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dh and his best friends girlfriend - what shall I do?

445 replies

SJ32 · 20/01/2011 11:53

Hi, I think this is going to be a long one but I would really appreciate some advice, if anyone makes it that far!

dh and I have been together for 11 years, married for 6. We have 2 dcs, one pre-school and one school age. He has a best friend who he went to school with who we often hang out with, along with other mutual friends. This guy is also a v close friend of mine.

He got this new girlfriend a couple of years ago. She is a nice girl I think but kind of closed off and hard to get to know. She also acted in a weird, controlling and borderline abusive way to her partner, so for a long time my dh hated her, no-one else was massively keen either but we all tried to make an effort. ((For easiness' sake I'm gonna call dh's best friend C and his gf R)

Anyway, fast forward a bit and dh and her started to become friendlier. So friendly in fact that it seems people have begun to talk. The first I knew of it all was when dh told me (after I overheard a conversation between him and his best friend)that another friend, V had seen them kissing at a party in October, I must add that I was also at this party and saw nothing untoward. It turns out that it wasn't kissing, just possibly inappropriately intimate body-language.

So C has started to get the hump at the way dh and R have been behaving. They do stand and drink together and often will go on somewhere else alone after others have gone home. I'm not usually there as am looking after the dcs at home, dh goes out most friday nights til about 2-3am, nearly always with her. I know C feels uncomfortable and excluded but he hasn't talked to me about it.

dh says that C is being paranoid and unreasonable, and that there is nothing going on but that he likes R as a friend does not want to stop hanging out with her. I know they email eachother regularly while they're at work, and he texted her at like, 7.30 on Christmas morning, while the kids were in our room opening their presents (nice Hmm). I actually read the message later that day and it was all rather innocuous but still, 7.30 on Christmas morning!?!

Last week dh told me he was meeting R for a drink after work to talk about the situation with C. I wasn't keen tbh but he was obviously going to go anyway. He was gone about 3 hours, I don't know if C knows they met up.

Anyway, I have been feeling uneasy about this for a while and we have had a few arguments about it. One one occasion I asked how he would feel if I was out drinking all the time with another bloke and he said 'I'd ask myself why you wanted to spend so much time with someone else rather than with me' like implying it was my fault for being a crappy wife or something.

I asked him if he fancied her and he said no but he understands her and likes her a lot. Last night though I am sorry to say I looked at his phone while he was asleep. (I know, I know Blush). I found an email conversation between them from yesterday where he says 'R - you're in my head a bit, I'm sorry it's not your fault. I know I'm being a twat. Maybe it's best if I stop coming out. If you don't know what I'm talking about then that's for the best'

She then replies something about them meeting up to 'talk' and they vaguely arrange to meet up this weekend. He also says something like 'I care about you and want to keep talking to you and listening to you' whatever that means.

So, it would appear that C was right, their friendship is crossing a line. What do i do about it though, I know it was wrong to look at his phone and he'll probably be really angry. I guess this is why you shouldn't look, even if you find something you can't legitimately say anything!

Also, I can't help feeling slightly responsible as over the last year dh told me a couple of times he wasn't happy with the way our relationship had become kind of functional, with no passion or excitement. He says I don't consider him, and it's true that I probably don't prioritise our relationship like I should, the dcs have always come first I guess.

I know this whole thing sounds really teenage but I promise it's genuine, and I am actually quite a mature 32 year old! dh and i are the first of our peer group to get married and have dcs, everyone else still goes out getting pissed and carrying on like we all did 10 years ago.

I think I'll wait and see what happens this weekend, I don't feel comfortable with them meeting up to discuss how she's 'in his head a bit'. Tbh that sounds like playing with fire! If he does meet her he might lie about it anyway and say he's meeting someone else. Or should I confess to looking and ask him about it? I mean, he hasn't actually done anything with her yet, is it acceptable to have crushes and feelings as long as you don't act on them?

Some perspective would be really helpful, right now I am so confused and I just feel sick and shaky. Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
Patheticisntit · 25/01/2011 12:37

Jesus Christ you lot, (though not everyone), can you not just be happy for the OP. Ok she may be right, she may be wrong - but the same goes for yourselves - you could be wrong too - did it ever occur to you that you could make mistakes - im sure it doesnt - you are all so righteous at times.

Let the OP live with her decision and just be there when/if she ever comes back looking for help and that is all she is looking for - help - not someone to take over her life TELLING HER WHAT TO DO and not someone to run her life for her!

Good Luck OP. I hope things work out for you and if they dont then dont hesitate in coming back - as many of the other posters have said they have been in your situ and if they didnt listen first time then they should be more understanding.

We learn by our mistakes - but we must be allowed to make them in order to learn from them.

cornflowers · 25/01/2011 13:23

One might be forgiven for wondering whether Patheticetc... could be the op's dh Wink

spidookly · 25/01/2011 13:33

:)

Patheticisntit · 25/01/2011 13:36

Definitely NOT. And Im female !

Some of you are really the most disgustingly suspicious people I have ever had the misfortune to find on here - but others can give very good advice (then stand back).

If you are that suspicious about people no wonder a lot of you lead such a pathetic insular life, probably most of the time on MN.

How pathetic are YOU ?

AnotherMumOnHere · 25/01/2011 13:44

What would make anyone think that Pathetic a) is a male and b) is the OPs DH

I dont see ANYthing that could connect the two.

Dont start turning on other posters just because they have a voice that doesnt agree with what you think.

It is true, some ladies on here can give very good advice. Others, well lets say, dont help matters but we are all due to give our opinion without having to turn on one another.

cornflowers · 25/01/2011 13:51

Actually, I spend very little time here, but I've been around on forums for years and certain patterns stick out a mile Smile
In this instance, my reasoning would be that 'Ms'Patheticisntit turned up after the op said that she would be showing the thread to her dh (and she later confirmed that she had indeed done so). Hard to imagine the ops 'd'h wading through a virtual character-assasination without wading in himself... Furthermore, everything that Patheticisnitit has said has run counter to any common sense reading of the op's situation. Paranoia it aint, just a reasoned guess Wink.

Patheticisntit · 25/01/2011 14:02

Your paranoia really is gutter level.

If you check other threads then you will see that I existed long before OP and her DH so go crawl back into your gutter and play at throwing mud in other directions.

The fact that this has happened actually proves that MNers CAN be wrong though I'm sure no one is ever going to admit that.

cornflowers · 25/01/2011 14:15

Why so angry? Anyone would think this affected you personally. Please try to calm down, as a reasonable, measured discussion is far more productive. Smile

Patheticisntit · 25/01/2011 14:25

Im not in the slightest bit angry, Im in a very good mood as it happens, I simply put some bits in bold to get through to your thick skull that not everyone is a low life like yourself. Easy As. Goodbye and have a good life thats if you can find one.

nbyet · 25/01/2011 14:31

OP I am glad you sound happier and thanks for the update (even though this is the first time I have posted on your thread). One thing I don't understand though, is what R is saying 'I don't know' to? I just think that now it has come to light that their friendship has made you and C uncomfortable, they should just back off from each other, no need for a discussion between the two of them about it.

Anyway best of luck with it all and I hope it works out for the best!

madonnawhore · 25/01/2011 14:42

Yeah, throughout this whole thread I've been completely in the dark as to what exactly OP's H and this R need to talk about. What can there possibly be for her to say 'I don't know' to?

Whatevs. I doubt the OP knows, or that she'd be back to tell us even if she did.

perfumedlife · 25/01/2011 15:52

Crawl back into your gutter. Low life, thick skullc [bshocked]

Truly nasty.

perfumedlife · 25/01/2011 15:52

[bshock] even [bgrin]

AnotherMumOnHere · 25/01/2011 16:00

I may agree with some of the things that a certain person above has said but I really cant understand why some of you are being drawn into the conflict, it is exactly what she is trying to do, so indirectly or perhaps even directly, she is winning or perhaps has won.

Best to give a wide berth IMO.

perfumedlife · 25/01/2011 16:28

What conflict? I am merely pointing out the one who complained of posters content and style is herself hardly a paragon of lovliness. [bsmile]

NoNamesNoPackDrill · 25/01/2011 16:34

I just find it all a bit shouty. Wisdom shines through when advice is given in a measured and calm manner, not shrieked in bold/with exclamation marks. Jokes help though.

AnotherMumOnHere · 25/01/2011 16:34

Could you perhaps point out to me where the poster claims to be a paragon of loveliness. I dont see anything.

It seems you only want to find fault with everyone so I'll leave you to it in your own little world. Seems the best thing to do.

perfumedlife · 25/01/2011 16:54

What are you talking about? It seems I only want to find fault with every one? Where? Really, where?

I didn't bring it up. I am responding to Pathetics attack on the general thread. She is claiming people are low lifes who crawl in gutters, that's why I said she herself is no paragon of lovliness, didn't claim she said it.

[bhmm]

toomanystuffedbears · 25/01/2011 18:35

Is this interlude of pot calling the kettle black another wait around for the OP to post again? Rhetorical question: Biscuit
(That was for Pathetic, btw, and I also had an erroneous intuitive feeling about identity, as cornflowers suggested.)

SJ-thanks for the update. Good luck and enjoy the lovely reconnection with your dh.

But just to keep in mind:
There is a difference between
Getting what you want (vows honored)
and
Wanting what you get (pretend happily ever after).

AnotherMumOnHere · 25/01/2011 22:33

Ive seen 'Pathetic' on other threads long before this one came up so I doubt very much that you are correct.

If it was OPs DH then he must have had the ability to see into the future and know that his wife/partner was going to post on here, so all in all I guess you are both wrong.

We shall just have to keep our eyes open to see if the poster turns up again.

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