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Fab & Glam 11 - A New Chapter

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Tanee58 · 11/08/2010 19:07

I figure that the reason I haven't been able to post all day, is because we've run out of thread - again!! Grin Hope you all find this, my fellow Teabags. Smile Are contenders for the longest-running MN thread?

Anyhoo, TFM, I have a tent, and an inflatable mattress. And I quite fancy a trip oop north!

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ginnny · 15/04/2011 16:43

Tannee that is brilliant news! I'm so glad things are going well for us all. Your neighbour is lucky to have you to talk to and TFM is a great example to follow. You are an inspiration to us all.
I feel like I have changed so much over the last year. I really won't put up with any crap now. I nipped the ex gf in the bud and made it clear I was prepared to walk away if he didn't sort it (And I really was too).
Maybe 5 years with dickhead taught me something after all!

TimeForMeIsFree · 15/04/2011 17:30

Ginny, that's great and am really pleased to hear that. TBH he looks such a nice guy on your FB pics, he looks a proper sweetie, I couldn't imagine him up to no good Smile

Tanee, I can so relate to your neighbour and all of her fears, it was not wanting to be a single parent and have to go through everything that went with it that kept me in my situation far longer than I should have been but oh boy, if I had known that I would be as happy as I am today I wouldn't have left it so long. Maybe, if she got herself a little job while she is still with him that would help to raise her self esteem. I put myself forward for a course with the jobcentre that also involves a work placement. I didn't feel ready for it, I was scared witless but I knew I wanted y life to be different so I took the bull by the horns and I am so glad that I did. I now have a fantastic work placement and it has helped me tremendously with my self esteem and confidence. I can honestly say I am now back to the woman I was before I laid eyes on the ex. I never ever thought that I would be back to being that person again, I thought she had gone for good but she hasn't!!! Grin. You keep talking to your neighbour Tanee, it's all well and good being scared of the unknown but the unknown is a much nicer place than where she is living right now.

I am so pleased to read that everything is going well with you and DP. It's been a long hard road for you Tanee and I am so glad that sticking it out has finally paid off. xx

Tanee58 · 16/04/2011 21:22

TFM, that's fantastic about the work placement. I do think work is essential to self-esteem (or not - I'm experiencing ups and downs with my job atm and really want a change of career). Are you still thinking of becoming a counsellor? You would be fantastic and tbh, the world of women needs you!

Yes, I'm speaking to neighbour regularly. She's had a poor history with men - a dominating father (though he has his good side and helped us out when our electricity failed on the coldest night of the year) - I was shocked by some of the stories she told of his abuse. She married at 17 to escape him, but her first DH gambled and she ended it. She was independent and brought up her DD alone for several years till she met DH2 on holiday, had a whirlwind 9 day romance and got engaged very quickly. She says he was DESPERATE to marry her, but things began to change when he joined her in the UK. He's very demanding, expects a traditional Greek wife with everything done for him - really, what he wants is a replacement for his mother, with 'extras' Hmm. All he does is bring in an income, but nothing to help round the house. Fair enough to some extent, as she doesn't work outside the house, but her self-esteem is so low, despite her strong exterior, and apart from her family, she doesn't go out much (We're changing that, she and I have agreed to go out for coffee on my days off, and maybe go out for dinner and leave her DH to cook for himself!). I quite liked her DH, and he gets on well with DP, but he seems not really committed to the marriage, in that he goes off to visit his previous family and his mother in Greece every couple of months, without her, and every five years or so, he does this disappearing act - this is the third time and she says she's walking on eggshells now, wondering how long it'll be before he does it again. He's told her he loves her and wants to come home, but when he's away, he doesn't even text his son to say hallo, and has left them with no money. He had the cheek to send her an envelope of vouchers and coupons! I'm spitting with annoyance for her. We did a bit of role playing last week, acting out how she should behave when he phones. I played her, and she feel about laughing at how I spoke to 'him', but said she couldn't be that detached.

Well, slow steps. Look how long it took us to all stand up for ourselves. And HOW it works! Smile

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Tanee58 · 16/04/2011 21:59

Aw, DP just brought me in a bowl of salad, prepared with his own fair hands (it took over an hour as he insists on washing and drying the leaves individually since our spinner broke) - and he even tossed it for me (to bring the feta to the surface, he said). Isn't he sweet, and what a change from this time last year. I told him that he's my favourite tosser Grin!

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ginnny · 18/04/2011 10:01

Bless him Tannee. It's the little things that make all the difference sometimes isn't it.
TFM - you are right. He is a sweetie, he is the best thing that ever happened to me and I cant believe my luck sometimes. I only wish I'd met him 20 years ago I areas of wasting my time on those idiots - but then I wouldn't have had my boys so things do happen for a reason.

ginnny · 18/04/2011 10:03

I meant "Instead of wasting my time" -I can't type on this phone!!!

TimeForMeIsFree · 18/04/2011 10:30

I was thinking exactly the same thing last night Ginny, that I had wasted 11 years of my life on that man, waiting for him to treat me like a human being, never mind like an equal partner. I honestly don't feel I gained anything from that relationship, apart from DD of course. There was never a long enough period of stability or happiness for me to have any nice memories, every special occasion was tarnished by his moods and abuse. It really does feel like a waste of all those years.

I am feeling ready for dating again now though Smile never thought I would see the day. Now, just to find a decent man!

ginnny · 18/04/2011 10:58

I always say what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. I wasted 5 years on that drunken scumbag but I came out of it (eventually) knowing I was worth more and i can stand up for myself now in a way I never could before. Every bad experience teaches us something I'm sure.
In fact I'm pretty sure that is why I met dp when I did. 20 years ago I wouldn't have appreciated him. It's only because of all the bad relationships that I am finally able to appreciate a good one.

TimeForMeIsFree · 18/04/2011 11:21

That's true Ginny, being with him taught me a lot, especially about myself. And I am certainly stronger for everything he put me through, I think the reason why he continues to be an arse is because I have totally changed my life and am smiling, I think he would have loved it if I had failed. My main problem is that I still expect him to behave like a 'normal' human being but as he isn't one he doesn't. It's that that takes some getting used to.

Anniegetyourgun · 18/04/2011 22:44

25 years here, guess I take the championship mug (instead of cup, geddit).

ginnny · 19/04/2011 11:09

That is why you are so wise Annie - you had a very long learning curve
Grin

TimeForMeIsFree · 19/04/2011 11:58

Annie, 25 years! You deserve a medal for being a champion mug Grin

Maybe we should be thanking these men for helping us to become the strong, wise women that we are!

Tanee58 · 19/04/2011 12:37

Congratulations Annie! The silver mug cup is yours!

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Givenchy · 03/05/2011 09:43

23 years here - second place in the championship Hmm

Anniegetyourgun · 03/05/2011 10:08

Well for god's sake don't go for the gold, get OUT of there woman, I keep telling you! Unlike me, you still have some looks left.

Givenchy · 03/05/2011 17:20

He is not nasty enough to make me go. We do have a nice life but, although it is fulfilling in some ways, it is not enough for me. Mind you, the grass is always greener on the other side - being alone for the rest of my life would be awful.

I did tell him to go a few weeks ago, during an argument. The rest of the time he is bearable.

Not much of a life, but better than being alone!

How are you all doing girls? I am still taking WW classes and loving it. I am a lot more confident at dealing with people now and even told one member to find another meeting as she and her husband were causing trouble.

I am back into card making as beading takes too much time at the moment. I now have a cat - can't remember if I told you before. She is adopted from next-door.

TimeForMeIsFree · 03/05/2011 18:19

No way Givenchy, no way is being miserable and just settling for what you have better than being alone. I am so much less lonely now than I ever was living with the ex. See, new doors open, your life changes, moves in a different direction, and it is FAB!

I was reading my very first thread the other day, dated 2007 and you were posting much of the same on there, although your posts have been deleted I do remember, that's four years ago!! You are gorgeous woman!! Bloody gorgeous! You are intelligent and have so much going for you, God, your life could be so good.

Ok Lecture over, as you were Grin

All good at my end thank you for asking. Nothing special happening apart from life being good in general. No drama, totally abuse free, happy, relaxed and fun. Smile

ginnny · 04/05/2011 11:14

Your post is very sad Givenchy.
Fast forward another 23 years in your mind to when ds has grown up and left home and its just you and him - how does that make you feel?

Its easy for us to say I know but life is short and you do deserve to be happy in every way not just settling for what you have now.
And another thing - you certainly wouldn't be alone for long (unless you wanted to be of course). I bet there would be a queue of eligible men round the block if you were on the market Grin
Lecture over!!!
Hi TFM - same here. My life is very quiet now - no dramas or worries, just nice and calm. Its great!!!

TimeForMeIsFree · 04/05/2011 15:10

Smile It's nice isn't it Ginny, I'm loving it. He is trying to mess with my head a little bit though I think. DD keeps telling me things he has said, things that imply he is still thinking of me. Also he and DD have had a week together and he sent friendly text updates with 'x' at the end but yet he has recently emailed to ask if he can take DD to her hospital appointment himself as he can't be around me Hmm I think there is an attempt at manipulation going on but I'm not falling for it. I've told him I have no problem with him taking DD alone (it's only a review) I hope I'm not being petty and lowering myself to his level but I have no desire to be around him either. I feel I have an obligation to DD to try to maintain some sort of friendship with him, to be grown up about it all but he has made that totally impossible so I really just want to put an end to it and stop trying to be the bigger person.

Ok, rant over Smile

Givenchy, I wrote a post to you very similar to Ginnys yesterday but deleted it. In my post I also said that he doesn't have to do anything nasty in order for you to leave. If you are unhappy you have every right to leave. If you continue in a relationship where you feel so unfulfilled you will come to resent it over time and that's when things will turn nasty. But you don't need an excuse to leave.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/05/2011 15:36

Being "alone" (with between two and four DCs in any given week, two cats, family, friends and workmates on the rare occasions I'm working) is so much better than having that miserable git of an XH in my life. Hell, talking to myself when everybody is out is better company! And if I met a nice single barber I'd be available...

Givenchy · 04/05/2011 16:50

My barber is not single though - unfortunately!

It is so lovely to see all your lovely pics and updates on FB Ginnny. I am so happy that you have met someone who makes you feel special.

Has anyone heard from Baffy lately?

Hi Tanee and HW - we NEED that lunch.

Hi to everyone else that I have missed - I do pop on here occasionally, although the rest of the site is just too different now.

macdoodle · 05/05/2011 17:47

Hi ladies!
Dior, IME (twice, once with XH, and recently with ex DP), it is far far better to be alone than to be with someone who doesnt make you happy/float your boat/even if they're not abusive.

ginnny · 06/05/2011 10:30

Amen to that MacD
Hope you are OK
x

Givenchy · 07/05/2011 18:57

Yes, I am sure that you are right. It is just that, when I challenge him about things, he always makes me feel that it is me that is the problem. I then think that I must just need to try harder.

I also don't want to be alone. Just being honest here :(

ladylush · 20/05/2011 11:05

Hi all. Took me a while to find you! Not much to report here. dd continues to have physiotherapy and is doing well. Don't know yet when she will walk but her core strength is improving. We are going on holiday soon so looking forward to that +++ Apart from the flight. I have a phobia of flying. Had a quick scan. Glad most of you are ok. Givenchy - I felt sad when you said your h was not awful enough to leave. It isn't a convincing reason to stay with someone.