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Husband left after affair but want him back

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solost · 14/11/2010 21:57

Hi, am new to mumsnet have never done anything like this before so here goes. In mid August I found out my husband of 17 years has been having an affair for 5 months with a 'work colleague'. He left me and our 3DC's within a couple of days. Since then he has visited us often, is attentive and caring towards me, and when he is working away - which is quite often, calls or texts frequently to talk to the dcs but inevitably ends up speaking for hours to me. He maintains he loves me as much as he did before the affair, that I did nothing wrong, that he was not disastisfied with any aspect of our marriage - I was the perfect wife? But the feelings he has for the OW are 'deeper'. Is there any hope for us? I feel that he is living a fantasy and that one day he will realise this and what he has thrown away - am I deluding myself? Please help, I miss him so much, have been with him since I was 15 and really don't want to give up on everything we had.

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TheCrackFox · 17/12/2010 22:33

Actually, regarding Christmas I would take the lead from the children. They might be feeling angry and might not be up to it or they might be desperate to see him so try to keep your options open. [open]

solost · 17/12/2010 22:43

THE CRACKFOX: Will keep options open. If DC's arn't up for it, we won't go. They come first (well for me anyway!).

EMMYLOULOU: His explanation for leaving for a week was that they won't want to see him anyway and that they need sometime without him to get over it - he's always on the phone if they need to speak to him and if they want to see him he will come over???

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solost · 17/12/2010 22:47

THUMBPLUMPUDDINGWITCH: Rescue Remedy (and half a bottle of rose) at the ready!! Thanks so much for your support. You are right and I said it to H, it would be easier if there had been rows or a bad atmosphere in the house, then the DC's would see some 'benefit' but there were no problems (well so I thought) one day he was here, the next he was gone? Thanks again x

THECRACKFOX: He never used to be like this at all. It like a different person in the old body. Thanks for your support x

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emmyloulou · 17/12/2010 22:55

No what he means is, he doesn not want to deal with the consequences of his actions.

He is leaving your children for you to deal with alone in the week before Xmas, having dropped that.

What he means is, he can't face up to what he has done to them, so he comes up with some bullshit explaining his weakness as somehow for their benefit.

He is spineless, utterly.

He is an utter prick Angry

Sole he ALWAYS has been this person, he is just showing it to more extremes. A man who can so coldly walk out on his kids and dump them like this a week before Christmas has always been a self indulgent, selfish, utter spineless excuse of a man. I am so angry for you really I am.

TheCrackFox · 17/12/2010 22:58

Seems to me he wants to cherry pick all the good times with the children and leave all the shit to you Solo. Angry

plupervert · 17/12/2010 23:32

This sounds awful.

But, solost, it's not really going to be truly dreadful with your children after you tell them, only intense. Yet people bond during periods of intense emotion - and you seem like the sort of parent to want to be there for your children when they are in turmoil. By contrast, your H, while "cherrypicking", as theCrackFox says, may miss much of the tumoil, and therefore will lost the opportunity to confort your and his children and form these bonds.

kettlecrisps · 17/12/2010 23:54

Firstly, my Epic post apology but really this man beggars belief.

I've been just catching up as had an op on Monday and maybe it's the anaesthetic wearing off or maybe it really is affecting us all as badly as me (I suspect the latter). I've been really, really upset reading how he's behaving regarding telling the children. It is quite incredulous. I think the correct term is "mind fuck" that he has been willing to play on you this whole time. Is this really the man that was playing with your feelings regarding days out with the BB and four bedroom homes?

I also agree with everyone's excellent advice that there is unfortunately no alternative but the truth for the children. Deep down they know something's wrong and although it will be a shock things will start making sense. For example they will have noticed that things between the two of you are different and tense. We all know that to be in the dark really is purgatory and it's just not fair on them anymore as you rightly know and are facing up to.

What possible reason could there be for their Dad to decide not to live with them? They will interpret it that their Dad doesn't love them enough to stay and that it is their fault. As mentioned by other posters he is a kipper and my doesn't he wriggle on the hook. You've pulled him out from his sea of fantasy and he's now looking straight into your eyes realising his fate!

The truth will ultimately set them free. They will not cry indefinitely regarding him not being there - they will though if they are never told as they will be expecting him to return at any stage. You will be able to comfort your children better than you think once this is over although it will break your heart. Or should I say the H has broken everyone's? Could he not have the decency to...... oooh ... I know everyone feels the same about him and it is difficult for you to now bear witness to him lowering himself even further.

I must say you need to be aware to be on your guard of a sudden "change of heart" he may want to return etc. Please don't pay any heed to any such comments around Christmas time as the heightened emotion felt by everyone does not make for good decisions. His decisions in the clear light of day and for the last how many months have been clear. Remind yourself of that and don't be fooled by any last minute suggestions of things being different in the New Year. I would wait a good many months for any such comment to be taken remotely seriously unless you want to play watching him struggle with "did he do the right thing etc" which I think you are beginning to realise you are far too good for.

Even if things were different it is a very long road ahead for him to come back from this. Telling the children will not only enable them to start to move forward it will also be a time when you acknowledge to yourself the terrible time personally you have had for the last few months and how much of a struggle you have pulled yourself through and out of. What has been H's contribution to your struggle? Mind fuck games playing games and drip, drip with info over the BB etc. Now you will be left to clear up his mess he says! Well actually I think you should tell him that it is very wrong if he doesn't see them for a week. He needs to reassure them that things will carry on as they have been. THIS IS THE LEAST HE CAN DO FOR GOD'S SAKE THE COWARD!

Well his romantic odyssey of the last few months where he has been the be all and end all in a tale of "three star crossed lovers" involving him playing with your head, no doubt the BB's head are all now closing into him. You are standing up very straight and taking punches on the chin and insisting on telling the children the truth.

I do seriously doubt about any arrangement over Christmas involving the two of you with the children being wise for anyone.

To borrow from Christmas Carol he really needs to feel like Tiny Time peering through the window at what Christmas could have been like. This is the only way he can really feel his future. Him just leaving after lunch - well I'm sure someone as selfish as him will be able to snap out of it quite quickly and focus back on the BB. However I think you are underestimating how you will feel and how painful it will be - more so for you than him. Please see that. You can't make him feel your pain he quite clearly doesn't "get" it. You will only be making yourself suffer. For all the tears in his eyes - what have his actions been?

Only by being the Tiny Tim do I think this particular man who seems to have no ability to put others before himself will he feel the full force of being visited by the ghost of Christmas Future. Please do put it to the children that there are other ways to spend Christmas - they will adapt to the new plans and get excited.

I really think you've done a sterling job and that Christmas day you really need to think of your mental health and respect for yourself to realise that to put yourself through it is really only of benefit to the H. The children will ultimately be confused by it I feel and hope everything will be ok again. When he leaves there will be a great deal of tears for you to clear up. This sort of meet up happens when both parties and children are well adjusted to the new family dynamic. It will just be too confusing for everyone.

Please think of yourself in this instance. Honestly if anyone here felt it was a good idea believe us we'd say so - it really is a very bad idea especially for you. Please be kind to yourself.

Eurostar · 18/12/2010 00:10

Hi, first time posting on this thread. Wishing you all the best for tomorrow.

You mentioned somewhere about shielding exH from the tears DD cries every night - I would say, don't do this, he should know the enormity of the hurt he has caused. Frankly if there was any way you could record it surreptitiously and play it back to him I would. He has made her suffer and you are having to carry it alone. He doesn't deserve the least bit of protection. I would also think about some professional help for your DD in due course, abandonment of a girl by a father at a formative age can lead to damaging disordered attachments in relationships in later life.

This does feel like a man who discovered the physical excitement and satisfaction of sex with a new person (which all of us could feel if we gave in to it) and has convinced himself it must mean something more - and now he is realising that he has royally messed up and that his life from now on will be messier and less happy once the sheen of lust rubs off and he is left with someone less compatible than you. I can imagine he is really regretting this although perhaps profiting from OW upping the bar sexually to try and keep him interested. Sometimes on here I think people are too to quick say it's impossible that a person will feel better with the OW/M; but in your case, there's no sense he has really found a "deep connection" at all.

emmyloulou · 18/12/2010 01:07

Another one who definately thinks you should cancel xmas.

Not only because who the F does he think he is. But dropping this on the kids and they NEED to know, going out for a family Xmas will be confusing.

Personally I agree with whoever said, Tiny Tim, ghost of Xmas future, this is HIS future all of his own doing.

I'd just say casually tomorrow, as best you can. Don't worry about Xmas Day. I'v made other plans, if he starts spouting the family line, just say the children are my family now not you, you made your choice, now look.

Watch him scarper and I tell you now he will have a shit Christmas and be prepared for him asking to come back.

Arrange a knees up with family, get the kids baking. Leave HIM out. How dare he break your daughters heart like this then fuck off for a week, words fail me.

Time to play hardball and shield the kids from his shittiness. As I can tell you know the minute he feels it's akward with the kids, he'll dump them for a week, until it settles again and so on.

emmyloulou · 18/12/2010 01:15

Oh and my parents split up in similar cirs.....I think I was 8. We went to relatives, went ice skating on xmas eve and had a ball, I still remember it now. It was fine, Dad was with OW.......they split up.

My mum met someone else Grin

CheerfulYank · 18/12/2010 01:41

I haven't had time to read the whole thread, but you're being very brave. I know you feel awful but please remember this is not your fault. He has done this and he does not have the option of "not looking like the bad guy." He is the bad guy, no two ways about it.

I think it will prolong the hurt for your DCs to get the information "a piece at a time".

What a bastard. If I could afford a trip across the pond I'd come just to smack him in the ear.

StarExpat · 18/12/2010 06:55

Emmylou you mean cancel the dinner right? Not cancel xmas? Just making sure!
It's going to be so hard today bit once it's over the healing can begin. Xxx thinking of you today

ScaredOfCows · 18/12/2010 08:19

Good luck for today, Solo. It really sounds as though your children are ready for the truth and need to hear it to be able to work out the stuff they already realise.

Would it be a possibility to go to either set of grandparents for Xmas day? I'm sure the children would appreciate a busy grandparenty Xmas. H could drop in for a visit if he, and you and the children, wanted, but with less pressure on the children and you to 'perform', and less abruptness when he goes as there will be distractions around.

emmyloulou · 18/12/2010 08:40

Yes ofc! Cancel the dinner but you can still have a great xmas with the kids.

dontdisstheteens · 18/12/2010 11:54

Thinking of you all today. X

Doha · 18/12/2010 12:00

Oh l am sure you and your DC's could go out for Xmas dinner without him.
He can see them on boxing day when you are at work.

This has been his choice. He chose OW over you. Let him experience Xmas without the DC's and let him see what he has thrown away.

solost · 18/12/2010 15:09

He has cancelled, snow too bad for him to get to us. We are re-arranging for one day next week. He is still trying to backslide re: telling DC's about BB but I am standing firm. I would tell them myself but I really think it is HIS responsibility and I want him to look them in the face and see their pain when they find out. BUT if he doesn't come through next week then I will have to tell them alone - I am determined they will know before Xmas.

Will be back later, we are going to buy a sledge and have some fun!

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 18/12/2010 15:40

ah, snow is being a convenient excuse for lots of things around the UK at the moment

he only gets one more chance, solost

have fun in the snow, but I don't reckon anywhere has any sledges left...

LittleMissHoHoHoFit · 18/12/2010 19:20

Hmm, how convenient indeed.

He is really squirming isn't he.
Agree with AF as always.

920 posts Solo, you had better start thinking of a new title for your new thread, the one where you find your new path to a happier, more honest and truthful life.

StarExpat · 18/12/2010 20:40

Where in the country are you, solost? I'm in Surrey and we searched everywhere for a sledge. No luck! Did you have any luck?

solost · 18/12/2010 22:19

ANYFUCKER: Thanks! We had a great time - got a sledge too!!!! - Local DIY shop - we tried to get one last time but they were all sold out but the canny buggers re-stocked and are charging double!!!

LMHHHF: Not sure how to start a new thread, not sure of the title either - all suggestions welcomed!

STAREXPAT: Yorkshire - sledges a plenty here! You southern jessies are never prepared are you!!! Smile

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StarExpat · 18/12/2010 22:23

LOL I'm from a snowy part of the USA so it's odd to me, too Xmas Grin

I'm glad you had a good day :) You deserve it.

Get H to come and tell them as early next week as possible, if not tomorrow if the snow isn't so bad for travel. He can only hide behind weather for so long.

StarExpat · 18/12/2010 22:25

New thread before it hits 1000 posts or else we can't post on it anymore. Just go to "start a new thread" at the top of Relationships topic area.

And I think you should namechange to sostrong :)

thumbplumpuddingwitch · 18/12/2010 22:30

Solost - glad you got a sledge!
To start a new thread, you just go to the top of this one and right under where it says Talk: Relationships there is a link that says Start a new thread in this topic. Click on that, choose a new title (something positive that gives a hint back to this one, maybe - like "husband gone and am moving forward without him") and Create new conversation.

Then - click on the link in the address bar at the very top of your screen, highlight the whole web address and follow the directions below the smileys on how to post a link.

I can't easily demonstrate it accurately here without it turning into a link but you do and then you past the link without a gap, then you put at the end of the link and if you want to check you have done it right, click on Preview post before you post it.

It would be better for you to do it yourself, because anyone who (like me) has the Opening Poster's posts highlighted would like to see your posts highlighted rather than anyone else's.

Your H is a slimy cowardly git - bet he could have got to you if he'd tried. Give him until Wednesday and if he hasn't come up with the goods then, you'll have to bite the bullet, tell them yourself, and cancel the restaurant ANYWAY because, quite frankly, he has NO RIGHT to expect you to go through with such a torturous experience; but there is also the risk that snow might "keep him away" then as well, leaving you in a hole.

Be strong - you're doing great!

thumbplumpuddingwitch · 18/12/2010 22:32

Actually, if you just create a new thread and tell us you've done it, I or someone else can post the link here if you want.

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