Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Dumpling no more - only the strong survive and we did No.2

1001 replies

Teaandcakeplease · 29/01/2011 07:48

At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinkin' I could never live without him by my side;
But then I spent so many nights
Thinkin' how you did me wrong
And I grew strong Smile

This thread is for ex dumplings Any dumpling that feels like she has "mostly" moved past crisis into an "almost" sorted state can post and chat here as we continue our quest for serenity with a lot of laughs along the way and support.

OP posts:
gettingeasier · 01/03/2011 07:05

Reading about when disclosure of what really happened comes out in a drip effect has made me grateful in a bizarre way that I knew about ow almost from the word go.

Although I had a few weeks when I wasnt sure if xh would embark from EA to being with her it wasnt long really but probably long enough for me to be mentally prepared. Within four and half months of him going he was with her and the dc had were introduced.

I still maintain that the hardest pill to swallow is when your dc are fully involved in a life with your xh and his ow and her family. My bitterest tears were shed in those summer months when I was properly realising what had happened to me and how after 17 years not only was he gone but he had a whole happy existence with ow and our dc. That I could walk past people in our town that the dc spent a lot of time with but that I wouldnt know from Adam.

In the odd moment I feel cross that xh will never know that pain and I wonder at the injustice of that , then I remember the saying life isnt fair.

XH is a sensitive person and what I do think is that at some point he may not experience that pain but he will understand he inflicted it on me. Maybe in some ways he already does hence the struggle to make eye contact and the haste to be away from here.

I am so glad now that I never once engaged in chest beating, woe is me, how could you do this to me, please come back to me etc behaviour even at my most heartbroken. More importantly I never spoke a word against his ow or made a murmur of complaint at any of his actions in that department apart from telling him around 4 months ago that I considered that he had had an affair with ow while with me even if they didnt have sex.

In short he would have anticipated emotional drama from me and got nothing.

DS was talking about a girl at school last night syaing she has been acting weirdly and offish. I said maybe she was having problems or was unhappy. He said no way " her parents are together and really happy , I saw them at her party holding hands " and clearly saw this as the apex of a happy home life. This gave rise to a quick chat and he said he knew his Dad had been very unhappy so I asked did he seem happier now to which DS said no not really, then he said well he is happy I think.

I feel sad that DS hasnt got those happy parents but I know over years and years I tried to make xh happy but I just didnt. As SGB says you cant make someone love you.

I feel happy that I no longer have the job of trying to make xhs life what he wants or trying to get him through his huge emotional crisis.

Anyway its now 7.04 and I have got that off my chest !!

See you all later

gettingeasier · 01/03/2011 07:18

Also reading back my post the abiding question to myself is why did I try for years and years to make him love me. Why was I unable to take action against his treatment of me, his drinking his general total lack of respect. Why didnt I ahve the courage to accept he wasnt what I wanted and had changed completely from the man I spent the first years with.

So many people out there are doing the same as I did, one good friend in particular is acutely unhappy at the hands of her controlling shit of a husband but I bet this time next year she will still be there.

What depresses me is the knowledge that I need to steer well clear of men until I know I wouldnt do it again. When that will be who knows Hmm

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 01/03/2011 08:57

Smile Getting. I sometimes why too. It never occurred to me tbh that I had the choice. And he 'was my husband', which to me meant that you took the rough with the smooth. And more than anything I felt totally emotionally dependent on him although goodness knows why. He just wasn't doing anything for me and yet I craved his acceptance.

I think sometimes you can just be so stuck in a situation you cant look at it objectively.

gettingeasier · 01/03/2011 09:31

Hi Happy Smile

Exactly that "he wasnt doing anything for me but I craved his acceptance "

I did look at it objectively though as his drinking behaviours were so extreme you couldnt ignore it but I still did nothing.

As you yourself have said Happy the net result all this time later is a happier emotionally far healthier life so I hang onto that at low points.

gettingeasier · 01/03/2011 09:34

I think for a while I am going to be cast back into a bit of turmoil because of the moving house. Partly because of the obvious hassles but also leaving our home of so many years that we put so much into at every level.

A few dumplings have said how they felt better after moving and have been happier - heres hoping Smile

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 10:18

I think it will be the final part of ur old life gone,getting.
Then u will walk thru ur gateway when u move house.
What gets me is I had the drip drip effect but since he said he has been sleeping with her the pain has gone.its like I was locked in torment for a year and a half.the release from that is immense. I can't remember what the pain feels like so I'm not stuck in the past.I don't love him like a husband anymore.I think he has acted like a complete tit.saw his pub land this morning and said "gf name ,what's that all about ?"and laffed,he shrugged his shoulders .
It's been emotional I've been very angry I've been very sad but whatever doesnt kill us makes us stronger.I am so glad I broke loose and have a new life ,I don't need to reflect anymore I can just get on with it and be at peace with myself x

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 10:20

Pub landlord this morning

Mumfun · 01/03/2011 10:23

Patience I cant believe he didnt see them but you are so right in your reaction. Respect!

Sorry cant write much about what happening at mo.

In some way like Patience cant be bothered about talking about it all any more.

AGree with all Happy and Getting say -good to think through it all and process it

Have to say I did do something about it when I knew things werent right. I asked H to go to Relate. We went - I didnt know all the way through that he was having affair all the time.

No good it did me at all.

I think being in love and being married and having children leave you fatally weak myself. You see all those things as right and put up with a lot in order to keep them in place. I wish I had been much more assertive sooner - but you can only do what you can do at the time

Mumfun · 01/03/2011 10:27

Yes Patience I feel much stronger! :) Interspersed with the bad days that must come and then must pass.

But Im a bit sad Ive lost the innocence. I think so much less of the male species as a whole now -and also of the whole human species actually. So many people just want a smooth easy life - and dont want to deal with difficulty.

A few individuals I think much more of.But beginning to appreciate them for the rare gems they are.

Mumfun · 01/03/2011 10:27

Integrity is an imporrtant word for me now

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 11:17

Mf I agree but I see it as emotional growth it can't be negative because we are so much stronger.
Like wtf was I doin putting up with dv and living with a guy that said I deserved it .
Ultimately I need to find myself an independent bloke with a brain.
Thing that gets me is I have lost my negative feelings towards X.he is nothing to do with me anymore.he is the kids dad.hopefully he wants to play football cricket and golf with dcs this summer but if he doesn't someone else will.actions speak louder than words to the kids.I can honestly say NOTHING would surprise me anymore.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 11:30

Such negative surprises would have floored me b4.now I just see it as previously being emotionally immature .I was a sitting duck for a conman.he is still sticking to the story we just fizzled out.he has been such a jerk that was the shock for me. But now I just realise why I would never be happy.he is completely lacking in integrity ,incredibly immature,completely lacking in responsibility and its always everyone elses fault.
Would never have thought I would be happier living like this but I am .I'm happier than ive been in years.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 01/03/2011 15:25

Hello all

MumFun, sorry you are having a rubbish time. We too went to Relate but he didn't mention the affair. Must have slipped his mind Hmm. The Saint strongly feels that if you don't say anything you're not lying - ah well, if it helps him to sleep easily..... Hmm

I have contacted the solicitor! You will be relieved to know that I have removed my head from the sand and will be talking to her tomorrow to update her on my tv mini series. Probably not the best timing given that DS is also coming for a "meeting" tomorrow. I'll be praying for him (that'll be my new found faith), feel free to join.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 16:29

Well done happy,I take it its ur divorce lawyer {we know u have several and are the threads legal eagle }
Sending u my support for tomorrow.
Just had a laugh ,imagine I had got a tattoo with X s name on ROFL TF I didn't.thinking of striking up a conversation with slow burner man on thurs to find out if he is single.

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 01/03/2011 17:35

Go for it Patience.

Yep that'll be the divorce one although I may be seeing the other one over the next few days too...

gettingeasier · 01/03/2011 18:50

Well it wont hurt to find out will it Patience ...Grin

Happy bite the bullet , its nasty but once its all done you will know where you stand and can act accordingly.

Really pleased have organised the surveyor , got removal peoples numbers because its all happening on the 26th April SmileSmile. Starting to feel the finish line where I will be awarding myself a large trophy engraved .... am thinking about it Grin

IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowIt · 01/03/2011 19:37

Respect Getting

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 20:07

Final furlong getting x

googoomama · 01/03/2011 20:58

Hi everyone!
Well done Getting :)
Love that poem quote Patience - where's it from?
Having busy bloody time again but working from home tomorrow so can book train Patience - I will have a look tonight and text you love

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 21:30

Mask of anarchy pb Shelley, googs ,was on a jam album cover .

Patienceobtainsallthings · 01/03/2011 22:13

Hope ur cool starting,
Watching gavin and stacey x

startingovernow · 01/03/2011 23:14

Waves to all, v busy with college so only getting a chance to post now.

Mumfun, sending you big ((Hugs)) & thinking of you.

Getting, I'm sure that move will be v emotional but at the same time I'm sure new home will be the start of good things for you Smile

Happy, best of luck with the legal stuff. Agree with others that when the legal stuff is sorted it brings a whole new freedom.

ET, hope you're doing ok

Goo, hope you get a chance to rest also tomorrow

Tea, hope you've managed to catch up on some sleep

Rom, I'm sure you will indeed find romance again in time ((Hugs))

Patience, it's so great to read your posts. I feel so happy for you that you now finally feel free from xh Smile

Well xh rang me & apologised for everything. From what he said things with sd were different to what I'd pieced together from what dd had told me. He admitted that he was totally out of order & said that he'd rang sd to apologise. He says it was to do with her drinking being out of control atm, afaik this is true. It's possible that he saw something on her fb & not the other way around but either way I told him I didn't want to get into what had happened with sd with him. I emphasised how much damage his bahaviour has done to dc's & that I wouldn't accept any further behaviour like this. He promised to that he is going to do everything possible to sort things out with dc's. He says he is only now remembering the dv, that he can't believe how badly he behaved. He said he's told his solicitor & some close friends that exactly how he behaved with me & that he's pleading guilty to dv cases in June. He did sound v sincere & I could here the pain in his voice so hopefully this is a step in the right direction.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 02/03/2011 00:03

Big hugs starting,all so emotional but good he seems coherent.glad college is good x hugs sBig hugs starring

Patienceobtainsallthings · 02/03/2011 00:03

Big hugs starting,all so emotional but good he seems coherent.glad college is good x hugs sBig hugs starring

Patienceobtainsallthings · 02/03/2011 00:12

Bloody phone ,broadband next week
Funny how a few weeks ago I posted that I Hate My Life.truth is I hated my fuckwit X fucking my head up with his lies when all I needed was the truth.he is at least a yr and a half ahead of me in the whole moving on stakes.so odd to think of myself as properly single .to everyone else I was .just not to me.its like leaving a fecking cult.the whatever u think ,I tell u is wrong cult.
Anyway more peace ahead of me now,jumped out the cuckoos nest.I guess the boredom I feel is normal.even the is he isn't he brought adrenaline.
Hugs to everyone.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.