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"punishment" in year 1

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makemineaginandtonic · 28/09/2010 17:09

DD is not settling into Yr1 particularly well and especially dislikes "carpet time" because it's boring and her bum goes numb. Today she was talking (actually reciting a poem from a book she borrowed from school!) during carpet time and as a result was delayed going out to play time and had to spend extra time on the carpet.

I really don't agree with "punishments" such as this, especially when it is keeping her from a physical activity which might actually calm her down and make it easier to sit still!

What other experiences of "punishments" are out there?

should I talk to the teacher and tell her what I think?

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makemineaginandtonic · 28/09/2010 21:46

"me thinks the lady dost protest too much" is a line from Hamlet, which was written by Shakespeare. Not sure you've heard of him. Lucky you are only teaching little kids eh?!

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Goblinchild · 28/09/2010 21:46

signet, that's fantastic!
I felt the same way at a parents' evening when the PE teacher said he'd had to tell my Aspie off for messing around with his friend on the outskirts of the activity. I'd waited years for him to have a friend to mess around with.Grin

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:47

Um yes OP - I expect most of us have actually heard of that! I hope you are a wind up, otherwise you are just a patronising cow!

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:48

You're not BA doing one of your "experiments" are you?

ColdComfortFarm · 28/09/2010 21:49

oooh, back in the knife drawer miss I'm-not-bitter-and-my-child's-not-spoilt!

Hulababy · 28/09/2010 21:49

Yes we have some Shakespeare books - aimed at KS1 actually - in our Y1 classroom. I know. I took them in oncemy own DD finished with them.

OP - have you considered home ed?

booyhoo · 28/09/2010 21:49

this reminds me very much of the supersoaker thread.

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:51

Actually the quote is "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".

ColdComfortFarm · 28/09/2010 21:53

I thought it was 'the small girl doth recite AA Milne too much', or have I been reading the wrong version?

Goblinchild · 28/09/2010 21:53

Grin Oooh, Get You!
All snidy and joining in now.
We do a Shakespeare play every year in Y6, a number of teachers have a first degree in English.
Some of us from way back when you had to know the entire play rather than extracts.

Goblinchild · 28/09/2010 21:54

Still a classic though CCF.

loopyloops · 28/09/2010 21:55

OP, the question was related to its relevance I think, not where it came from.

Please just tell us now that a) this is a wind-up or b) you will HE in future.

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:55

I was wondering why I only got a "B" at English Lit! I thought it was because I was lazy. Now I realise it is because I am not SMUG enough! Grin

clemetteattlee · 28/09/2010 21:55

A cross-section of mothers from a range of social, economic and professional backgrounds have universally shared their experiences of having children in school to say that you might need to change your approach OP. Maybe you have got this one a bit wrong?
(Disclaimer, I am an ex-secondary school teacher who once had her car windows smashed in by someone whose mother said he was just "striggling to express himself". Your job is to help enforce boundaries, not undermine those who are trying to manage your DD's behaviour)

Algebra18MinusPiEquals16 · 28/09/2010 21:56

CCF :o

ColdComfortFarm · 28/09/2010 21:57

Portofino, if you had LISTENED more to five year olds, then you might have done better. Tsk.

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:58

It's because I wasn't allowed to "express myself" by reciting poetry on during carpet time! My life is in tatters!

Portofino · 28/09/2010 21:59

Actually a boy in my class did actually "express" something on the carpet once. He got the slipper, and is now a reformed character!

ColdComfortFarm · 28/09/2010 21:59

I'd sue if I were you. It's a bloody disgrace. No win, no fee!

scruffymuff · 28/09/2010 22:01

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!

The OP clearly does not have a clue what happens in a Y1 classroom. If every child that muttered under their breath during lesson was given a 2 minute slot to perform to the class- chaos would reign and the teacher would never teach anything!

Clearly the OP thinks her child is above the "boring" teacher.

Deluded- the child is obviously a PITA!

nobodyisasomebody · 28/09/2010 22:03

makemineaginandtonic Mon 23-Nov-09 15:58:29

My DD is 4 and started reception in September. She previously successfully attended play school and the nursery attached to the school and was always well behaved. However, now she won't sit on the carpet at quiet time. The teachers used a sad face on the board technique (I know this is contraversial) and it has now progressed to her having her own "smiley face" chart to be used throughout the day.
Neither seem to have had any effect.

I feel sorry for her that she has had to start school as one of the youngest in the class (july baby) and can't help thinking that surely it doesn't matter that, after 1 term at school, she is still finding it difficult to sit quietly for a long period of time. Now it seems the entire focus of going to school is the smiley face chart and "being good" rather than "naughty". THis seems entirely wrong for this stage of her education and I am worried it is going to put her off school forever and get her labelled as disruptive.

Has anyone else been through this or got any ideas of how to help her settle in?

makemineaginandtonic Tue 23-Feb-10 18:11:38

My daughter is exactly the same. She is a july baby and so also one of the youngest in her class. She finds it very difficult to sit still on the carpet and copies other disruptive children. She grins at the teacher when she gets told off! I find it hard to deal with too. One half of me is cross with my daughter for not toeing the line and the other half is horrified that they are trying to break her spirit at age 4.5!!

I have read a book called The Wildest Colts Make the Best Horses (even the title made me feel better!), and although it goes to extremes and is really about ADHD it has made me realise that my daughter is normal and that it is not necessarily normal to expect at 4 year to sit quietly!

It is tricky to deal with though if the school sees it as being a very negative thing. My daughter sits on a coloured spot which helps and other children are allowed to hold a toy to help them concentrate. Being allowed to perform a special task or play with a special toy if she does sit quietly works for her too. Maybe you could suggest them at your school.

I just make sure I let my daughter know that i love her and that as long as she is trying her best that is ok with me

makemineaginandtonic Tue 01-Dec-09 16:50:38

Well unexpectedly there is a place available at another nearby school, so I have decided to move DD. Deciding factor was on collection on Monday when the teacher described her behaviour during the day as "not perfect" within her earshot, despite having all smiley faces for the day apart from PE. I find their negative focus on small non academic misdemeanours quite worrying.

At the new school she will also have the option to do half days for another term due to being a summer baby. I think this suit her much better.

Thanks for all your comments

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cory · 28/09/2010 22:04

"me thinks the lady dost protest too much" is a line from Hamlet, which was written by Shakespeare."

Hardly. Shakespeare knew far too much English to use the second person of the verb with a third person subject. She doth protest. I do, thou dost, she doth. If you are going to patronise people with Shakespeare, you need to get your grammar right.

cory · 28/09/2010 22:05

Fwiw I am not a school teacher. But my nephew spent 3 years in primary school not learning anything and feeling his time was totally wasted because of three disruptive talkers whom the teacher failed to control. Noone could hear anything in lessons and it was impossible to concentrate. Ny nephew's family were furious and I don't blame them

Portofino · 28/09/2010 22:06

Shock!!!! I normally don't condone searching the boards but Shock. So OP, you never listened to anyone ever, did you?