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Does my expartner have a right to our unborn child?

125 replies

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:30

I moved out of my ex partners house when his parents physically assulted me. Since then ive been homeless with our toddler and now found out im pregnant. We've tried to make it work but he keeps defending his parents and think they have done no wrong.

I've told him to leave me alone, I want to continue this pregnancy in peace. Does he have a right to me or the child as of now? When the child is born will he have a right? How do i navigate this.

OP posts:
Merryoldgoat · 09/07/2024 23:21

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 22:02

Okay thanks everyone, i've got all the answers to what I need to know.

I will be getting in contact with an abortion clinic first thing. I'll be damned if I have another child with a man who hits me and his parents that attack me.

Good luck @Mistydaym

I think it sounds like you’re making a sensible decision.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:24

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:45

@BigTroubleinSmallBoots we arent married. So if i dont put him on the birth certificate does that affect his rights?

Yes don't it him
On it

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:24

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:49

@Kitkat1523 he has been physically abusive to me before and SS have been in contact. Will that not mean anything?

Of course it will!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:26

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:58

@Allthegoodnamesaregone1 didn't want to have to get rid of the pregnancy but seems I have no choice. Just a lovely parting gift he left me with

I would ask Marie stopes if you can speak to a counsellor to work out what to do

Kitkat1523 · 09/07/2024 23:26

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:24

Of course it will!

not When it comes to PR it won’t

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:27

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 09/07/2024 22:07

Does he know about the pregnancy? I would perhaps not say it was your choice but just that you lost the baby as he might use the information against you later when your toddler is older and your child might not understand the predicament you are in.

Good advice

Merryoldgoat · 09/07/2024 23:30

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:24

Of course it will!

You don’t have much experience of family court I’m guessing?

MaidOfAle · 09/07/2024 23:34

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:45

@BigTroubleinSmallBoots we arent married. So if i dont put him on the birth certificate does that affect his rights?

He could go to apply for parental responsibility if he suspects that the child is his.

You have my sympathy as this is an awful position to be in.

Catoo · 09/07/2024 23:42

I’m sorry you’re in this position OP. Well done for leaving.

You must report the assault by his parents. This will all help SS build a picture.

If he doesn’t know about the pregnancy never tell him. It will be an excuse for his family to abuse you further.

💐

Saytheyhear · 09/07/2024 23:49

I'm so sorry you and your children are in this situation. It must be extremely frightening to realise that the risk to your child being exposed to being assaulted (like you were) by your partner's parents is not reduced by you separating.

The courts favour often favour getting 50/50 contact regardless of the crimes committed by either adult.

There are exceptions to the rules. You state there is previous involvement with social care. They can support your children with supervised contact with dad which would mean they can stop grandparents having access during this time.

But the aim of it is often to have full contact without supervision unless you can get some advice to put guidance and rules in place. Go to citizens advice and get all the free advice you can.

Avie29 · 09/07/2024 23:56

Ok so if you don’t put him on the birth certificate he has no parental rights or responsibilities, he will have to fight to A) prove the child is his and B) then go through the courts to get PR, and i doubt he will do either as he sounds like a complete douche, i never put my eldests dad on her birth certificate (she has my last name too) as he was violent towards me during my pregnancy, police involvement, solicitors were involved before she was even born, he threatened many times to take me to court n i just sat back n waited- he never did, she doesn’t see him anymore, hasn’t for nearly 2 years now (she is 13) i allowed him to see her only for her sake so she could know who her dad was, she eventually saw for herself what a twat he was and decided to cut ties with him herself xx

Shakingitoff · 10/07/2024 00:04

SonicTheHodgeheg · 09/07/2024 21:39

Once the baby is born, he will have the right to take you to court for contact. It won’t be overnights for a few months but he could insist on 50/50 contact with your toddler. (I assume “our toddler” means he is the dad) You can’t prevent your ILs from seeing either child as dad will be allowed to take the kids to see his parents during his time.

This isn’t true with respect to the GPs, GPs do not have rights to see their DGC. OP, you are a victim of domestic abuse - domestic abuse doesn’t have to from a partner and can be from any family member including in-laws. Please contact a domestic abuse charity such as Women’s aid. They can give you advice on your rights and entitlements.

savethatkitty · 10/07/2024 00:08

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:30

I moved out of my ex partners house when his parents physically assulted me. Since then ive been homeless with our toddler and now found out im pregnant. We've tried to make it work but he keeps defending his parents and think they have done no wrong.

I've told him to leave me alone, I want to continue this pregnancy in peace. Does he have a right to me or the child as of now? When the child is born will he have a right? How do i navigate this.

Sweetie, given you are homeless with a toddler, aborting seems like the ONLY choice (sorry).

Hellotoyousir · 10/07/2024 00:12

Please fight for your child. The father is an irrelevance. I know someone who had a violent ex partner and he just has no rights. Don't get rid of the child because of what might happen.

Ladyj84 · 10/07/2024 00:13

This whole post is so wrong. So wait you have a child with him and then decide to have another to then almost come across as using it to get at him by aborting. Sorry could have read wrongly but you made another baby knowing you weren't supposedly in a good situation, in that case take responsibility for your actions stop keep dangling the abort like it's a right. I have no issues with this should it be used in the right way for the right reasons but can't agree with this post

kittybiscuits · 10/07/2024 00:13

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 09/07/2024 21:56

Not necessarily.
An allegation between adults does not mean the child is in danger.
Especially with no police evidence/ court involvement.

Honestly OP it sounds like abortion may be the nest for all parties.

Assaulting an adult in front of their child is a serious safeguarding issue. Unfortunately the family courts do not pay much attention to safeguarding children - it's a shitshow and laughable to say the court centres the needs of the child.

Please take some legal advice OP, maybe via a domestic abuse organisation. You need to be able to disclose the full circumstances and have proper advice on which to base your decision about the pregnancy.

You don't have to answer, of course, but I'm wondering if the pregnancy was a result of consensual sex.

Allthegoodnamesaregone1 · 10/07/2024 00:14

kittybiscuits · 10/07/2024 00:13

Assaulting an adult in front of their child is a serious safeguarding issue. Unfortunately the family courts do not pay much attention to safeguarding children - it's a shitshow and laughable to say the court centres the needs of the child.

Please take some legal advice OP, maybe via a domestic abuse organisation. You need to be able to disclose the full circumstances and have proper advice on which to base your decision about the pregnancy.

You don't have to answer, of course, but I'm wondering if the pregnancy was a result of consensual sex.

Yea...so what I said then.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 10/07/2024 00:16

It gives me the rage reading about violent or deadbeat men having the right to interfere in the life of a child simply because they provided the sperm.
One of my relatives had to hand her toddler over to his frightening father every week; though she tried to keep things calm, the enforced visits were traumatic for her and the little boy.

We’re told it’s the child's right, but it looks to me more like ownership by the man.

Best of luck, OP. And do report the assault to the police. That may be helpful to you in limiting the family’s access.

ilovesushi · 10/07/2024 00:17

I can't help with your legal advice question, but I just wanted to say I am so sorry about your horrible experience with your partner's parents, and that you are now in this difficult situation. I hope you have got someone in real life you can talk to and who can help you out. I hope you are safe. x

bagginsatbagend · 10/07/2024 01:29

Even if he’s not on the birth certificate he can apply for parental responsibility so yes, he does have rights to the child. I guess you really need to think about having him in your life/in your child’s life & if that’s going to be worth keeping the baby or not. Do you think he would push for parental responsibility?

bagginsatbagend · 10/07/2024 01:31

Mistydaym · 09/07/2024 21:49

@Kitkat1523 he has been physically abusive to me before and SS have been in contact. Will that not mean anything?

No unfortunately it won’t mean much. It’ll just mean that someone else has to be the handover contact. My niece is literally going through the same thing with SS involved due to DV & now my sister has to do the handovers instead but he’s allowed unsupervised contact with the baby

bagginsatbagend · 10/07/2024 01:35

Theunamedcat · 09/07/2024 22:41

Get advice professional advice if he has abused you and social services are involved they might help you flee

Unfortunately they won’t, my niece is going through the same thing. Her now ex boyfriend beat her when pregnant (broke her arm) then put her in hospital again with a broken jaw. SS still allowed him unsupervised contact with the baby, the only stipulation was that handover had to be another person so he couldn’t have contact with my niece. So now my poor sister has to hand her grandson over to this monster every weekend & can’t do anything about it unless he hurts the baby

bagginsatbagend · 10/07/2024 01:38

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/07/2024 23:24

Of course it will!

It won’t make any difference. My niece has been dealing with the same thing, he’s beaten her severely on several occasions, all documented by SS. He’s broken her arm & her jaw & still he’s allowed unsupervised access. The only stipulation they’ve put in place is that my niece can’t do the handover so my sister has to handover her grandson to this monster every weekend & there’s nothing they can do about it

Codlingmoths · 10/07/2024 01:39

I’m sorry you’re in this situation. Have you accessed any services for shelter and housing? So you and your toddler have somewhere to live? There are lots of very knowledgeable posters who might be able to suggest where to go. Especially since you’ll be recovering from an abortion, or pregnant if you change your mind.

bagginsatbagend · 10/07/2024 01:40

Hellotoyousir · 10/07/2024 00:12

Please fight for your child. The father is an irrelevance. I know someone who had a violent ex partner and he just has no rights. Don't get rid of the child because of what might happen.

That’s very rare, in every case I know of including my niece currently DV makes no difference to SS when it comes to the father having access. The only thing they’ve put in place is that my niece can’t do the handover, my sister has to do it instead. And this man has beaten her on so many occasions including breaking her arm when pregnant & breaking her jaw just days after she gave birth