school overstepping ?

[cax]

So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

@cax have you spoken to school SENDCo yet? Does your DC have an EHCP? The SENDCo will possibly also contact the nursery.

It definitely was being used as recently as that, as that is when I was looking into it for both my child and I. It was only after that, that I found out that it's very controversial, and was shocked as it was still being used by the NHS. But I wasn't surprised, as in my experience, the NHS are very slow to update terminology, and practice's in many different areas.

I can still remember my R teacher visiting my home in 1990. I was really proud because she gave me a wordless picture book and I asked for one with words and I read to her from a little yellow book. It’s ingrained in my mind, so it’s not unusual or new

Just out of interest, will you expect the school to ring you if they have a supply teacher, or if they are taught by the TA or there is an interview candidate in their class for half an hr?

Very normal and nursery wouldn't necessarily mention it in advance. You may get a home visit too

No, school has not overstepped the mark. This is common practice as part of the transition process. It happens again when they transfer to high school. It is good practice to ensure your child’s transition to their new setting is as smooth as possible and as it is professional setting to professional setting, parents are not involved.

Reading comments again, if your child has an EHCP, an Action for Inclusion meeting (or something similar) should have been organised between nursery, school, LA EYFS personnel and parents. Even if your child hasn’t got to the stage of applying for EHCP but has diagnosed SEN, this meeting is important so school is prepared and ready to meet your child’s needs. You MUST be invited to this meeting. This is quite different to the informal meeting between nursery + school, which is handover of any paperwork and where teacher/TA will simply introduce themselves to your child.

It wasn't used 4 years ago for my son. CYPS and the paediatrician even said he would have formally been diagnosed with Aspergers (just to better explain his diagnosis to me) but it now comes under ASD so it's ASD that is on his medical records.

I accept that schools do this to help them help a child start school, but parents should be made aware. I can understand and appreciate OP's surprise, which effectively comes down to bad comms.

There is no reason why a school can't put this practice in their admissions guide or remind parents in correspondence before this time.

If pretty much everyone is telling you this is ok, there comes a point that you have to accept you are the one in the wrong rather than doubling down.
It's totally standard and schools haven't got time to contact 30 parents to ask for permission they don't need. They are overloaded enough as it is. You really are being unreasonable here and schools will
have transition arrangements documented in policies- likely on their websites.
Children not at Nursery get Home visits. The school has done nothing wrong and you need to get over yourself.

Op is it a Montessori school❓❓❓❓❓❓❓

Schools do make parents aware. This information is in policies and often shared with parents at meetings. If parents get a new starter guide - it will be mentioned in there. Or it is on websites which parents are excepted to look at for themselves. That's the point of them. But this is a standing joke in schools. A staggering number of parents don't read letters or
App messages and would rarely, if ever, look at the website.

You asked the same question this morning. Why would you ask a second time? This is completely normal in the vast majority of state schools? How would knowing it was a Montessori school change any part of this?

Exactly.

This is perfectly usual, even if it feels you've been excluded.

Is perfectly normal.
In some areas they do home visits. Can't imagine how you'd react to that.

I'm guessing OP would be fine with it because presumably she'd have been informed about that in advance. Which is what this thread is all about, not the actual visiting...

Oh thank God. 1 other person who gets the actual point.

For those at the back not paying attention, visits are fine. Doing it without parental consent and notification is not. <Awaits 20 posts 'yeah but no but nursery will have all kinds of cleaners etc who you don't know >

@Janiie by signing up to a state primary school you presumably agreed to everything the state primary does.
Don't like it? Go private then.

@Janiie so if the teacher visiting is just discussing the children with the adults in the nursery would you need the parent’s consent?

And chances are under both T&C of nursery and policies of school you will have agreed to the transition process used by both nursery and school

It never happened with mine as it was 2021 and visits weren’t happening still because of Covid. I did have a phone call with the teacher though. They want to get an idea of what your child is like, their needs etc. Every school is different but we were given Access to Tapestry a few months before they started school. They uploaded videos of the classroom and a video introductions themselves so we could show our children and talk to them about the big change that’s about to happen. We were told we could message at any time and ask any questions. Their first few weeks of school is all about finding out where each child is at so they can implement any extra help if needed. Being able to see them in their current setting and being able to talk with their Childcare Provider will help them massively before your child starts school. I have no idea if they should have mentioned it but honestly, it’s in your child’s best interests.

Yes, sorry @Janiie, I've been watching you flounder for a while now just quietly hoping people would start to remember what the point of the OP was but it's sort of run away with itself.

I fear there's no repairing it now.

But as many have said if it is part of their transition policy and in T&C or policies then they won’t have to give notice or get your consent, as they would already have that when you signed up for nursery/school

It’s part of the transition process…

nothing to be worried about…our school visits children in private nurseries. Teachers also do home visits. Think perhaps the nursery could have mentioned it, but maybe they want to see a child in their ‘natural’ state.

Children in school will be meeting their new teachers this week. Parents are told after the event, who their child’s teacher will be,( by letter).