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Tradesman just made me cry

379 replies

Fluffyelephant · 10/10/2024 10:16

I know it’s probably silly to be so upset but I’m really shaken up.

Having a nightmare with our house renovation. People cancelling, not showing up.

Finally had a guy in today (recommended by another tradesman). Long story short I was in the room next to where he was working and could hear him getting angrier and angrier in there: ‘FFS!’ every few minutes and slamming things more and more aggressively.

Eventually heard him say to himself ‘that’s it I’m finished’ and he started moving his tools. I went in, job was about 60% done and he was so angry. Like “I’m finished. Not doing anymore. People effing changing the job. Changing the date. Wasting my time. This b&q stuff you’ve got is shit.” It was so horrible. Then he stormed out. I told my partner what had happened and started crying so my DP ran out to the van outside and I was shouting ‘Don’t! Dont!’ The guy threatens him and then drives away.

Agh. Absolutely horrible. Really shaken up. Just feel like I’m cursed with this renovation. Feel like it was my fault for not making the details of the job clearer.

Not sure what the point of this post is. Just wondering if anyone else has ever experienced similar. And if so how do you keep it together?!

OP posts:
Zuk · 13/10/2024 18:29

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 11:44

He hasn’t charged you, so just get someone else to do the job. Why are you stating that he ‘made you cry’ and then painting your partner as some kind of rescuer? You’re not a child. You’re not happy with his service, so get someone else in to do it and get on with your life.

You missed the issue. A man being paid to do a job behaved aggressively in a woman's home, intimidating her and making her feel upset with his confrontational, aggressive behaviour.

I thought the apologists for this kind of male behaviour were done with this thread, but evidently not.

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 18:59

Zuk · 13/10/2024 18:29

You missed the issue. A man being paid to do a job behaved aggressively in a woman's home, intimidating her and making her feel upset with his confrontational, aggressive behaviour.

I thought the apologists for this kind of male behaviour were done with this thread, but evidently not.

He didn’t direct his anger at her - he swore and walked off. Obviously this is unacceptable behaviour, but saying that he ‘made her cry’ sounds so pathetic for a grown woman.

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 19:00

Thisandthat999 · 13/10/2024 14:54

Ugh. You sound cold.
Got your daily kick from being horrible to someone on Mumsnet I hope?!

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 19:02

grannypants22 · 13/10/2024 13:44

Are you always this passive if a stranger shouts aggressively at you? That's concerning if so.

I work in a job where we have to learn not to take it personally. Passive or assertive? I’ve given a solution that takes the drama out of the situation.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 13/10/2024 19:07

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

It's called being a prick.

outdamnedspots · 13/10/2024 19:17

I think you've had a really rough time on here, OP. I don't know what some posters are thinking 🤷🏼‍♀️

You were in the right. The workman was totally unprofessional, and I'd hate a man kicking off like that in my home.

He should have researched the job better.

outdamnedspots · 13/10/2024 19:19

It doesn't matter that he didn't threaten you directly. Slamming things around and shouting 'FFS' is quite aggressive enough.

And there's nothing wrong with B&Q flooring. We have B&Q tiles in our bathroom and they look fab.

Thisandthat999 · 13/10/2024 19:40

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 13/10/2024 19:07

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

It's called being a prick.

I love this, I’m with you on this!
Absolute prick!

Dotto · 13/10/2024 20:07

Fuckwit.

CrayonCritic5 · 13/10/2024 20:44

You’re not alone. I’m single and I find dealing with them so so hard. Occasionally my dad helps deal with them. They never respect my wishes / follow my directions, ever. Just do it the easiest way and then expect the same payment. More experience helps, I’m slowly gathering the tools to deal with them. And keep exploring different people until you find the right ones.

Rocketmanjan · 13/10/2024 20:56

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 18:59

He didn’t direct his anger at her - he swore and walked off. Obviously this is unacceptable behaviour, but saying that he ‘made her cry’ sounds so pathetic for a grown woman.

But how could you not understand that witnessing that type of anger right next door to you and in your own home is pretty terrifying? If the tradie is capable of directing his anger in that manner, he could absolutely be liable to direct that anger and abuse towards people. Also, they could very obviously retaliate as they now know your address….

If you don’t believe me, I’ll tell you of an an incident where a friend got attacked in her own home by an angry tradie. What started with the man getting angry with himself, turned into him abusing my friend, punching and throwing a hammer at her. Thank god some neighbours heard and went to help. OP has every right to be scared, your comments about her overreacting are incredibly rude.

Fluffyelephant · 13/10/2024 21:27

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 18:59

He didn’t direct his anger at her - he swore and walked off. Obviously this is unacceptable behaviour, but saying that he ‘made her cry’ sounds so pathetic for a grown woman.

What can I say? A MN thread title of 'Tradesman just aggressively swore, had a go at me and walked out on job and because of the terrible year I'm having of grieving a parent, work stress and renovation nightmares I shed a few tears in my shock and frustration' just didn't have the same ring to it.

And I think grown women kicking other women when they're down because you take issue with the wording they've used on MN is pathetic. ✌

OP posts:
RareTulipsDisplay · 13/10/2024 21:29

I can completely sympathise. I had a similar but more complicated experience recently. My friend had damaged her knee and asked me for my gardener's details. He started to go to help her once a fortnight, effectively taking one of my weekly slots. As things started growing faster, I asked him to go back to once a week as I was struggling to keep on top of it with my age and arthritis.

After asking a second time he said he was coming round for a final visit. I had always had a great relationship with him and he had been very helpful and friendly. However, when he turned up for his 'final visit' I went out to pay him but also to find out what had happened to cause this. He launched into a personal verbal attack, literally a character assassination, telling me that I was a dreadful person, I was selfish, jealous, nasty and an awful friend, among other things. He was shouting at me on my own driveway and I hurried inside, shocked and shaking. I didn't go out for a week as I felt so anxious. I live alone as I am a widow and I'm in my seventies.

After some reflection I realised that my so called 'friend ' was the cause of this. The things he said to me could only have come from her. I had driven her to several hospital appointments, collected medical notes from her doctors, lent her a walking stick, checked on her and helped her while she was struggling with her bad knee. I can't bring myself to speak to her at all. The shock of his outburst caused me a great amount of stress and upset so I really understand OP's reaction to her experience.

CrayonCritic5 · 13/10/2024 21:41

RareTulipsDisplay · 13/10/2024 21:29

I can completely sympathise. I had a similar but more complicated experience recently. My friend had damaged her knee and asked me for my gardener's details. He started to go to help her once a fortnight, effectively taking one of my weekly slots. As things started growing faster, I asked him to go back to once a week as I was struggling to keep on top of it with my age and arthritis.

After asking a second time he said he was coming round for a final visit. I had always had a great relationship with him and he had been very helpful and friendly. However, when he turned up for his 'final visit' I went out to pay him but also to find out what had happened to cause this. He launched into a personal verbal attack, literally a character assassination, telling me that I was a dreadful person, I was selfish, jealous, nasty and an awful friend, among other things. He was shouting at me on my own driveway and I hurried inside, shocked and shaking. I didn't go out for a week as I felt so anxious. I live alone as I am a widow and I'm in my seventies.

After some reflection I realised that my so called 'friend ' was the cause of this. The things he said to me could only have come from her. I had driven her to several hospital appointments, collected medical notes from her doctors, lent her a walking stick, checked on her and helped her while she was struggling with her bad knee. I can't bring myself to speak to her at all. The shock of his outburst caused me a great amount of stress and upset so I really understand OP's reaction to her experience.

Oh gosh so sorry. I’ve only had this happen once when someone had said untrue things about me to others and it was highly stressful. It’s shocking what some people will believe without checking the facts.

Zuk · 13/10/2024 21:59

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 18:59

He didn’t direct his anger at her - he swore and walked off. Obviously this is unacceptable behaviour, but saying that he ‘made her cry’ sounds so pathetic for a grown woman.

No he didn't. This is what happened:

*I was in the room next to where he was working and could hear him getting angrier and angrier in there: ‘FFS!’ every few minutes and slamming things more and more aggressively.

Eventually heard him say to himself ‘that’s it I’m finished’ and he started moving his tools. I went in, job was about 60% done and he was so angry. Like “I’m finished. Not doing anymore. People effing changing the job. Changing the date. Wasting my time. This b&q stuff you’ve got is shit.” It was so horrible. Then he stormed out. I told my partner what had happened and started crying so my DP ran out to the van outside and I was shouting ‘Don’t! Dont!’ The guy threatens him and then drives away*

'Swore and walked off' is not what happened at all, as you well know.

Crying is not pathetic. What IS pathetic is making stuff up so you can blame a woman for a man's behaviour. Either you're the kind of man who does this, or you're a woman with a really, really low bar for male behaviour.

Zuk · 13/10/2024 22:02

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 19:00

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

Your posts are the opposite of rational.

'Cry me a river'? Oh dear 😂

Miniopolis · 13/10/2024 22:15

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 19:00

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

Being rational, I don’t think you’re worth crying a river over.

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:20

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 13/10/2024 19:07

It’s called being rational. Cry me a river.

It's called being a prick.

You must be gen Z or A. Grow up please!

Zuk · 14/10/2024 01:27

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:20

You must be gen Z or A. Grow up please!

What's the point of even posting this? You're ridiculous.

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:28

Is this site dominated by Americans maybe? Too many people dramatise such trivial situations. Aren’t there bigger things to worry about? Should we cry at anything? Sympathy with the OP and hope you get your floor done without any swearing. I need to sleep now since I’ve got more important matters to deal with tomorrow. Serious health appointments followed by stressful work conditions, none of which I can control. Count your blessings!

Zuk · 14/10/2024 01:33

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:28

Is this site dominated by Americans maybe? Too many people dramatise such trivial situations. Aren’t there bigger things to worry about? Should we cry at anything? Sympathy with the OP and hope you get your floor done without any swearing. I need to sleep now since I’ve got more important matters to deal with tomorrow. Serious health appointments followed by stressful work conditions, none of which I can control. Count your blessings!

This wasn't a trivial situation. Male aggression around women never is. You are hell bent on excusing the man's behaviour and blaming the OP for being upset by it.

Hope your appointment goes well.

Rocketmanjan · 14/10/2024 01:39

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:28

Is this site dominated by Americans maybe? Too many people dramatise such trivial situations. Aren’t there bigger things to worry about? Should we cry at anything? Sympathy with the OP and hope you get your floor done without any swearing. I need to sleep now since I’ve got more important matters to deal with tomorrow. Serious health appointments followed by stressful work conditions, none of which I can control. Count your blessings!

Telling others to “count their blessings” whilst posting inflammatory and rude comments…. Make it make sense 🤣

A bit of empathy would go a long way, stop excusing crap behaviour please.

Hardly a “trivial situation” either, would you be okay if this violent behaviour escalated, meaning you got hurt? Surely you know that violence (in any way) forms the foundations of abuse further down the line…..

rainfallpurevividcat · 14/10/2024 02:33

TicklishMintDuck · 13/10/2024 12:43

To be fair you didn’t add the detail to your post, just that it’s a small job that would only take an hour and you’d be overpaying.

Yes she did. Read the OP properly next time.

Miniopolis · 14/10/2024 03:11

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 01:28

Is this site dominated by Americans maybe? Too many people dramatise such trivial situations. Aren’t there bigger things to worry about? Should we cry at anything? Sympathy with the OP and hope you get your floor done without any swearing. I need to sleep now since I’ve got more important matters to deal with tomorrow. Serious health appointments followed by stressful work conditions, none of which I can control. Count your blessings!

Things we can control are how we treat other people.

I do hope your appointment goes well, however.

TicklishMintDuck · 14/10/2024 17:44

Miniopolis · 14/10/2024 03:11

Things we can control are how we treat other people.

I do hope your appointment goes well, however.

We can, but unfortunately we can’t control how others behave.