The Archers Thread September 2015 - The One Where Helen Kicks Rob In The Balls?

[PseudoBadger]

Wishful thinking. I think she's in it for the long haul

I think the whole bed wetting thing isn't meant to be Important, but was just to show that Helen was avoiding being in bed with Rob.

I like that the Archers has suddenly become subtle and no longer has to state the obvious all the time. Like David being off with Ruth- we are allowed to think why this was rather than hearing him tell Adam or whoever that he is upset because xyz.

'Now, Henry, stop wetting the bed!'
'OWWITE!'

Yes true Lilian and PlayingSolitaire

OWWITE! SeekEvery

PigletJohn used to drop in from time to time and ComposHat always used to make me larf, but haven't seen either for a while.

DadDadDad just seems to be constantly lurking and posts whenever his name is mentioned. Bit sinister if you ask me

Maybe Henry heard Rob raping his mother? Or heard her crying?

vix what a horrible thought

Vix that's what I thought.

I also thought that the bed wetting was to show that Helen is avoiding being in bed with Knob. She sounded very relieved when Tom arrived to save her from him joining her for a "nap".

Then she was all wheedling and begging for his advice later. I am struggling to "get" Helen atm

Knob will say that Henry is bedwetting because he is reacting against his mother giving time to the shop, and will generously offer to take over completely so that she doesn't have to worry her little head about it.

Henry was out having a sleepover at his Grandparents, and not collected until the next day (one good thing the SW did was make this clear). Although he won't always be out if things happen in future.

Knob was careful to send Henry to Pat'n'Tone rather than have him in the house while he had his evil way with Helen.

He might use the bed wetting as an opportunity to suggest Henry be sent away to school. 'Make a man of him and it didn't do me any harm, did it Darling?'

I think the bedwetting was both - summats up with Henry and Helen doesn't want to be in bed with Rob. She knew he was angry about that and the running off for the shop meeting hence pretending she wanted his opinion on the stock. He was so horrible about that making her beg for his esteemed opinion.

X posted there.
I felt Helen had leapt on the excuse of a restless Henry to sneak out of bed and keep away from Rob. I was puzzled about her asking him to review the stocklist but she had a counter argument for each of his niggles so it may have been some sort of ploy on her part to test his reaction.
If I show him this will he shoot it all down in flames?
Hmm. Yes he did, so has he done this to me before.......?

Yes, I think the bedwetting will become a way to keep Helen at home as the Poor Little Chap is obviously struggling with Mummy being so busy and looking so tired. 3 years before he can reasonably be sent to board, so that one could take a while.

And yes, I think H asked his opinion out of a combination of trying to flatter his bruised ego from the conversation with Tom ('Well, I can see I'm not needed here!'), an increased sense that she can't make decisions alone, and also (from a SW POV) because Tom had just made a comment along the lines of, if there's one thing you do know about, Helen, it's how to stock a village shop! Just to show that there isn't one thing she does know any more.

Ah! I had forgotten that Henry was with Pat & Tony. Quite relieved.

Hmm, I think it is all ambiguous. It will be interesting to see Tom's reaction (after that comment) if she goes back to him aying, "Rob says we have to stock the multipack fibre tablets". Maybe she wants to do that to see what Tom's reaction will be so she can then get him on her side? Or maybe she really is a surrendered wife?

While I'm here, I'd just like to say that I'm very much looking forward to hearing Neil's meeting with Charlie on Friday and seeing my prediction of J Elliott buying up the village come true....

On a much much lighter note, did anyone else laugh at Lily drawing a picture for Jill to welcome her to the house, presumably because Jill's skills at interpreting mime aren't too good

Lurking. Stalking. Tomayto. Tomarto.

RocknRoll - that was hilarious. Also, Lily's a bloody teenager, not 5!

The drawing a picture for Granny was odd. Unless this is leading to Lily disappearing to observe common people at art school ...

Been thinking about Henry a bit more today.

I do hope it's not because Rob has been horrible to Henry out of Helen's (and our) earshot.

A child abuse storyline would be so painful it's just about the only thing I can imagine that could ever put me off TA.

Oh god, Higher Ed porn! Mwahahahahahhahaha! PPE at Oxford. In 30 years Phoebe will be PM or Chancellor of the Exchequer....

Ok, either there is no Joseph, or else Joseph is going to be some kid from ten council estate which means rob says Henry has to go elsewhere, or be HE'd.

Please don't use Peggy's money to send Henry to boarding school, Helen.

There is a Joseph and Rob will show even more of his evil side and grab the urchin by the collar at home time and whisper threatening horribleness to him.. To which listeners will Boo and gasp and Helen will simper her love and gratitude to rob to demonstrate to all and sunder that she is truly well within his clutches and we are all doomed to listen to this never ending storyline with no end in sight!! Boo!! Rob needs to get his come uppance!!