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Breaking contact with OM

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howdiditcometothis · 09/08/2010 12:53

Back story here

I feel like I'm having a breakdown. I've taken some time away and made the decision to work on my marriage -it is not bad enough to justify ending it. I know this means no contact whatsoever with OM. He says that he understands and supports the decision I've made but thinks we can maintain a friendship. I can't do that - I'm in love with him and I can't pretend to be his friend and ignore those intense feelings. I'm posting here to stop me replying to him or picking up the phone. I know if we talk, I won't feel able to do it. I would be so grateful if somebody would tell me how they have done this. I feel desperate. I need to switch these feelings off and forget about him. Somebody must have done this successfully before. PLease if you have dealt with a situation like this, please help me to end this. I need to get my life back on track.

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piratecat · 10/08/2010 22:44

i am glad i found this thread, there isn't much i can say to help you thru this op, but i do, do , do understand what you are going through emotionally.

You can only change your number, he is grasping and clawing and unable to let you go at the moment. Dunno, maybe with the messaging it'll start to get on your tits, with the lyrics and such ( great song that tho)

YET,

you and your dh have to go talk to someone, esp if he's not able to see the problems, or agree to make changes, changes with you, that will bring your marriage back to you, in whatever new form it could be.

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celticfairy101 · 10/08/2010 22:44

For the love of all that's decent, but that link is horrendous.

'To back a horse that's good for glue
Darling is this love?'

Really?

I'd be counting the blackheads on my DP's back rather than read that.

I see this as a Dear John letter tbh.

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digggers · 10/08/2010 23:00

Fuck sake, what is it with ageing northern blokes and elbow? My OM was a Yorkshire man from Leeds with a silver toungue and an elbow obsession too. He sent me the lyrics to this exact same song too during our affair. I think elbow must appeal to married northern blokes, who realise they aren't gorgeous, so are pleased to be reminded that a down to earth dark northern earthiness coupled with plenty of tender imagary and doomed romanticism can turn a fat northern middle aged bloke into a Romeo.

Not saying he's playing you, but just saying tisn't original. I think we must have similar taste in men. My ex sounds very like your dh too. A beautiful dreamer with no gumption and no drive.

Keep that will power up. And I'm sure there's a way to change your work number and block his email. Might be a bit awkward and embarresing in the short term, might save your sanity in the long term.

Hugs xx how long have you done now without contacting him?

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howdiditcometothis · 10/08/2010 23:17

Digggers that made me smile. I'm a bit of an elbow fan - think Guy Garvey bit of a poet so it's not completely random that he sent me that. But agreed that it's not original - that whole album was a bit of a theme of the affair - resonated. He's a musician on the side and knows quite a lot of people on the northern music scene from the studios and stuff - don't want to say too much for fear of making him identifiable.

Yes does sound like we have similar tatse. OM looks quite like an older more Both v attractive.

It looks such a cliche but it doesn't feel that way. The thing that makes me smile a bit about your posts is the references to doomed romaticism - I have more than one email from him saying he's never gone in for 'doomed romaticism' and wouldn't start now. I have however got 2 albums worth of his own music and I beg to differ....

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howdiditcometothis · 10/08/2010 23:19

Oh and on the contact front - half a day. Tomorrow is another day though and I at least feel like he is starting to get the message and will leave me be.

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mummylin2495 · 10/08/2010 23:22

shows how out of touch i am with music,i thought these men were doing something with their elbows Grin

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piratecat · 10/08/2010 23:29

guy garvey is lush tho Wink

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digggers · 11/08/2010 00:20

racks brain to think of the indentity of howdi's bit on the side

oh my god woman, you're not shagging Marc Riley aren't you?

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digggers · 11/08/2010 00:26

I meant not not shagging.

Ahem!

Anyway, here's to the next half a day! Night night x

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kittya · 11/08/2010 00:34

Musicians and Northern blokes?? god, I hope I dont know him!! stay away!! I have a soft spot for Elbow too. Still, they are only words.

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msbrightside · 11/08/2010 12:25

howdiditcometothis, I do feel for you - getting these super charged emotional texts must mess with your head so much, its really not fair. you get any comfort from them at all?

I'm sure you know how he feels about you, I dont see why he needs to keep shouting about it(espec with twatty lyrics!) block them, change number etc, give yourself a breather from the pressure.

this kind of love affair is totally addictive, fills you up with endorphins and makes life incredibly exciting - its hard to come down from.. but you must come down.. take some time to realise he is not the answer to whatever it is thats lacking.

your main relationship here is with your husband, the OM is a total distraction to that, not the remedy. you need to honestly examine whats going on with DP and figure out whether you can solve things between you. once thats been dealt with you will know which direction to go in.

I'm not diminishing the feelings you have towards the OM at all btw, I'm sure they feel hugely real and true its just they will distort the main focus which is your CURRENT relationship

I don;t think you can be in a position to go into a new relationship with OM when all this stuff is unresolved - it'll just not be based on truth.

I'm speaking from heartbreaking experience - i would love to be with my fella but he has a whole load of stuff to sort out with his DP before any of that could ever happen, like you they have a child and he still cares for her - I understand that now and will step back, live in hope but not be a fool - the love I feel has not withered and i'm sure his hasn't either and if its meant to happen it will..

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kittya · 11/08/2010 12:41

Who's Marc Riley? I thought he was a dj.

Two albums worth? only lyrics, Im afraid, not take it seriously. It doesnt mean they are his feelings.

Now that I know he is a silver tongued aging musician this puts him in a whole different light. If you want your marriage to really work then change your phone number, be strong, stop listening to music for awhile, that will help. If anything to do with him comes on the radio, turn it off!!! It wont come to anygood.

Good Luck!!!x

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howdiditcometothis · 11/08/2010 12:55

Thanks for this msbrightside. I really admire what you're doing. It's so heartbreaking. I really want to be strong and make that break but everytime I call time on it (and I have a few times) I just feel overwhelmed with a massive sense of loss. It is such a weird thing, ever since the beginning we've been in touch - there has never ever been a day when we weren't in touch - even when I went abroad for two weeks, he wrote to me everyday. It's hard to lose that bond and cut it off - when deep down neither of you want to do it. But I agree, I know that I need to come back down to earth and focus on my real life situation. And I know if I have any chance of fixing things I have to cut him out f my life altogether.

It's weird I do get comfort from the messages in that I know his head is as all over the place as mine is. Equally I know we can't continue like this. The number of times, I've got in my car and started to drive the twenty miles to his house and parked up somewhere along the way and sat and sobbed and driven back home. I feel so removed from DH at the moment - it feels like we are strangers. I know that is probably entirely my fault but things were like that well before OM came on the scene. I don't know how to even begin to fix things.

He's been in touch again today but seems more resigned that it's got to end. He thinks I should go and try and iron everything out with somebody trained - he's getting me an informal referral to somebody he knows and trusts. No declarations of undying love just some practical stuff and the promise to be there if I need him even on a mates' basis. He says he's got a picture of me in his head smiling and laughing the first time he met me and wants to help me get back to that and find happiness with DH. He has offered to change his number and says he's had a word with himself and he should be the one to take control of the situation and take himself out of the picture.

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howdiditcometothis · 11/08/2010 12:59

He isn't a musician by job. He's a professional guy but heavily involved in music in his spare time. Don't want to say more than that - he's not famouus but possibly identifiable. That's all.

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kittya · 11/08/2010 13:16

Do you really want to be married? Maybe you need a break from both, could you be on your own for awhile?

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droves · 11/08/2010 13:18

bloody hell , op your OM is a cheese-ball !
FULL BLOWN GORGONZOLA !

Song lyrics? beautiful txt saying how much he loves you , needs you , wants you ,...yada yada yada ! ..alarm bells are ringing here !!!!!

He is too practiced at this.
Id bet hes been om before.

And hes not really listening to you is he?
You told him its over , not to txt you and hes still doing it. wtf??
How important are you to him , if he cant leave you alone when youve asked him too.??
not very imo.
Its all about him.

The undying love declarations are for his benefit ....TRUST ME IF HE ACTUALLY GOT YOU HE`D LOOSE INTREST VERY QUICKLY.

Nice decent men do not get involved with married women imo.
Slime-bags who are commitment phobic do , because they wont need to commit to a woman whos already married.

You dont buy a lawnmower to cut someone elses grass !

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kittya · 11/08/2010 13:23

yes its the lyrics that got me to. He's not a musician but theres two albums worth? so he hangs around with musicians and it rubs off on him? Be very careful, they are just words and, not even his own words.

I know someone who was exactly the same with his married woman. He will be singing to you down the phone next!! it is cheesy.

Be honest with yourself about your marriage though.

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msbrightside · 11/08/2010 13:23

I like the sound of what he's doing and saying, offering to step back and making your emotional and mental health a priority. I'd take the counselling sessions, I think they'd help enormously.

I know the thought of the lack of contact is terrifying - you've come to depend on it and its part of your daily life, but you CAN stop it. of course it will hurt, feel odd, be very upsetting for a while but it will become easier with time. its not the end of everything, you just need to step off the roller coaster for a while x

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Popzie · 11/08/2010 13:25

I was in the same situation as you last year - everything came to a head last March when I confessed my emotional affair to DH, which had been going on for about a year.

It did seem very real at the time, but it messed me up enormously. It was just SO addictive. The worse I felt, the more I wanted OM. I couldn't do anything to relieve the symptoms of the break up without just sitting it out and hoping I'd feel better soon.

When I was having the affair, it was like I had come to a cross road in my life that I didn't want to be at. Before OM told me his true feelings for me, I was contented - a little vulnerable and gullible I suppose because I had a 1yr old and was just getting back to 'normal' - but happy-ish all the same. I had an okay relationship with DH but wel also had our issues so life wasn't perfect.

But OM put a whole new slant on life for me. He was exciting and dangerous and his life represented everything that my life wasn't. I also loved the way he seemed to understand me on a level my DH didn't. It was too easy to get carried away until I just didn't know what was right anymore.

There was nothing else for it. Although OM wasn't asking me to run away with him, I felt something had to give. Something told me that DH was still the right choice, even though I wasn't passionately in love with him. It came down to the fact that I couldn't leave him because of the kids - I just couldn't break their hearts. I told myself to get a grip and that even though the OM and I get on better as people, my DH had never let me down. I chose him because he was strong and handsome and confident. I just had to trust the fact that I'd made the right decision ten years ago when we got together.

I therefore knew I had to sabotage my relationship with OM so that I couldn't possibly speak to him again. I told my DH - he sanctioned our 'friendship', the OM now hates me because he is long-term friends with my DH and think what I did undermined him and sabotaged their friendship (I think he did that quite well himself!)

Now, six months later I'm feeling so much better about it. It's been really hard - going from pining to anger to despair at times, but above all I've got my family life back again and I'm interested once more in my life the way it was before all of the high-drama feelings and secrecy of the affair took hold.

I'd never go back there. My view is that marriages are hard work and third parties should keep themselves well away of couples trying to make a go of things - sometimes against the odds. I was foolish to have fallen but I really couldn't have done much about it at the time. If I let myself I could easily love OM again - but I'm determined to do what is right and find other ways of colouring my life so that I don't loose my sanity at the same time. It's not all OMs fault - I played a bit part in taking things beyond what is acceptable, but I didn't start it and I didn't go looking for it. If ever I see an outsider making a move on someone married, I'd intervene and tell them to back right off. It's easy to have your head turned when you're 'trapped' (which I how I feel in my marriage sometimes, as do a lot of people). It's just best not go there in the first place.

OP; Just think about a years time. Tell OM to stop contacting you so you can work things out for yourself. It may be that you are meant for each other, but give yourself a chance to find it out without him pressuring you.

To make things easier, tell yourself that after a few months you'll go and see him and talk to him - even if you never do. It's the tactic I used and helped lift that feeling of doom. I never have seen him since - or even spoken to him - but I always tell myself that in two months time, when I know what's what, I'll see OM and we'll have a heart to heart about what happened. That meeting will never happen of course, but it just helps.

Good luck xx

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digggers · 11/08/2010 13:28

it could sound positive, you're both making the right noises, but howdi, you sound like you are back in the bubble. you ARE STILL TALKING TO HIM! REALITY CHECK WOMAN! regardless of whether you're talking about not talking, you are still intimate, still sharing everything going on in your head on a daily basis. You've asked him to stop contacting you, so now he's contacting you about not contacting you? like doh! come on woman. give yourself a chance.

Do not allow this man to rescue you and be your saviour. You need to break the cycle, you do not need another rescuer. You need to sort yourself out and rescue yourself or else you'll not get to like yourself again.

If he helps you get a counsellor, then he's still involved. If he's there being your mate, then he's still in your head. It will not end, you won't feel better, you'll still be caught in this hell of guilt and unrequited love, without occassional head above water moments when you're deep enough in denial to forget how fucked up you are. You're like a herion addict, getting smacked up to blot out your unhappiness. Most of the time you know you're in a mess , but occassionally you're high and you forget. So you keep chasing that high. But it's not real. And it's killing you.

Again I will say, if you want to be with this man, then leave your husband and be with him. Personally I think you need time alone, but if you can't cut him off then leave your husband. But DO NOT keep up this deceit, it is not right and you will just continue creating more hurt for everyone. You're heart won't recover from this unless you do the right thing, REMEMBER YOU ARE HAVING AN AFFAIR. Please stop it

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loves2walk · 11/08/2010 13:30

But why howdi is he getting you this referral? He is still being involved in your life and that's a very personal thing to be involved in. I think you should back away from that - find your own therapist. He will use this as an excuse to ask how it is going and then how are you finding him/her? And so on. You need to ignore anything from OM.

Get your H on board a bit more. Look together for someone but don't take help, practical or emotional from the OM when you're trying to break contact. You are giving him massive mixed messages.

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kittya · 11/08/2010 13:35

Is sounds really patronising if you ask me. Is he older then you? I think he's stringing you along with his syrupy words.

I actually think you should try and be on your own for awhile, if thats possible. OM is not being far to you and you arent being fair to your husband.

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yesme2 · 11/08/2010 16:36

pop- I just wanted to say that I empathise 100% with what you said.
It comforts me- and I hope the OP - to know that there are others in the same boat.

I got involved in an email/phone thing for over 2 years with someone from my past who got in touch with me. He was unhappy- his wife had left him - but he wanted her back.
I was in a long marriage and had been unhappy for a long time. Like you, I didn't go looking for it - it was a friendship for ages until he moved the boundaries.

We got very very close and he meant a great deal to me. He seemed to understand me on a level that my DH and very few people on the plant do. He said he felt the same.

We met a few times, but hardly ever due to distance, and it was "wow"! the most intense chemistry too. I held back, physically, as I knew his heart was elsewhere.

It all came crashing down for me when he said he wanted to take things futher, but when we met and tried, he backed off, big time.

I was left feeling that I had just filled some kind of hole in his life and I didn't really mean anything to him at all.

I suppose all I am saying to the OP is that unless you are both free and both want the same thing at the same time, it is very , very hard.

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howdiditcometothis · 11/08/2010 17:14

It is a comfort to know other people are in the same boat. And I do relate to the incredible chemistry.

I just feel worn down by everything now to be honest. I want some proper closure and after everything that has passed, an exchange of text messages doesn't feel 'final enough' and clearly doesn't to OM as the contact hasn't stopped.

What would you make of this:

'I've got some ideas for releasing your pain but they would need a phone call or even meeting up to discuss x need to act decisively though x I love you x'


'Please try and be kind to yourself and remember that you have been restrained and you did tell [DH] and that things could be so much messier. We will sort all of this out and you will never lose my respect and love, for what that is worth.'

I haven't responded.

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loves2walk · 11/08/2010 17:19

What do you think his ideas are? Do you think he's going to try and persuade you to leave your H? Is that going to make it all worse for you?

You said you fear you are on the edge of a breakdown and you're using alcohol to blot out the pain. Are you OK? Is meeting him to discuss his ideas going to help? or make things worse?

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