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Prepping for a pandemic...7

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wheresmymojo · 26/02/2020 19:29

7th thread on prepping for a pandemic and following the risk of a COVID pandemic.

Anxiety

As Preppers we tend to look at a reasonable worst case scenario to plan for. Everyone is welcome on the thread but if you find it makes you anxious be kind to yourself and think about sticking to once daily updates from the BBC or similar Thanks

General COVID Info

The estimated replication rate is R= 2 to 4 based on latest expert estimates. This means each infected person spreads the virus to between 2 and 4 people. Experts estimate that, unchecked, it could infect 60% of the population.

Around 15-20% of cases are thought to be severe - that is resulting in the need for hospitalisation. Around 3-5% requiring ventilation.

The estimated mortality rate is around 1-2% at the moment (compared to 0.01-0.1% for flu). This may change as it is very difficult to estimate mortality.

Children tend to have milder symptoms. Those over 60 with underlying health issues and a history of smoking are more likely to be severe (although not exclusively this type of person).

Spread of COVID

It is estimated that the average incubation period is 3-5 days but can be as long as 24 days.

It can be spread with no symptoms.

It can be spread via droplet (cough/sneeze), aerosol (breathing same air in very close quarters), bodily fluids, fecal/oral route and formites (via surfaces, up to 28 days in the right circumstances but up to 3-5 days in more typical circumstances).

Updates

As this is a novel virus and knowledge is constantly being updated - I will post updates as they become available with links to source.

I am not a medical expert so any opinions or conjecture of my own should be taken with a pinch of salt!

Prepping Scenarios

Most of us are prepping for the following situations:

  • Wanting to stay indoors for 2-4 weeks + in case of a local outbreak / schools being closed
  • Potentially being ill with a flu type illness lasting 2-3 weeks with one or more of the household having the illness
  • Having to take a family member to hospital for COVID or any other reason during an outbreak

Prepping Items

Threads 1&2 have lists of things to think about to prep for the first scenario as do the Brexit prepping threads.

Main differences/additions to something like the Brexit list are:

  • Face masks if you can get them for any trips you have to make in public during an outbreak. These don't offer full protection and cannot be 100% relied upon but are probably better than nothing if you make sure you wear them correctly and dispose of them correctly. N95 masks are best but expensive and harder to wear, surgical face masks are second best. Dust masks are not going to help.
  • Hand sanitiser needs to be 60% or more alcohol content
  • Dettol / bleach / Miltons to disinfect. Not all disinfectants work but these three do
  • Plenty of at home/over counter treatments for flu type symptoms should you need to treat at home
  • Tissues (lots of) should you catch the virus
  • Think about meals that are easy to cook and eat should you be ill or both parents be ill at the same time (soup for example)
  • For a potential hospital trip you may want to prep a 'go bag' should you need to take someone to hospital with the virus (or anything else) during an outbreak. See Thread 1&2 for examples of what people are packing
  • Frequent and thorough hand washing, not touching your face and social distancing (no handshakes, hugs, etc) are some of the most effective ways to stay virus free

Other Thoughts

India have announced that they are stopping exports of some antibiotics, hormone treatments and vitamin supplements as they rely on China for raw materials.

Many factories that supplied fibre for use in sanitary towels and tampons are being diverted to manufacture face masks. Consider stocking up or changing to sustainable items (cloth STs, mooncup, period pants)

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ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:09

Hokkaido in northern Japan declares state of emergency due to coronavirus, urges people to stay at home this weekend - NHK

WitchDoc · 28/02/2020 09:16

Pantry, fridge & freezer wise we're stocked to the rafters & yesterday I shopped for meals for the weekend but am debating doing a treat shop for moral boosting purposes if we end up locked down, concentrating of things with a long shelf life like Peperamis.

With more confirmed cases in this country, news of the stock markets going mainstream coupled with it being around payday for many, I think we'll start to see a bit of panic buying this weekend.

FourTeaFallOut · 28/02/2020 09:18

South Korea only has 10 severe/ critical patients from the 2000+ confirmed. Whereas Italy has 56 from 665. Are we just seeing the difference between figures when it hits a hospital first or has Italy been brewing this outbreak for much longer or is there some disparity with how countries decide upon serious or critical illness?

MoonlightMistletoe · 28/02/2020 09:21

I'm sick of people still saying "oh it's just scaremongering" Hmm

There are baskets of big hand gels in Superdrug and boots, in my area right in the doorway as you walk into the shop. Worth looking there if you haven't already although I know not all branches are the same.

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:31

Switzerland bans all events with more than 1,000 people to prevent the spread of coronavirus

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:32

NEW: Another Diamond Princess cruise ship passenger, a 70-year-old woman, dies after being infected with coronavirus, raising ship's death toll to 5 - NHK t.co/eUoE2b20hL

EliK · 28/02/2020 09:33

Doing a small shop to replace some frozen stuff and treats we've eaten.

Definitely noticing other people stocking up now.

lemonjumper · 28/02/2020 09:38

First case in Wales www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51673068

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:40

Wales reports first case of coronavirus t.co/eUoE2b20hL

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:42

Update on #coronavirus:

Two further patients in England have tested positive for #COVID19, bringing the total number of cases in England to 17.

Following confirmed cases in Northern Ireland and Wales, the total number of UK cases is 19.

▶️t.co/oN7CSnsr8Q t.co/Bs9hcUZMUQ

Givemeabreakpls · 28/02/2020 09:43

Just seen Jeremy Hunt has given another non-committal answer re. CV measures...what is with all this sitting on the fence over the UKs planned response? It’s undoubtedly here and a line needs to be taken.

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:50

Recovered coronavirus patients found not to be infectious - official

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN20M0XX?__twitter_impression=true

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:55

The S*n are saying the Wales case is Swansea

MyPartInHistory · 28/02/2020 09:55

ofwarren - that is a bit of good news, if true. I hope that it is, and also that those who recover have some sort of immunity.

MrsPlesWearsAFez · 28/02/2020 09:57

Going back to the pets thing - there was an article in the Guardian(?!) a few weeks ago about a gentleman that had volunteered to go to various houses and check on/feed the pets of those who had been taken into quarantine in Wuhan.

He was going out daily, on an entirely voluntary basis, and at times was finding that he'd arrived too late to be of any help.

If you think of the sheer number of people put into quarantine in the fever hospitals etc, it has to have lead to a lot of animals being left behind for a significant amount of time.

I think it would be entirely plausible that mass euthanasia was happening, sadly Sad

Balkinfly · 28/02/2020 09:58

But where in Northern Italy?

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 09:58

Amsterdam reports first case of coronavirus, second case in the Netherlands t.co/eUoE2b20hL

WitchDoc · 28/02/2020 10:00

Following confirmed cases in Northern Ireland and Wales, the total number of UK cases is 19.

81 more cases & the UK stop testing

ViolaTricolora · 28/02/2020 10:00

Germany: two new cases, unrelated to the old ones. Bringing the total of confirmed cases to 48. 15 of the 16 old cases are declared healthy again.

The Netherlands: second case confirmed in Diemen, near Amsterdam. Also, the first person celebrated carnaval according to local media. I hope traving is going to make a difference

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 10:01

What do you mean @Witchdoc? They stop testing when there is 100? Why?

WitchDoc · 28/02/2020 10:05

@ofwarren

Yes. I've read that the NHS will stop testing for Covid-19 once confirmed cases reach 100.

Will try and find a link

ofwarren · 28/02/2020 10:09

That's terrifying @WitchDoc! Me and my ill son are going to be stuck at home for a long time I think.

ViolaTricolora · 28/02/2020 10:09

Tracking, not traving

Dennisreynoldsduster · 28/02/2020 10:10

Well I’m done.
I can’t fit anything more in my freezer. Both fridges are packed. The conservatory secret bench is stuffed with tins. The under the stairs cupboard is packed with all our long life stuff.
I will probably pick up a few treats though as I seem to eat them as soon as they arrive in the house 😁
Little DS is really suffering with wind and eczema at the moment so I’m relieved not to have to go out and we are just going to chill and watch Netflix today. Will probably stay away from the news for a day or two as my anxiety has really ramped up and, now I’m prepped, not a lot I can do about it

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