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school overstepping ?

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cax · 27/06/2024 20:19

So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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AllsAllie · 27/06/2024 21:19

Totally normal! And secondary school teachers visit primary to discuss year 6 students transition.

Differentstarts · 27/06/2024 21:19

Your daughter is growing up. This is school it's not like a nursery where your told how many times they pooped and what they ate. It's time to take a step back.

Babyshambles90 · 27/06/2024 21:23

Yeah go for it, pop in a complaint. That’ll be a great way to start your relationship with your child’s new school. You’re sure to get the best out of them after that.

Lemonandlime123 · 27/06/2024 21:25

This is a completely normal procedure.

Wheresyourvote · 27/06/2024 21:25

Contrary to it seems practically everyone else on this thread, I agree op. I can’t exactly pinpoint why I would want to know, but I would want to know.

I don’t remember this happening with either of my 2 children when they started at school (but then maybe I just never found out!)

All this ‘they’re growing up, let go, they’re in school now’ rubbish… They’re 4/5 years old ffs.

EarthlyNightshade · 27/06/2024 21:28

Needmorelego · 27/06/2024 20:26

By the way....a lot of what goes on at primary school you don't hear about until it's happened.
Ask your child what they did at school -
"dunno"
"can't remember"
"stuff"
Six weeks later you get the newsletter and you discover they had a performance from a local theatre group, a man with some snakes visit, Year 6 helped Reception with their Christmas songs and Prince William visited the new greenhouse.
😂😂😂

Even my hard-to-impress totally reticent children would have mentioned the man with the snakes!

Procrastinates · 27/06/2024 21:28

I can’t exactly pinpoint why I would want to know, but I would want to know.

The fact you can't pinpoint why you'd want to know surely shows you how bonkers it is? You want to know but can't think of any reason why other than because you want to? It's completely illogical.

YouMustBeHappyNow · 27/06/2024 21:30

teacher45646 · 27/06/2024 20:22

This is normal procedure for schools and I have never heard of them informing parents beforehand.

Ex school admin. We would always let the parents know the Reception teacher would be visiting the child in nursery, but not the date and time of the visit.

Timeturnerplease · 27/06/2024 21:30

On the plus side, if you do make a complaint the school will at least know straight away that you’re that parent.

Toomuchsuntoday · 27/06/2024 21:30

Now that so many people have explained that such visits are completely normal, I really do not understand why you are still refusing to see that there has been absolutely no overstepping. The next 14 years are going to be very hard work for you if you keep up this attitude.

Needmorelego · 27/06/2024 21:31

@EarthlyNightshade yes but only 2 months after it happened 😂😂🪱

DGPP · 27/06/2024 21:31

You’re overreacting. And you’re going to have a lot to learn once they start school

EarthlyNightshade · 27/06/2024 21:31

Did you get any general settling in information? We got a load of stuff from school and it included "visiting children in nursery setting where possible".

How did you find out if neither the school nor nursery told you?

MarlieJae · 27/06/2024 21:31

RawBloomers · 27/06/2024 21:09

I wouldn’t call it over reach so much as poor communication. YANBU to think the nursery should keep you informed of outside visitors or visits of any sort. Children that young are often unreliable narrators and communication from their nursery or school outlining changes from regular routine are important, especially when they are around an big life event for the child (such as moving settings).

However, you should probably get used to it. In my experience, child care settings and especially primary schools are atrocious at communication with parents. Good communication (presumably outside the narrow confines of the classroom itself) does not seem to figure in training and few school staff, even at senior levels, recognize the role of wider communication skills and strategies in organizational success. I would blame this on the current crisis in education, which does put ridiculous stress on staff, but it’s always been the case.

No, lack of communication, really isn’t/hasn't always been the case in schools I have led or those I support now.

I worked damned hard to make sure all communication conveyed the ethos of the school, was timely, accurate and informative. With a large number of EAL ( new to English) families I included photographs, signs, pictures and links to video clips. We added translate facilities to the website and sought feedback from parents about appropriate messenging systems.
We communicated not only with parents but included wider agencies and the community.
My strategy for communication was clear and impacted very positively building on my honours degree, Postgrad in Communication, Leadership and Change. My business studies qualification and National Professional Qualification for Headship also included communication strategies as a tool for organisational success.
Being the new headteacher to a school judged as inadequate meant changing the stigma attached, communication with all stakeholders, including the media was vital.

Your experience might be a poor one. My experience not so.

MotherJessAndKittens · 27/06/2024 21:31

It's normal once your child has been allocated a place for the transition teacher to visit nursery. Later there will be school visits which you will be informed about.

HMW1906 · 27/06/2024 21:33

You’re overreacting. You’re not going to get off to a good start with the school if you’re already complaining about something so ridiculous. 🙄

PurpleFlower1983 · 27/06/2024 21:35

This is standard practice for children who do not attend the school nursery and for schools where they have no nursery. It’s important for transition. Kindly, you are overreacting.

JudgeJ · 27/06/2024 21:36

Wheresyourvote · 27/06/2024 21:25

Contrary to it seems practically everyone else on this thread, I agree op. I can’t exactly pinpoint why I would want to know, but I would want to know.

I don’t remember this happening with either of my 2 children when they started at school (but then maybe I just never found out!)

All this ‘they’re growing up, let go, they’re in school now’ rubbish… They’re 4/5 years old ffs.

It is the start of loosening the apron strings though, in a couple of years time when asked what she did in school the answer will probably be 'Nowt' or whatever the local vernacular maybe for that sentiment.

damebarbaracartlandsbiggestfan · 27/06/2024 21:37

No idea why posters are treating you as if you're overreacting. I would expect a courtesy email/text/call to notify me about transition visit - she is your child! I was notified when this happened when my DD transitioned. I'm not sure I'd complain, but yes - I think it's a little bit poor if schools don't notify - unless it's a pre-school attached to the school.
I also am surprised at the people asking you what you expect for the next x years. We get constant texts and slips in bags from our primary about all sorts.

crumblingschools · 27/06/2024 21:37

@Needmorelego DS’s school had a man visit with reptiles. Parents hadn’t been told and I did my usual ‘have a good day chat’. DS did his usual ‘it was okay’. Later on I happened to see a friend (who had a child in the same class as DS) post in FB ‘Wow, DD had a snake draped round her neck today at school, rather her than me!’
I went up to DS and had the following conversation:
Me: DS did anything different happen today at school
DS: No
Me: No visitors?
DS: No
Me: Was there perhaps a snake in your class?
DS: Oh yeah, I had a tarantula on my hand

Just a usual day then DS 😂

Topseyt123 · 27/06/2024 21:37

Absolutely standard procedure. Totally ridiculous to get het up over it and even more ridiculous to be considering making a complaint.

What a great way to get off on a good footing.

EarthlyNightshade · 27/06/2024 21:37

Needmorelego · 27/06/2024 21:31

@EarthlyNightshade yes but only 2 months after it happened 😂😂🪱

A bird man came in once to talk about sport.
Found out in the newsletter a week later that Eddie the Eagle had been in!

Lokshen · 27/06/2024 21:38

Entirely normal, and they'll probably do a home visit too

Leeds2 · 27/06/2024 21:39

Going against the grain here, I too would've liked to have know about this in advance! I can completely accept that there is no valid reason for me to have known, that it is just me being nosy and I wouldn't dream of making any form of complaint about it.
I expect the reason is that the teacher wants to see the children behaving as they usually do, in their everyday environment, without having been coached to "perform" by their parents, which I expect might happen in some cases.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 27/06/2024 21:40

Peforming? It isn't some kind of test....I think you're overthinking it.

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