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"punishment" in year 1

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makemineaginandtonic · 28/09/2010 17:09

DD is not settling into Yr1 particularly well and especially dislikes "carpet time" because it's boring and her bum goes numb. Today she was talking (actually reciting a poem from a book she borrowed from school!) during carpet time and as a result was delayed going out to play time and had to spend extra time on the carpet.

I really don't agree with "punishments" such as this, especially when it is keeping her from a physical activity which might actually calm her down and make it easier to sit still!

What other experiences of "punishments" are out there?

should I talk to the teacher and tell her what I think?

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clemetteattlee · 28/09/2010 22:07

Your daughter has been behaving like this for a year and you are STILL blaming the school?

Portofino · 28/09/2010 22:08

She changed school!

clemetteattlee · 28/09/2010 22:10

Blame one school, change school, blame the next school... sigh.

choccyp1g · 28/09/2010 22:10

"Hamlet, which was written by Shakespeare" a bit like "The Bible, a book about Christianity".
However, I still don't see the relevance of the quote...WHO protests too much? about what?

loopyloops · 28/09/2010 22:12

might be useful, OP

TheFallenMadonna · 28/09/2010 22:12

To be fair to the OP, it would seem that the sanctions aren't actually working with her DD, so I would also being asking if there was an alternative I think. I'm not sure not doing nothing would work either though.

Whocantakeasunrise · 28/09/2010 22:12

I'm sure this is why that lad in youngest boarders on telly the other night, blamed all his problems on having to spend 3rd of the lesson on carpet time.

Carpet time seems to be the bain of so many lives!!!

Portofino · 28/09/2010 22:12

WE are protesting too much, by not agreeing with her. This must surely be a windup? But the posts over that period of time....sadly says to me that we have Ostrich Syndrome going on. That mixed with inherent smugness is probably a terminal condition.

ColdComfortFarm · 28/09/2010 22:14

To be serious (sorry) either the OP's daughter has some kind of problem with impulsiveness and inappropriate behaviour which needs help, perhaps with the help of the SENCO, or she needs to be told in no undertain terms that she must be quiet when her teacher is talking. If it is the former, then I can understand why the OP is putting her fingers in her ears and shouting 'la la la I can't hear you'. It's a hard thing to even think about.

Portofino · 28/09/2010 22:15

I'm 42 but enjoy a bit of carpet time once in a while....when dd is firmly asleep. I most certainly pay attention, and would never dream of reciting poetry. It would.... um ....put other people off! Blush

scruffymuff · 28/09/2010 22:15

It actually sounds the child has some worrinying behaviour problems and the OP is in denial about this- maybe she does have ADHD?

Greensleeves · 28/09/2010 22:15

Feenie/loopy, I don't have a problem with teachers out here IRL. I love my boys' teachers. In fact ds1 got his first ever detention in the first week of Y3 and I backed the teacher to the hilt - because she was right, and I want him to be a civilised human being, not a spoilt brat

it's some of the teachers on MN I think are sometimes spiteful and unkind to parents and about children.

others, like Hulababy and TheFallenMadonna and I'm sure others, are lovely and often give very good, fair and balanced advice.

Feenie · 28/09/2010 22:17

No one is being spiteful and unkind, Greensleeves, it's just another excuse for you to teacher bash unnecessarily.

Greensleeves · 28/09/2010 22:19

I disagree

Goblinchild · 28/09/2010 22:27

Let's agree to differ.
So much more peaceful that way.

loopyloops · 28/09/2010 22:41

Will you two shut up and sit nicely on that carpet please?

Lovely.

Now, back to AA Milne...

Portofino · 28/09/2010 22:49

Wherever I am, there's always Pooh,
There's always Pooh and Me.
Whatever I do, he wants to do,
"Where are you going today?" says Pooh:
"Well, that's very odd 'cos I was too.
Let's go together," says Pooh, says he.
"Let's go together," says Pooh.

"What's twice eleven?" I said to Pooh.
("Twice what?" said Pooh to Me.)
"I think it ought to be twenty-two."
"Just what I think myself," said Pooh.
"It wasn't an easy sum to do,
But that's what it is," said Pooh, said he.
"That's what it is," said Pooh.

"Let's look for dragons," I said to Pooh.
"Yes, let's," said Pooh to Me.
We crossed the river and found a few-
"Yes, those are dragons all right," said Pooh.
"As soon as I saw their beaks I knew.
That's what they are," said Pooh, said he.
"That's what they are," said Pooh.

"Let's frighten the dragons," I said to Pooh.
"That's right," said Pooh to Me.
"I'm not afraid," I said to Pooh,
And I held his paw and I shouted "Shoo!
Silly old dragons!"- and off they flew.

"I wasn't afraid," said Pooh, said he,
"I'm never afraid with you."

So wherever I am, there's always Pooh,
There's always Pooh and Me.
"What would I do?" I said to Pooh,
"If it wasn't for you," and Pooh said: "True,
It isn't much fun for One, but Two,
Can stick together, says Pooh, says he. "That's how it is," says Pooh.

See - poetry is always worth disrupting the class for!

2shoes · 28/09/2010 22:52

the op is barking
a child missing a few moments of play for being disruptive in class and mummy says it is OK!!!!!!!!!!!

i feel sorry for teacher if this is what they put up with

woahwoah · 28/09/2010 22:57

And people wonder why some teachers find some parents difficult...

activate · 29/09/2010 06:09

We have a year 9 (14 year old) totally NT student who has spent much of her school career attempting to wander the corridors as she chooses to do what she wants.

Her parents back her, in fact she is the one in control and they do exactly what she says at all times.

We have gone to extraordinary measures to get this bright girl to engage with her education and her future, without parental support it is impossible.

She is heading for a permanent exclusion very soon unfortunately as it is untenable for her peers for her to have special dispensation.

Look into my crystal ball!

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 08:15

makemineatonic let me assure you that there is not a 1 size fits all approach in most schools.

piscesmoon · 29/09/2010 08:16

It would seem to me that Makemineaginandtonic has already had problems with a school and has moved her DC to one 'with a better attitude' and yet this has broken down, therefore I would be asking if the problem was actually DC and going into school and asking the teacher how they could address this together. I get the distinct impression that she is rather proud to have a 'free spirit' who would rather recite poetry than listen and learn.
I would be supporting my DC and helping her to get on with others. Are you not aware that other DCs will find her a pain in the neck? They are also sitting on the carpet and they get bored and fed up if a DC is stopping the teacher from getting on. DCs like fairness and they like to know that if someone is doing wrong it will be addressed.
It is such a trivial thing anyway-as a parent I would just state the obvious to her.'If you want to go out to play don't waste everyone's time'. If she really wants to recite poetry in front of the class (a lot do) tell her to ask the teacher at an appropriate time.
If you think that simple politeness and getting on with others is turning her into a zombie then I would seriously suggest HE.
You came on here to ask advice and because you don't agree with it you are being very patronising about Shakespeare quotes!
I would suggest that you get on the side of the school staff and not get a name for yourself. I know a class teacher who received a very patronising letter from a parent (along similar lines to yours) and it caused great mirth in the classroom! Teachers are human-they are doing the best for your child but they need some support.

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 08:27

makemineaginandtonic at what point do you stop baming the teachers and start looking at your DD? When she is 8, 9, 10? 15? You can only use her age for so long. If this school does not work what wil you do? Move again?

piscesmoon · 29/09/2010 08:28

Sorry -not in the classroom! I meant great mirth in the staffroom.

piscesmoon · 29/09/2010 08:30

I know one poor DC who was moved everytime the parent fell out with the school and eventually (year 6) he ended up back where he started! It included a short spell of HE but the parent quickly decided they were not cut out for it.