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"punishment" in year 1

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makemineaginandtonic · 28/09/2010 17:09

DD is not settling into Yr1 particularly well and especially dislikes "carpet time" because it's boring and her bum goes numb. Today she was talking (actually reciting a poem from a book she borrowed from school!) during carpet time and as a result was delayed going out to play time and had to spend extra time on the carpet.

I really don't agree with "punishments" such as this, especially when it is keeping her from a physical activity which might actually calm her down and make it easier to sit still!

What other experiences of "punishments" are out there?

should I talk to the teacher and tell her what I think?

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QuickLookBusy · 29/09/2010 21:22

Can you all honestly say you are happy with the way this thread has gone?

If the answer is yes then fair enough, I am wrong, I will go away now!

Portofino · 29/09/2010 21:26

I'm happy with it yes. Totally sensible advice.

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 21:26

I am happy too.

QuickLookBusy · 29/09/2010 21:27

Portofino I am NOT the OP.

I have 2 DC aged 16 and 19. My 19 year old is off to uni this weekend. I might ask MN for advice on how to cope when DD is going off into world for the first time, but definitely not about her having a numb bum during carpet time!!

Loshad · 29/09/2010 21:27

go on then, shoo.
The vast majority of posters, most of whom ARE parents of children that age or older, are telling you that you are in the wrong, and that it would be more helpful to support the school in this. If you choose not to hear then that is your perogative, however please don't come crying back to mumsnet when your dd is in y7/8/9/10 and about to be excluded/is constantly in isolation/is likley to get few if any GCSE's

Portofino · 29/09/2010 21:28

And I speak not as judgemental MNer, but as mother of a 6 yo.

QuickLookBusy · 29/09/2010 21:31

Well great. Make mental note to self never to ask MN for advice when feeling upset about something, due to danger of a load nasty and unnecessary comments.

igitur · 29/09/2010 21:34

'School' is the only place in life you will find strict age grouping applied.
Artificial.
Teachers here seen very keen to validate it.
Most, repeat, just most teachers here seem inept.
Too ready to leap to insult if you ask me.
Speaks volumes.

Portofino · 29/09/2010 21:35

Shut the door on your way out.

mrz · 29/09/2010 21:37

igitur are you following the OP around because you made similar comments when her daughter had problems in reception ?

mrz · 29/09/2010 21:39

QuickLookBusy have you considered for a moment that the comments are necessary and justified?
Why do you send your child to school?
To learn or to sit around while another child disrupts the lesson...

igitur · 29/09/2010 21:42

mrz,
you are wrong, I did not make similar comments then.
Was not about then.
Disappointed in you to sink so low though... you sounded better.

QuickLookBusy · 29/09/2010 21:51

Well said Igitur.

mrz No I would never think that what the majority of people said to the OP was necessary and justified.

What a cruel world we live in if a worried and concerned mother of a young child, cant get some constuctive and compassionate advice.

But you all think you did give her constructive advice...Confused

Portofino · 29/09/2010 21:55

Plenty of constructive advice on this thread. If all you want is for people to be lovely and agree with you, then Netmums is ready and waiting.

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 21:56

igitur you say such contrevertial things to get a reaction. School teaches children about real adult life. You have a boss at work who you must answer to if you do wrong it is the same in school.

School does help towards giving you the skills that are vital for sevival in adult life.

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 21:58
  • I am using you as in you in general not you personally.
igitur · 29/09/2010 22:06

Like spelling matters... ? :)

igitur · 29/09/2010 22:09

& I now sink several levels with that response... :(

geraldinetheluckygoat · 29/09/2010 22:10

My opinion is the same as it was earlier when I read the thread Mrz, Smile

mrtumblewhereareyou · 29/09/2010 22:11

^ has a reason am dyslexic and spelling is not my thing. Especially with no spell check on MN

igitur · 29/09/2010 22:15

Yes, aplogise, spelling is no more the be & end all than 'carpet time'.

piscesmoon · 29/09/2010 22:21

I think that mrz gave very constructive advice, if anyone cared to listen to it. I have been most impressed by all her comments on early years education and I would be very happy to have my DC in her class.

I really don't understand why people post a question and then get upset if they don't get the answer they want!

OP asked 'should I talk to the teacher and tell her what I think?'
Most people have said that she shouldn't-just ask DD to learn the lesson and not miss any minutes next time.
As someone has alrady said, you could call it 'sweet' in a 5 yr old, but it isn't going to be at 8 yrs and it will be downright rude at 10 yrs. Help her to understand that other DCs have the right not to be disrupted and she will get on much better in the future.
By all means talk to the teacher and tell her what you think, but be prepared that she might not agree.

Quattrocento · 29/09/2010 22:24

I'm actually very worried by this thread and the OP. Prompted by other posters, I did a quick search and found another thread by the OP, which explained that her DD had transferred schools:

'makemineaginandtonic Tue 01-Dec-09 16:50:38
Well unexpectedly there is a place available at another nearby school, so I have decided to move DD. Deciding factor was on collection on Monday when the teacher described her behaviour during the day as "not perfect" within her earshot, despite having all smiley faces for the day apart from PE. I find their negative focus on small non academic misdemeanours quite worrying.'

So what I am seeing here are two patterns. I'm seeing a pattern of disruptive behaviour from the child. I'm also seeing a pattern of disruptive behaviour from the parent, who instead of supporting the teachers, is reinforcing the child's desire to believe that she has done nothing wrong and that the teachers are at fault.

And you know, what do these two patterns mean for that child's education? They mean that the child will not learn because she has been brought up not to respect either her teachers or the other pupils' right to learn. It's really worrying.

KnittingisbetterthanTherapy · 29/09/2010 22:25

"'School' is the only place in life you will find strict age grouping applied.
Artificial.
Teachers here seen very keen to validate it."

Whether strict age grouping should be adhered to is a completely different debate and not one we were discussing here. The issue here was the fact the behavioural codes have to be adhered to in a class of 30 or no learning would ever get done.

As for arguing that most teachers here are inept - really? Based on what evidence?

Portofino · 29/09/2010 22:28

Quattro, I think that post was already alluded to. Here you have a parent who will move their child at will to avoid negative comment. It IS scary!

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