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Cold feet about wedding, attracted to someone else

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MakingMyBed · 15/01/2011 15:57

Hello - I am an avid reader of these forums and think the advice and discussions are fantastic. This is the first time I've posted as I would hugely appreciate some impartial/honest/blunt advice about a situation I can't tell anyone about in real life. I am braced for all responses.

I am in my mid-late 20s and engaged to a really lovely man. I have known him for four years and in that time he has been my best friend and constant support. When I met him I was in my early 20s and had already had several long-term relationships, some good, some appallingly bad/abusive. I've always been one to jump straight from one relationship into another - I've never been single. I was very vulnerable when I met my fiance - he was big, affectionate, reliable, kind, really looked after me.

However, I didn't fancy him and I felt we had no chemistry at all in bed etc. I never went through the butterflies in stomach, madly in love stage with him. But the combination of qualities I've described was very attractive to me and he pursued me so we ended up together.

I know it sounds weird that I continued with the relationship despite the spark not being there - but all I could think was where the spark (basically the lust/sex thing) had got me in the past (into crap relationships with horrible men and deluding myself that awful situations were fine). I actually felt more in control of this relationship because I wasn't so in love and was being more objective.

Over the years I have come to love my fiance more and more - he is wonderful and I've told myself that other people are too hung up on the spark and that I am sensible and lucky to be with such a nice man who will also make a brilliant dad.

But the spark is not there and as a result we have almost no sex life, much to his disappointment.

A couple of months ago, I met a friend of my brother's on a night out and there were mad sparks flying between us. And it wasn't just physical attraction but a feeling of utter connection. I went home feeling very unsettled by my feelings for this man. He befriended me on facebook and then started inviting me to the pub when he went with my brother. I enjoy socialising with my brother so was glad to be included. I genuinely couldn't go to the first couple of things he invited me to (was also a bit nervous of my own feelings), and then last week I made it down to the pub. My fiance came too and my fiance and this other man got on like a house on fire - they chatted all night and I was thrilled, as it took the focus off my silly feelings for this other guy and we all had a great night.

This man then organised another night out with the same people. Through no one's intention, it was a night that I was free but my fiance wasn't - in fact my fiance was out of town. At the end of the night this man couldn't get home. He was talking about getting a very expensive taxi so I said he was welcome to my sofabed. I don't think this was sensible but at the time it seemed to be. When we got back to my flat we ended up having a few more drinks and talking until the small hours about everything, just getting to know each other. We must have been quite drunk cos somehow we ended up acknowledging this amazing spark between us. At this point we both felt very out of control, that we'd crossed a line and that it was wrong for him to stay, so we hugged and then he got a (hideously expensive) taxi home.

What do you think I should do now? My wedding is arranged for this summer. Thanks for reading and sorry it's so long.

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Eurostar · 16/01/2011 20:27

Your fiance, frankly, sounds like he is in denial and a bit desperate. He's already unhappy with your sex life and he's planning on marrying you? Ask yourself, is he agreeing to TTC so that he gets more sex and a reason to keep you tied to him rather than really wanting DC and a life with a woman who doesn't fancy him?

Him being overweight could well be a symptom of comfort eating and/or drinking and low mood due, compensating for the lack of physical love and supressing his feelings that something is wrong.

and you two are about to start TTC?! Horribly irresponsible of both of you I would say when you are both so in denial.

You are only 27, we live a long time these days, you are not even near you sexual peak frankly, if not tired with small babies/DC, your sex drive will grow and you will have affairs if you don't fancy him. Moreover, sooner or later he might end up having an affair.

Please do not under any circumstance ttc now. Forget about any worries of the wedding not going ahead, it's really not a big deal.

Get fit together, go off the pill and use a different form of contraception and see if you can grow chemistry with him. If you can't get out...

Eurostar · 16/01/2011 20:27

x posted with you last post, sorry

Eurostar · 16/01/2011 20:30

well, despite cross post, having read your last post, he is desperate and in denial. He needs therapy for his low self-esteem I'd say.

MakingMyBed · 16/01/2011 20:31

kepler - If he was cheating? Relief.

If we split up and get gorgeous girl etc? Good, he's happy - he bloody deserves it, hope she's good enough for him.

I don't think the OM is unavailable/dangerous. I think he's perfectly available and really a poppet. But agree there is excitement in the "before anyone knows where they stand" stage, which is sexy. The OM is also a complete irrelevance.

I know what it's like to have the horny, hankering relationship that is simply a direct relationship of someone treating you like shit. I had it once and it was hell on a plate. I would run a mile from that now.

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LittleMissHissyFit · 16/01/2011 20:34

Sleep on this. See how you feel in the morning.

If you still feel you want out, please be honest and frank with him and move out if you can.

He will do anything to keep you.

But he can't make you happy. The relationship is not there, and the more he bends over backwards trying to convince you to stay, the less you will respect him.

We tell women here everyday not to put up with being with someone that doesn't love you, that doesn't make you feel treasured, and if a woman was in his position having just had this conversation we would all tell her that 'he's not into you' let it go, it'll destroy you otherwise.

We had a thread on here with a poster called desolate. No idea how it all ended, but the bloke really didn't want her, but she kept hanging on, and on and it just got worse.

Be bold, be decisive and be truthful to yourself and to him.

CameronCook · 16/01/2011 21:01

MMB I just wanted to say that I really admire you for having the tough conversation that you did today.

I had a friend in a very similar situation who went through with the wedding, had a baby and then ended up having an affair.

The OM wouldn't leave his wife and friend did not want to leave her DH so had counselling and was able to look closely at her life and decide that she wanted to make a go with her DH - she has and they have now been married over 10 years with a second baby.

She says that the spark grew slowly - not sure how true that is, but she has said that they are 100% happy.

StuffingGoldBrass · 16/01/2011 21:46

You have to hold yourself together and get out of this relationship as continuing in it is a recipe for disaster. There is nothing more pointless, exhausting and unhealthy than trying to make someone love you as your fiance is doing. You don't love him as a partner and romantic love is simply not something that you or he can compel you to feel. You will end up feeling contemptous of him and treating him badly (it's hard not to feel a little contempt for someone so desperate to keep a partner that s/he will agree to absolutely anything).

aurynne · 16/01/2011 23:09

MakingMyBed, I admire how you are going through this unpleasant process. I can't find fault with what you have done so far, except one thing: during your talk, you have concentrated too much on him. Telling him how great he is, and how much he deserves a right person, and how much he is suffering by what you're doing to him... You have to stop this or, as he has done, he will argue with you to tell you he is ok with all that. The discussion you have to have with him is not about HIM, it's about YOU.

So please sit with him again and talk about YOU. Tell him YOU are not happy with him, and there is absolutely nothing he can do to change that. Tell him YOU have decided to leave, and if he really loves you, he has to let you go, because he can't make you happy. Stop telling him how wonderful he is, because he is in love with you, and that is the only part he will hear ("she thinks I am wonderful... I can still fix this!"), and will ignore all the other messages. I know it is very difficult, but you have to be true and blunt. You are not having a discussion about you trying to save your relationship. You are telling him you are leaving him. Full stop.

Good luck. I believe you are doing the right thing.

bathbuns · 16/01/2011 23:20

I also have a friend who was in your situation. She married her fiancee (although I didn't even know them then) and after one year together they divorced. It is so sad. If only she had had the guts beforehand to just end it. As sad as it would have been and as much as it would have hurt him it would have been ten times easier than what happened. He has been devastated and feels humiliated and has barely been out in a year and she has been vilified locally, even though she is lovely and just made a mistake.

Pleased don't let it get that far. You might ffeel awful but it is kinder to give your fiancee a chance to find happiess with someone else.

MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 00:16

He has come back drunk and angry which is completely understandable. Tomorrow I am going to move out for two weeks to let things settle and then we decide.

Very sad :-( Everyone here has been sure I have to do this but I'm still not sure. :-(

Sleeping on sofa :-(

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MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 02:35

I could be curled up in bed with him. Instead I'm out here on the sofa having ruined it all. I could have had marriage and family with a guy who would have protected me and worshipped me for the rest of my life. Instead I've just sabotaged all that on a whim. This is awful.

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ChippingInSmellyCheeseFreak · 17/01/2011 02:53

MMB - it's not on a whim. He may be lovely and you may love him but you are not in love with him. You are both young and you can both start again. You can't get married to someone and only give him half of your heart - and in this situation it's all you have to give.

He deserves to be with someone who love him like he loves you.

You deserve to be with someone who makes you feel 'alive' not (just) 'safe'.

Be careful though - in two weeks time you will be missing him, you will probably be wanting to 'fic' it. It's very probably not going to be long enough to realise you have done the right thing.

ChippingInSmellyCheeseFreak · 17/01/2011 02:54

fic = fix

ChippingInSmellyCheeseFreak · 17/01/2011 03:01

The one thing you need to stress to him is that this is not about the other bloke.
That feeling the way you did lead to getting a bit too close to him, that getting too close to him did not make you feel like this.

You need to stay away from the OB as well until you and DP have made a final decision.

MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:03

What do you think I should do? I know it must seem like I'm a bit mumsnet advice happy and wrecking my life like crazy based on the advice here but I still wanb more advice!

I am in a state of complete panic about what I've done.

Fiancé wants to know what I think I'm chasing looking for the spark. He thinks I have a history of having a spark with dickheads and that he's different - he is.

He has supported me through leaving my career, my sis having cancer and many other things - he has been a rock for me.

Oh Jesus I never knew it could be this easy to explode hour own life.

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MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:05

Yes I will stay away from OM - that's a whole new level of chaos I don't need. I think OM understands how serious the situation is.

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SeoraeMaeul · 17/01/2011 03:20

Didn't want to read and run - the thing to do now is walk away for 2 weeks as agreed. Go stay with a friend (ideally not family given that OM is friends with your brother and this could just lead to temptation that as you say you don't need)

For 2 weeks have no contact with him but equally important don't mope in a house sinking into a depression. If you do then of course your old life will seem appealling. Get your friends to keep you busy - go to the gym, cinema, spa, long walks, lunches - whatever it is you enjoy and some stuff you've never done before. Even come on here and we'll suggest new things for you to do!! Treat it like a mini holiday of being a simgle girl.

The two weeks should give you a new perspective. Maybe you'll miss your DF and realise that actually you would be jealous if he was with someone else, maybe you'll realise that you want counselling - not as a couple but individually him for low self esteem and you for any hangups on sex/love/relationships. And maybe you'll work out that you just want to be by yourself for a while - and turn the 2 weeks into a life choice. The trick is don't second guess how you'll feel

After 2 weeks make a decision - clean break or trying 110% to making it work out

MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:29

Thank you. I feel very alone - it is helping to get these random voices out of the ether saying sensible things.

The easiest thing for me to do would be to move in with my parents. However. They will be so upset - they've seen me in so many stupid relationship situations already - think gavin and stacey when stacey gets engaged for the 6th time. Not that bad and I've never been engaged before... But really they must despair. But the main thing is my brother is living there ATM (due to move out in the next couple of weeks but he's in the process of moving cities for his work). Living with my brother, who alhough a bit daft would surely be able to put two and two together, or if not would mention to OM that I was living there... Argh too much potential for complications. I will try to think who I can move in with.

But surely if I do want to make it work with fiancé I've essentially wrecked it.

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spidookly · 17/01/2011 03:39

As great as you keep saying this guy is, he doesn't sound that great to me.

He is trying to railroad you into marrying him using guilt and this story about how he's the nice guy who rescued you from your feeble self.

You are focused on how you don't love him enough, but it's also true that he doesn't love you enough. If he cared about your happiness he would listen when you said you didn't want to marry him. He is trying to browbeat you into making yourself unhappy so that he can get what he wants.

He wants to get married and have children and has decided you're the woman to do it with, regardless if your feelings in the matter.

Being adored is suffocating. It's not love. Someone who loves you doesn't put you on a pedestal, they love you as you are walking on the ground alongside them.

You don't owe this guy marriage or yourself.

You owe yourself a happy life.

SeoraeMaeul · 17/01/2011 03:39

If he loves you as much as he says he does - he'll give you 2 weeks in the hope of getting you back afterwards. Hardest thing for him will be to stay away and not try and change your mind! But explain if you get back to together you have to know its the right decision and you can only make that with a clear head. Warn him up front you'll not respond to any messages etc so he knows.

Of course this is just my opinion - but I really believe time on your own will help things be clear.

And for 2 weeks I'm sure one of your friends could help out. If after then you need to move on more permenantly then obviously your family would be an easier option. And whilst they may despair in the short term they will no its for the best long term

Good luck - now go get some sleep :)

MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:44

I see what you mean. However, I don't think it's fair to blame him for any part of this as I believe I have tricked him and deceived him into thinking I returned his feelings. I do love him because he makes me feel safe and secure and protected. That's important and I'd not had it before in a relationship.

It's not the first time I've "accidentally" or "unintentionally" led a man to believe my feelings wre stronger than they were.

No, this is definitely my bullshit. I recognise it.

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MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:46

Sorry last post was in response to spidookly.

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MakingMyBed · 17/01/2011 03:50

Seorae, not sure sleep is an option but what the help are you guys doing up? :-)

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SeoraeMaeul · 17/01/2011 03:55

I live abroad - middle of the day for me here but that does me I must get on and do stuff! Good luck - I'll keep an eye out for how its going

ChippingInSmellyCheeseFreak · 17/01/2011 04:04

MMB

OK - so hopefully you have grown up a bit and learned some lessons while you were in this relationship, that doesn't mean you have to stay in it.

Please crash at a friends place - sofas are quite comfy. You don't need your parents disaproval looming over you while you work this out. I know they mean well, but it's not the best place right now and especially not with your brother there. A single friend would be good.

This relationship/he will suffocate you - it's one thing to be loved and adored it's another when the other person would do literally anything to keep you, including debasing themselves, you can't have respect for a person like that and the respect you have for him now will just keep decreasing and in time you will begin to see him as a sap, a weak man and that's not nice.

You both deserve more than either of you can get out of this relationship.

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