The Archers Thread September 2015 - The One Where Helen Kicks Rob In The Balls?

[PseudoBadger]

Wishful thinking. I think she's in it for the long haul

All these random single old women and random single young men knocking around Ambridge. Maybe the first booking for the new village hall will be a Cougars Night?

The widows are hardly random though. Three of them are part of the major landowning families in Ambridge. They must be expected to get old.

I never say anything good about SOC - but I actually find the focus on elderly people rather satisfying, at least in its intentions. The execution (burnt biscuits) is sometimes rather off but I do like it when they take action or exercise their financial or emotional power.

They're all a bit doddery and frightened of the dark and incapable of living alone in their own homes though. Not a very feminist view of ageing. Ambridge needs a sheltered housing complex.

I agree with Gruach So some old people are frightened of the dark, only Chris actually, old age comes to us all you know 2rebecca Chris was a bit of a goer in the 6os.

And god save us from effing cougars purleeese don't put that idea in the SWs heads

Jill was frightened of staying on her own as well once Phil died. It seems to be a TA theme that all elderly women have to be unable to cope when their husbands die.

Apart from the ones that killed them!

Lilian did a bit of cougaring pre-Tiger though. Think it was after her facelift.

Didn't Kirsty or Brenda (forget which) nick one of Lil's young men (or vice versa)?

Title: But by the Grace goes Jill (to Lower Loxley)

Wasn't it Blessed James who was nicked temporarily by Brenda? Though I can't for the life of me recall who she nicked him from. Lil wasn't pleased though - probably though laTucker was a tad common for her son. And that seemed to be reflected later in the working relaionship of Lil and Bren. Mind you, they were both quite tacky - caught DTD in the bed of Hayley and Roy. B and J I mean. I've always thought of Halyley like my SIL - I'd imagine if she found anyone in her bed, she'd have to buy a new one before she ahd another night's sleep. And disinfect eh room proably. Of course things ahve moved on since for poor Hayley.

I am enjoying TA in a half-hearted way. I liked Hester's revelation - a good use of dosh IMO having Hester voiced.

Obvs Toby trouble will flout the 'exclusive' agreement. There has to be a reason for this strange detail, as others have said. He will of course go behind hsi brother's back and annoy him. Kind of find that whole story a bit yawn-worthy. But always something annoying in TA.

I liked Saturday's play too. It liked Godfrey's line about why did Grace's actor need equal pay when she hada husband with a good job. In Birmaingham no less.Kind of sums up how awful it was for women back then.

Sorry my spell check has gone off. No idea why. It just randomly pisses me off I fear.

Not just Blessed James, before him Brenda nicked Lil's toyboy Scott

www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thearchers/entries/723be6b7-4d33-3d36-ab92-affb9dba39f6

Still haven,t managed to find time to listen to Saturday,s play

I do know the difference between commas and apostrophes

The sodding ipad doesn,t though

YES, Scott. I do remember now. That was what upset Lil most of course. Brenda was a bit of a taker in her yoof.

So Helen is happy for Our Henry to be adopted by Knob now? Idiot.

Not at all. She was hoping her DM would give her a reason why it shouldn't happen.

Yes, I think she was quite relieved to find it could be a long and involved process, with lots of background checks - all those past things she's suddenly wondering about and what the truth really is.

The Jenny/John Tregorran murder plot is ridiculous, but I LOVED the whole discussion of the Cards on the Table plot and sub-plot. Accurate in every detail!

Aw thanks ppeatfruit.

I got the feeling Helen was looking forward to all the adoption investigations as much as we are.

Pat gushing about how wonderful it would be for them to be a real family unit obviously upset Helen. I suspect she was reflecting how, in a real family unit, husbands don't rape their wives.

I agree. She is hoping it takes so long it never happens. However, given that she now seems very certain she doesn't want him for H's dad and she doesn't want any date nights, what exactly is she waiting for??

They don't have kids. She has a place to go. She has a job. She doesn't love him. She can just walk out.

Usually it is money, or kids, nowhere to go or doubt/hope/ love that keep women in these sitiations i.e. they doubt their own version of events. But Helen seems very certain. And she doesn't seem infatuated with him anymore. So why stay? Other than a plot device.

The sws need to give us something to explain why she isn't walking now.

He's a wrong un and she knows it.

But was the quesiness pregnancy?

Dunno about the queasiness. But she almost certainly does still love him - or at least the idea of him (and them); you can't just switch off the emotion because you discover the person to be the devil incarnate.

Why doesn't she walk out? Hmm ... She can't quite believe things aren't as she imagined they would be. And she can't trust her own judgement because she's gouged out most of her brain and handed it to him on a plate over the past couple of years. Pride. Shame. Fear. No stomach for a fight.

It's so dreadful; she thought she'd found a Daddy for Henry and would never have wanted to deprive the child of that - but now she's realised that Rob is intent on taking Henry over ...

She so needs Kirstie ...

She can't leave due to shame. Leaving the marriage so soon, having spent so long building him up to everyone. She's ashamed and embarrassed (unjustified obviously). She doesn't think people will believe her. Pat reinforces that with her positivity about him (personality transplant for pat though!).