Alas poor Nic! I sacked her, Kenton. Death comes to Ambridge. Discuss the remaining Archers here. (Title Edited by MNHQ)

[PseudoBadger]

So it’s taken a sad, untimely death to bring me out of retirement. How I have missed you all
Welcome to thread 86!

vango snap! Even if you are ‘ in lurve’ with whiny William 😉😉

choccy I think it was meant to be unintelligible. There was a BBC-created video on Twitter with subtitles of her conversation with Joe, and those bits were simply subbed 'whispers'.

Does anyone with knowledge of family law have any insight into what might happen with custody of the children? Jake and Mia's bio dad is around but I'm not sure how much contact they have. Would Will have a case for custody, perhaps to keep them with Poppy? Incidentally, the BBC bio of Nic indicates that she 'leaves behind four children'. Someone on the previous thread pointed out that they should probably have got George to the hospital too. I don't think they called Ed and Emma, did they?

I heard all last's episode & don't care about spoilers, anyway.

I only dip into TA occasionally nowadays. Is it worthwhile to listen on catchup -- is the development leading to last night's events quite dramatic/as good as TA gets?

last night's...

Can anyone with better hearing or imagination than me work out what she actually said? Someone further back in thread linked to an extremely helpful twitter feed of the script at that point.

Anyway, I don't know what you are all complaining about - here's my story:

At 7pm last night I was in my car, waiting outside a house for my 15yo son to emerge from a party (it was an after school thing and he needed to come home to pack for a weekend camp). He texted to say he was delayed getting some pizza, and I was fine about that, knowing I could listen to TA in peace.

At 7:13, he yanked open the car door and told me that was I being invited in (his friend's mum was there), so I had little choice but to pull myself away from that crucial minute!

To add insult, when I stepped into the kitchen to meet the mum, her first act was to turn off the radio which I swear was broadcasting Nic's (what I now know to be) last gasps.

So I only learnt of Nic's death on MN, when I caught up with the end of the last thread. I didn't get to hear the episode ending until much later. (And I found the Joe / Nic final moments moving).

People can be so cruel and thoughtless D3.
You need to train your DS better!

they should probably have got George to the hospital too. I don't think they called Ed and Emma, did they?

I woke up worrying about this. And imagining how and by whom they would be told.

I have the impression that Jake and Mia see their bio-dad quite regularly and fairly often. It’s dropped into conversation ocassionally iirc.

FrancisCrawford I've genuinely tried to respond in a conciliatory way. Why stir it up even more?

I'd be happy to suggest an alternative thread title but given the (imho rather surprising strength of feeling about all of this) I am sure it would attract endless criticism. And if I don't suggest one, then I will be accused of criticising from afar without contributing. So I won't take up the offer thanks. But would be happy to do so in future if I am around (I am on and off Mumsnet at various times).

But - again in case anyone is still offended or in any doubt of our gratitude for them - thank you for these threads.

Anyway, I have to go and cut up a tree now.

DDD - you need to train your son. I have one of the same age who knows the timing of the live Archers broadcasts down to the last second (probably because he’s been listening since birth) - now I only have to utter the words “It’s The Archers” to silence him and his sister. It’s the only time they ever do as I ask so you can see where my parenting priorities lie

Yes, I also remember that Nic left the Bull early I think because Poppy was at Clarrie’s but was being sick and wanted her Mum? Part of the plot device of creating multiple potential suspects. However I was wondering last night whether Nic’s demise and deathbed confession were in the planning right from the start of the “who hit Matt?” storyline, or if they only decided later to add this twist when Becky Wright drew the short straw for Sepsis Awareness Week.

I do think that whatever she said is connected to Matt. I can’t imagine Nic would have driven away after hitting Matt, so my money is on her witnessing something but for some reason not telling the police.

But maybe it was just that she felt bad about being rude to Emma.

buxbaum
In family law the interests of the child are paramount so it won't be a done deal that the bio dad gets the children, especially as they're old enough to give their view on the matter. It would depend on all sorts of factors including the current relationship with the dad, their own opinions, issues like schooling and extended family support and their relationship with their half sibling.

I have never started a thread, but am tempted to start all threads with 'spoilers' in the title now. So there.

Lillian - I think the problem is that I still think of TA as a bit of guilty secret. My family know I do listen and are slightly bemused by it. (but I certainly don't catch every episode, so I don't think of myself as an addict).

I think they would be a bit surprised if I insisted on being shut away interrupted every evening at 7pm.

I believe my son did say "surely, you can catch up on that later", and I accepted that was true.

Thing is, Matt didn’t die and as far as we know is now living it up in Costa Rica, plus he’s been roundly exposed as a Bad’Un. So I don’t think anyone really cares any more who hit him.

What a sad storyline, but so important to improve awareness of sepsis. My Mum died of it and I am really pleased that they are covering the topic. Lots of tears shed here, poor Joe!

I presumed Nic's words were simple acknowledgement of her imminent fate, not a deathbed secret.

My family know I do listen and are slightly bemused by it. Do they know about your spreadshits? Though possibly they’d be less bemused by that, knowing that you are a lover of spreadshits in general

Francis Crawford are you my long-lost twin? Often on this, and other threads, I feel the urge to post a comment only to find that you have taken the words right out of my mouth, as it were, and beaten me to it! Hence my usual status as a lurker rather than a poster. 😉

I have never started a thread, but am tempted to start all threads with 'spoilers' in the title now. So there

erm ... oh-kaaaaay (as Pip would say)

Moving on. I thought Nic sounded strangely alert for someone going into multi-organ failure. Didn't move me to tears but she did convey the feeling of doom that is one of the symptoms of sepsis. Hate the thought of her children being motherless - hope they remain silent characters so I (selfishly) don't have to listen to their anguish.

I wasn’t particularly moved by Nic - more by William’s utter bemusement and failure to grasp what was happening. Entirely believable.

I’m upset by this plot twist. So cruel. My dad died of sepsis one year ago, but he was 82 FGS. There’s going to be a guilt fest, everyone who was harsh towards her in the last few weeks.

Gosh I haven't caught up completely at all with this thread. But (no offence to you Dadx3 and the other recent titular contributors) it's lovely to have you, Psuedo ,back. Thank you.

I have to keep reminding myself that it's not true. I do know that Sepsis is incredibly common. Also difficult to diagnose.

TA really do have it in for the elder generation. How many of them have taken on the parenting role in later life? - Jill, JD, Pat and now Clarrie.