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dh and his best friends girlfriend - what shall I do?

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SJ32 · 20/01/2011 11:53

Hi, I think this is going to be a long one but I would really appreciate some advice, if anyone makes it that far!

dh and I have been together for 11 years, married for 6. We have 2 dcs, one pre-school and one school age. He has a best friend who he went to school with who we often hang out with, along with other mutual friends. This guy is also a v close friend of mine.

He got this new girlfriend a couple of years ago. She is a nice girl I think but kind of closed off and hard to get to know. She also acted in a weird, controlling and borderline abusive way to her partner, so for a long time my dh hated her, no-one else was massively keen either but we all tried to make an effort. ((For easiness' sake I'm gonna call dh's best friend C and his gf R)

Anyway, fast forward a bit and dh and her started to become friendlier. So friendly in fact that it seems people have begun to talk. The first I knew of it all was when dh told me (after I overheard a conversation between him and his best friend)that another friend, V had seen them kissing at a party in October, I must add that I was also at this party and saw nothing untoward. It turns out that it wasn't kissing, just possibly inappropriately intimate body-language.

So C has started to get the hump at the way dh and R have been behaving. They do stand and drink together and often will go on somewhere else alone after others have gone home. I'm not usually there as am looking after the dcs at home, dh goes out most friday nights til about 2-3am, nearly always with her. I know C feels uncomfortable and excluded but he hasn't talked to me about it.

dh says that C is being paranoid and unreasonable, and that there is nothing going on but that he likes R as a friend does not want to stop hanging out with her. I know they email eachother regularly while they're at work, and he texted her at like, 7.30 on Christmas morning, while the kids were in our room opening their presents (nice Hmm). I actually read the message later that day and it was all rather innocuous but still, 7.30 on Christmas morning!?!

Last week dh told me he was meeting R for a drink after work to talk about the situation with C. I wasn't keen tbh but he was obviously going to go anyway. He was gone about 3 hours, I don't know if C knows they met up.

Anyway, I have been feeling uneasy about this for a while and we have had a few arguments about it. One one occasion I asked how he would feel if I was out drinking all the time with another bloke and he said 'I'd ask myself why you wanted to spend so much time with someone else rather than with me' like implying it was my fault for being a crappy wife or something.

I asked him if he fancied her and he said no but he understands her and likes her a lot. Last night though I am sorry to say I looked at his phone while he was asleep. (I know, I know Blush). I found an email conversation between them from yesterday where he says 'R - you're in my head a bit, I'm sorry it's not your fault. I know I'm being a twat. Maybe it's best if I stop coming out. If you don't know what I'm talking about then that's for the best'

She then replies something about them meeting up to 'talk' and they vaguely arrange to meet up this weekend. He also says something like 'I care about you and want to keep talking to you and listening to you' whatever that means.

So, it would appear that C was right, their friendship is crossing a line. What do i do about it though, I know it was wrong to look at his phone and he'll probably be really angry. I guess this is why you shouldn't look, even if you find something you can't legitimately say anything!

Also, I can't help feeling slightly responsible as over the last year dh told me a couple of times he wasn't happy with the way our relationship had become kind of functional, with no passion or excitement. He says I don't consider him, and it's true that I probably don't prioritise our relationship like I should, the dcs have always come first I guess.

I know this whole thing sounds really teenage but I promise it's genuine, and I am actually quite a mature 32 year old! dh and i are the first of our peer group to get married and have dcs, everyone else still goes out getting pissed and carrying on like we all did 10 years ago.

I think I'll wait and see what happens this weekend, I don't feel comfortable with them meeting up to discuss how she's 'in his head a bit'. Tbh that sounds like playing with fire! If he does meet her he might lie about it anyway and say he's meeting someone else. Or should I confess to looking and ask him about it? I mean, he hasn't actually done anything with her yet, is it acceptable to have crushes and feelings as long as you don't act on them?

Some perspective would be really helpful, right now I am so confused and I just feel sick and shaky. Thank you for reading.

OP posts:
DeidreBarlow · 22/01/2011 19:15

OP I've been following this thread.

You really need to wise up and see that even if he is or isn't shagging her (and fwiw I think he has or has been intimate in other ways with her) he is so blatantly putting her needs before you and your children! You must be able to see this?

He also sounds like he has a serious ego. Because if he isn't shagging her, then he loving the drama of having her dependant on him. He knows you don't like it yet last night he went out with her there and then they go on 'somewhere else'Confused

There is no respect there for you at all. If it was me in your shoes I'd have been down that pub last night telling H/C/R and anyone else who would listen exactly what has been happening and how it was stopping. Now.

Having said all that I hope that you are okay, you sound very together and you do deserve more than this.

pink4ever · 22/01/2011 20:10

Been watching this thread since it started and I am now starting to go [hmmm]?. Is anyone really as gullible as the op is making herself out to be?.How could you possibly believe the pile of shite explanation for the "you're in my head" text alone?.(I wouldnt have fallen for that as a teenager nevermind a grown women!).
Also op seems to completely ignoring all the incredulous comments about her dh going out on the piss every weekend and coming back with a weak "oh well Ive been out on a handful of occasions too" Again Hmm?
If op had any sense would take anyfucker up on her kind babysitting offerWink and go meet this ow and kick her ass. But no doubt she will either not come back on thread or come back with another load of hokum he has fed her.

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 00:28

I am still available for babysitting

I have a copy of my advanced CRB check

I have my mum's written affadavit that I am a trustworthy person (worth much more)

I can be there

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 00:29

OP won't be back

it would have happened by now Sad

forehead · 23/01/2011 07:24

I have read this thread, and i can't believe that some women can be so forgiving of such behaviour. The OP wants to believe her dh and i don't think that she is going to take any notice of any of the advice tbh. She is going to continue to be a doormat and her dh will do whatever he wants.
WOMEN DON'T PUT UP WITH THIS .

spidookly · 23/01/2011 08:29

someone might as well. Terrible to see an offer of babysitting going to waste.

DeidreBarlow · 23/01/2011 08:50

AF is in M/cr? I'm nearer don't even need a flight...I'll be there in an hour Wink

spidookly · 23/01/2011 09:06

See you in the pub Deidre.

You get the first round in, I'll be there as soon as I'm done the drop off at Little Fuckers nursery.

TheDevilAndTheDeepBlueSea · 23/01/2011 10:36

Am I the only one who desperately wants to open a nursery called Little Fuckers?

I would, as well. If I liked children Wink

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 12:20
Grin

I have plenty of housework needs doing. Drop the Little Fuckers round here.

Mouseface · 23/01/2011 13:17

Ahahahahahaaaaaaa TheDevil 'Little Fuckers Nursery, the perfect choice for you precious angels' Grin

No OP I see. Sad

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 13:22

no Sad

there have been a couple of very worryingly-bad relationship threads over the last couple of days where the OP just never came back

I am afraid I can only see one reason why that would be

although, of course, nobody is obliged to come back and update us all

it would be nice though, since people have taken the trouble to try and help

blackcoffee · 23/01/2011 13:46

you're right, op is under NO obligation

Mouseface · 23/01/2011 13:52

I know re the threads AF. Sad

cobbledtogether · 23/01/2011 13:57

Can think of lots of reasons why no OP. Apparently some folks don't live on MN. Not like me Grin

ilovesprouts · 23/01/2011 14:10

.

Patheticisntit · 23/01/2011 14:10

Do you really wonder why OPs disappear never to be seen again.

You may think you are 'giving help' but infact many of the MNers are the biggest load of bullies I've seen in a long time.

There is a big difference between 'trying to help', 'giving orders' - which many of the posts seem to be ! and 'suggesting' what you might do in the circumstances.

It is easy to pass judgement on other peoples posts and that is what is done. What really makes me laugh is the fact that some MNers actually name change cos they dont want others to REALLY know what is happening IN THEIR LIVES. So sad really !

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 14:36

if you don't like it, why use someone else's support thread to complain about it ?

get a grip

Mouseface · 23/01/2011 14:42

Hey Pathetic (name change or newbie?)

The OP asked 'what shall I do?'

As far as I can tell, posters advised her, some drawing on their own experiences.

She is quite within her rights to ignore posters or never post on this thread again.

Believe it or not, nobody on here finds threads like these entertaining or fair game to stick the boot in.

It's deeply upsetting to read threads like this where someone asks for help because they don't know how to handle a certain situation.

People are only trying to help.

Patheticisntit · 23/01/2011 14:42

Do MNers realise they are in many bigger abusers than the actual abusers they are complaining about?

I hope OP finds a less biased forum where she will get the real support she needs.

Patheticisntit · 23/01/2011 14:44

*in many ways bigger abusers

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 14:45

if you don't like it, you know where the red "X" button is, < shrugs >

Mouseface · 23/01/2011 14:48

Anyone for a Bear?

AnyFucker · 23/01/2011 14:49

< cuddles the bear >

blackcoffee · 23/01/2011 14:51

wallops bear with candlestick