SATS 2016

[FeckinCrutches]

We got our results today, still trying to decipher raw/scaled score. DD got EXS for everything, which is great, but it's very hard not knowing what she would have got on the old system!

Please may I put in a request for all of you with children who did well to talk to your children about not boasting / 'innocently asking' others at school what scores they got? Especially children that they know are on lower tables?

As stated earlier, my DD got 100, 97 and 96. We are delighted with that, and have told her we are very proud. As a result she is currently feeling proud and happy too. I am just hoping that feeling lasts for her once she goes back in to school on Monday.

Teen I hope her feelings of being proud last.
I was pleased that we got the results on the reports and that they weren't handed out in school.

I suspect my son is average compared to his class mates so he wont say anything! Mine failed the 11 plus after all.

I've noticed the use of "pass" and "fail" a lot on this thread.

It concerns me that there are ten year old kids who may now feel like academic failures, when actually they're pretty much average kids.

I imagine kids not so much being bothered with other children's scores, but asking "Did you pass or fail your SATs?"

I had heard one teacher use the term "secondary ready". I asked my DDs teacher not to use this phrase with here, as the last thing I need is a hyperventilating DD thinking she's not ready for high school. Her teacher laughed, and said of corse he wouldn't say that because of course she has to move on.

And to the previous poster who said these SATs are raising standards, I have to disagree.

Please may I put in a request for all of you with children who did well to talk to your children about not boasting / 'innocently asking' others at school what scores they got? Especially children that they know are on lower tables?

Teen, this is something that I have always drilled into dd from a young age - that test results are private and don't need to be compared or discussed.

Thank you broken . Unfortunately there are a number of kids in DDs class who have shown in the past they have no problem with pointing out where DD falls short ...

I hadn't asked DD about her peers (and she doesn't seem interested in them either) but she did tell me her best friend got 99 in all 3 and was absolutely devastated. She was mainly worried that the other children would tease her for being stupid .

Luckily DD just told her it didn't matter, and that the tests were much harder this year.

I know that our lot will start asking on their instagram chat groups...I keep checking

Thank you broken . Unfortunately there are a number of kids in DDs class who have shown in the past they have no problem with pointing out where DD falls short ...

Perhaps you should be pointing out to your dd where these kids fall short on tact and empathy.

My dd is lucky that she finds academic tests easy. I am delighted that she is doing well in maths and English but have always made it very clear to her that I consider good social skills - including kindness and sensitivity to others - to be far more important than scores on a test. I would be sad and ashamed if dd was boasting to friends about her results, or making others feel that they hadn't done well. Thankfully, DD seems to understand that boasting is reserved strictly for the audience of proud parents and grandparents.

Ego That's why I think parents should encourage their kids to think of the consequences of comparing.

It has taken a massive effort by the school, ourselves and DD to give our DD confidence this year. She does not need the clever but emotionally uncaring children telling her she has 'failed' or that she 'only' scored 96 or whatever.

I will be briefing my DD to say 'Mum and Dad said I have done really well and they are very proud of me' if asked.

KingscoteStaff the teacher did tell me she got 100% on it. I don't know any of the rest of her scores but she said it was worth me knowing

And I haven't told any of the other parents (

Sorry to go on about this, but I am still confused.

Feckin posted an extract of her DD's results (on page 1 of this thread) which also included an explanation of the grades available for teacher assessments. This stated that for Writing the possible grades were EXS, GDS and WTS, which I understand and no problem there. But for Reading and Maths the possible grades were EXS and HNM. This would appear to be the approach that DS's school has adopted. So are there different approaches schools can take or have some schools interpreted it incorrectly?

I have been in contact with DS's teacher (as we are working together on a report on a separate matter) so I asked her to clarify DS's maths grade under teacher assessment. Her response was that if the GDS code was available for Maths she would have awarded it for DS.

I am not only looking at this from a parent's point of view but also as a Governor. I want to make sure our school has interpreted the grading requirements correctly.

Our school has interpreted it to say that you cannot "officially" get GDS except on the writing, Ineed. So according to the SATS results, dd was EXS in the other areas.

However, the teacher assessments in our end of year reports did allow children to get GDS in other areas, so she has two separate assessments for the same subject. It's all very confusing!

Ego we received a copy of that leaflet with our SATS and teacher assessment results. Interesting how it only explains the grading for Writing. I understand that for schools this is the most important grading as it is the figure that is included with school's reported figures together with the SATS results for Maths and Reading.

The teacher assessments we received were for Maths, Writing, Reading and Science. We didn't get a school report this term as we got that last term . So we simply got a table with EXS against each of the above subjects with no discussion about the work DS had done in the year.

If 100 is the expected standard, then surely any child who scores 101 or above has 'exceeded' the expected standard.

And in his end of year report (which we got last term) DS got GDS in Maths.

I have shown DS the email from his teacher stating that he did get GDS in Maths. So he is happy. What slightly concerns me is what assessment will be passed to his new school. He is going to an independent school and they said they do take into account SATS and primary school reports as part of their assessment procedure.

According to what I have heard from DDs school, who were moderated for writing, only children who are writing at an equivalent of an old level 6 are classed as exceeding. A 5A is now only expected!

Re teacher assessments, from www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-2-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara/section-9-teacher-assessment

Interim framework for KS2 English writing
For KS2 English writing, teacher assessment is the primary outcome used for accountability. Teachers must refer to the interim framework when making their teacher assessment judgement. The framework contains 3 standards:

working towards the expected standard
working at the expected standard
working at greater depth within the expected standard
Pupils will be grouped into 4 categories for accountability; the 3 categories above plus an additional category for those pupils that do not meet the ‘working towards’ standard.

Interim frameworks for KS2 English reading, mathematics and science
For KS2 English reading, mathematics and science, where TA is not used for formal accountability, the framework contains one standard: working at the expected standard. Pupils will be grouped into 2 categories; the ‘working at the expected standard’ category plus an additional category for those pupils that do not meet that standard.

So 3 options for writing; only expected or below for the others.

Nor does it mention that this current cohort of children have only had 2 years of a 4 year ks2 curriculum, Ego. And that there's no way that you could possibly cover the gaps from years 3 and 4 and teach all the new 5 and 6 content thoroughly enough. Particularly in maths and science IMO.

Ineedaholidaynow - assessments for what, Y7 streaming? Presumably he has already secured the independent school place?