knows he has no share of. Just as well that i have a meeting with the divorce lawyer on Friday.

Yesterday DD was very upset because we went out to the garden centre to get seeds etc for the garden and when we were driving back to the house H is seen coming out of the OW's drive - DD was very upset and down for the next few hours. So things have been bad but any residual feelings i had for him have gone and at least i know what i am dealing with now. As Patience would say karma! and i know that i will come out of this still strong and my head held high whereas he will end up a sad and lonely old man with no money because the OW will have spent all his.

Chins up girls !

Patienceobtainsallthings · 11/04/2011 16:50

Dev I think u handled all that really well ,no drama and sorted v quickly.Is he happy now that dd doesnt want to sleep over.Its all so wearing Dev ,just so tiring and just when u think ur having a calm day ,something turns up . Hope today has been calmer.
Do u have to sell up ?
Hope u get good news from lawyer on Friday x

HauntedLittleLunatic · 11/04/2011 20:14

You did handle it well Dev. I only hope I handle it as well when my time comes, as I'm sure it will. There are a lot of similarities in our situations. XP living on the same street as me and OW. Our children are the same ages, but DTDs don't know why XP has left and are still desperate to go whenever they can.

Holdmyhand · 11/04/2011 20:24

Hi - can I join this thread?
I am in the process of seperating from H following his affair - been about 3 weeks but still struggling - good days bad days - h still living here which makes it hard to move on. I fluctuate between feeling okish and breaking down in tears over the silliest things.

my thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1176576-Feel-so-hopeless-what-should-I-do

Teaandcakeplease · 11/04/2011 22:31

All are very welcome here Holdmyhand. ((hugs)) to you.

Amicable I've read your post but life has been rather manic here in the last few days. Hope you're ok. The divorce took 8 months. We separated in October 2009 but I didn't post about it all until February/ March time when I was getting desperate from being in limbo. Your post sounded so wise despite the hardship you're going through.

Oh Dev Your poor DD and you. Hope the solicitors goes well on Friday.

I'll be away for a few days from tomorrow. So I'll probably not get on here much until I'm back. Sending you all ((hugs)) though.

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Mymymble · 12/04/2011 00:55

Glad you've joined us Hold.

Holdmyhand · 12/04/2011 09:16

Thanks. I still feel like I have so much to sort out but don't know what I really want - keep changing my mind.
I think I am trying to cope with what is happening in the present - accept that my past is now past and that the future I thought I had with h and family is not going to happen.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 12/04/2011 12:27

Post as much or as little as u like HMH and know ur in a safe place.Big hugs to u ,hope he leaves soon and u get ur own space x

HauntedLittleLunatic · 12/04/2011 12:57

I echo what Patience says.

And as someone that ended up living with XP for 6 weeks after the affair came to light, and now 2 weeks into living alone I can honestly say that there is now a huge relief. First couple of days were hell but we are now settling down into family life without him. I wish I had forced him out sooner. Some things were easier for letting him stay until he got sorted (like me gradually taking on the chores he used to do rather than being dropped straight in it)....but for my emotional sanity I wish he had gone sooner.

Nevertheless you have to do what is right for you and your children (but not XH).

Holdmyhand · 12/04/2011 19:10

I know emotionally it will be much easier when he goes - the day to day chores dont bother me too much as I realised that I actually tend to do more of them than him anyway. It is more having to trail all 3 kids with me each time I go out anywhere then there is mowing the lawn, putting out spiders and sorting out house insurance / mortgage etc

I am trying to put emotions to one side and think strategically at the moment - which is what h is doing. He does not want to move out or instruct solicitors for financial reasons (or until he and ow are ready!!!) I am trying to see how I can use situation to the advantage of me & kids so he is not having everything his way.

Haunted / Dev - How do you cope with XP / OW living on same street, must be so difficult for you.

Haunted - did it get easier through the 6 weeks? Any tips on how to handle the emotional stuff while he is in the house? I dread the weekends when he is around more. I cant see him moving out anytime too soon either - he seems really reluctant. He really has so little empathy for how hard it is for me (or kids) and thinks that I should just accept the situation so we can be 'friends' - yeah right, you lie to me and deceive me for 10 months, show zero respect for me and then think we will be friends!!!!!!

HauntedLittleLunatic · 12/04/2011 20:02

Them on the same street is awful TBH. I wish I hadn't agreed to XP taking this particular flat (he did ask my opinion), but I thought it would be good for the DCs as they can walk round there, he can do school run etc. The big issue is that they want to go round with his post every day. When he does school run it means he does it with OW and it quite frankly winds me up to the extent that i am looking into after school care for next term. I don't want to block him seeing his own children but I will block him from seeing his children and OW at teh same time (bare in mind OW is still married and still (appears to be ) screwing around behind her DH's back.

As fo rthe 6 weeks. The first 3 or 4 were OK. He works mostly evenings anyway and is in and out most of the day Saturday anyway. He also spent a couple of weekends at his mums. It wasn't great but it was OK, probably the worst part was the weekend he started packing I felt as though I had gone back to day 1. He had a moving date of 21 March, and a few days before got told it would be delayed a couple of days at which point things started getting fractious. We agreed he would go to his mums for a couple of days and if his flat wasn't going to be ready soon he would stay at a travel-lodge...a few days later he comes back...still no sign still no travel lodge...and by this point I am seething cos my targte leaving date has been and gone. I totally lost it he went to his parents at teh weeknd and I wouldn't let him back in teh house after that so he did end up at teh travel lodge. But by this point I was back to day one....again. So whilst on a practical level it was OK (he slept on the sofa) it was an emotional roller coaster and had I kicked him out on day one I would have only had to deal with those "day 1" emotions once IYSWIM.

As for my day today...it has been a bit of a mixed one. DCs were at XPs overnight as I had a late night uni comitment. I got a phone call from DTD2 at 8:30 and she drops into conversation that they didn't goo to bed until 9:00 cos he took them to his football training. Not a major issue for DTDs, but far too late for DD3 on a school night. We have a bit of a text argument about his loyalties and then when he comes around to drop their stuff off I shut the door in his face. He was supposed to be having DD3 tomorrow night so I could take DTDs out, but I am trying to arrange a babysitter.

He then rings and as part of conversation drops in that he will be baysitting OW DD tomorro, overlapping with giving DCs their tea, and DD3 staying over. He is a bit vague about the times "about 6:30-7:30ish I think" "I promise DD3 will be in bed by 7:30 cos OWDD will be gone...blah blah blah" Hmm. I have since found out OW needs to be somewhere else from 6-7:45 which means babysitting will be at 5:45-8:00 plus social chat at teh end at the very least...so DD3 won't be in bed until gone 8 again and they will overlap with him giving my DDs tea. I have now arranged for them to be home by 5:45 and he will have to entertain a sorry litle girl in a tiny flat with no toys for 2 hours on his own cos he is not using my DDs for that.

On the school run DD3 comes out and asks when they can next go for sleep-over. I explain I don't know and she responds "is that cos you didn't want daddy to take us to football?" so yet again I have been made out to be the nasty one in all of this.

Sorry for rant.

On the plus side...found out I have a 4 figure bonus going into bank in a couple of weeks and booked my holiday as well as doing a few paperwork bits and pieces. I am in teh middle of blitzing my kitchen so quite a productive day :)

america · 12/04/2011 20:21

Can I join you ladies?

After messy two years (another woman, debts, lies, you name it) DH left last May "to rebuild us a life abroad". He still calls me often but hasn't really contributed anything financially or emotionally since he left (and lives now in another country). He mainly calls/texts to ask for "virtual" sex, what a nerve. The fact that he keeps in touch over the phone is just really unsettling, we have 2DC and I'd had expected him to visit (not THAT far away or expensive) or to keep in touch with the kids, but he hasn't. And he hasn't told us to come over so I guess I have been ditched even if he doesn't want to say it. In the mean time I have had to rebuild my life as a single parent, find a new job (was made redundant too), a flat, daycare for DC and am really stressed out and exhausted for being a lone parent. Often I just hate him for leaving us like this. And the worst bit is that by hating him and finding all this so unfair I just manage to make myself more miserable.

america · 12/04/2011 20:23

Oh, and we were together for 15 years...

Holdmyhand · 12/04/2011 21:49

Haunted - I think that's the really hard bit, not only do they betray us but we have to keep in contact with them because of the Dcs. I know my H will be the same when he (finally!!!!) goes - keeping kids up late, giving them loads of sweets, letting them have endless computer games, lunch and tea at McDonalds, not bothering with car seats.....aaaaaarrrgggghhhhh!
Am already stressing about Christmas - couldn't stand not having kids with me Christmas day. Dont even know how i'll cope when he has them for a weekend : (
I think it makes it much harder when there is an ow involved as it seems to make the H's more selfish / hostile - I still find it hard to believe that the person i have lived with for 22 years, trusted, loved etc etc can be behaving like such a tw*t!!!
Must be so tough for you having OW involved with your kids - I am dreading my H introducing Dcs to OW......he has already told me how "good with kids" she is - along with all her other wonderful assets.

I so empathise with the day 1 thing - I seem to be ok for a day or 2, then something happens or a memory is triggered and even though I hate what he is doing and know I could never really love or trust him some part of me so misses the person he was and I just want him back and my family back as it was. I can look at him and wonder what i ever saw in him but then find myself crying while driving to the shops.

What I really hate is that I seem to waste all my time thinking about him and the whole situation - I wake up in the night thinking about it and spend all day thinking about it.

America - cant believe he phones for 'virtual sex'!!!!!!!!! What a creep. It sounds as if you are much better without him. I would be tempted to just not pick up the phone. You sound like you are doing really well getting a new job, flat etc. I am worried about being exhausted all the time too - but when I think about it I was exhausted when we were together as he never really did that much of the house chores or sorting out the kids stuff. At least without them there is less laundry / ironing and you can do things your pace.
Does he pay you any maintanence? Can CSA chase him abroad?

Patienceobtainsallthings · 12/04/2011 22:43

Just remember u r No 1
Everyone on this thread just remember that YOU ROCK !
U can do anything u want in ur new life ,don't let ur Xs dictate anything to u.They are selfish selfish men that have hurt and disrespected u .don't give them an inch in any negotiation.They will lie and lie .I don't write this as a bitter or hurt woman ,this is someone that would NEVER have believed the lengths my partner of 16yrs would go to.I am 18 mths in and I think my X is a completely useless arse.seriously set urself some boundaries and protect urself from all their headfuckery.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 12/04/2011 22:50

Hmh is he thinking of moving out,or have u just left it til when he chooses ,is he saving money atm ? Does this set up work for u or is it his idea?

Patienceobtainsallthings · 12/04/2011 23:00

Lots of questions Hmh ,sorry about that I totally understand if u want to keep things private,just don't let him manipulate u .My X kept gf secret for a long time and all the time it was the 2 of them justifying his awful behaviour,while I was disrespected at home left looking after the kids.just keep ur eyes wide open if an ow is on the scene.

Holdmyhand · 12/04/2011 23:25

Patience - no it is his idea. I initially agreed that we couldnt afford for him to move out but within a couple of days realised that it was too hard to live under same roof and asked him to go - he initially did the its his right to live there, then agreed to move out, then and still now is doing the we can live together as friends crap.
I do find it hard emotionally being under same roof knowing he is going out and f*cking OW then coming back here to play best daddy to the dcs. I also think he is just biding his time until he is ready to move in with OW when her divorce goes through. I also wonder if he is trying to keep his options open thinking if it doesnt work with OW he can pick up pieces with me. (not going to happen)
I am hoping that the more I can detach from him the easier being under the same roof. At the moment I am trying to keep my distance as much as possible - he sleeps downstairs, we dont sit in lounge together, I dont do any cooking / laundry for him - but I am being civil (through gritted teeth) when I speak to him.
I dont think he is saving money or doing anything - other than checking rightmove - to find somewhere to live as arrangement suits him - he can see kids when he wants, come and go as he pleases etc etc
At the moment all our money is in a joint account so I am trying to save a bit each week to put away and also making sure I get new clothes etc for kids while I can. He has said that when he moves out he will only pay minimum maintenence even though we have a high mortgage and I will sruggle to cover costs. I cannot make him leave so I guess I just need to make situation work for me & the kids as much as I can.

Holdmyhand · 12/04/2011 23:32

I know he is trying to manipulate me. I dont think he has told many people about OW so he is not getting opinions from other people but is listening to OW - they spend hours on the phone and constant texting. He is also totally justifying his behaiviour - thinks I should just accept his 'new relationship' (doesnt like me saying his affair) and he even justifies lying to me for last how ever many months......
I just need to keep my head straight and not let him get to me.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 12/04/2011 23:54

Ok but imo this will wear u down mentally because its 2 against one and he is getting all his own way .don't think if ur amicable now it will make any difference to maintenance etc ,Ow is calling the shots now.Have u had counselling,a few sessions will give u a huge boost re ur self esteem and help u offload about all his bad behaviour,he can't disrespect u like this in ur own home .big hugs hmh ,he is getting all his own way and relying on ur good nature.U don't have to have him living there.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 13/04/2011 01:02

Ps that quote came from a single dad on another thread ,its a good one eh ,u dont find peace by getting pissed and shagging barmaids I can pretty much guarantee that x